SportsLogos.Net News Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 MLS: Our Similar Logo is Just a Coincidence June 26, 2018 - 17:21 PMRecently, Major League Soccer unveiled the uniforms they’ll be wearing for their 2018 MLS All-Star Game which will be played in Atlanta on August 1st. There wasn’t much to the uniforms, a simple white top with a gigantic TARGET department […] Read More... Sports Logo and Uniform news, rumours, and history at SportsLogos.Net News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxColonels Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I think if it were just the use of a maple leaf and star, it could be deemed as "coincidence." However, given the manner and style in which the two elements were combined, I think it HAS to be taken as much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, GeauxColonels said: I think if it were just the use of a maple leaf and star, it could be deemed as "coincidence." However, given the manner and style in which the two elements were combined, I think it HAS to be taken as much more than that. I disagree. MLS has been running with the diagonal slash design across all platforms since 2014, before the CCSLC re-brand. It's not like combining a star and maple leaf is terribly novel, either. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Foot Work Will Injury You ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 As if the faux-European nonsense isn't bad enough, now they're appropriating Canadian design culture. SMH. Fan Style ShirtsShowcasing fan-made sports apparel by artists and designers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Gothamite said: I disagree. MLS has been running with the diagonal slash design across all platforms since 2014, before the CCSLC re-brand. It's not like combining a star and maple leaf is terribly novel, either. MLS's slashes have never "slashed" through any distinguishable shapes in the middle of the shield/circe, though. Usually every thing was above the slash. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenaciousG Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, SportsLogos.Net News said: MLS: Our Similar Logo is Just a Coincidence June 26, 2018 - 17:21 PM Recently, Major League Soccer unveiled the uniforms they’ll be wearing for their 2018 MLS All-Star Game which will be played in Atlanta on August 1st. There wasn’t much to the uniforms, a simple white top with a gigantic TARGET department […] Read More... Font is almost the same, and the points of the star and maple leaf are at nearly the exact same angles and proportions. Yeah, they ripped it off. Wouldn’t expect anything less from a league that’s essentially a pyramid scheme. They’ll announce expansion teams to Sheboygan, Anchorage and Albuquerque soon. Oh, and move an original franchise to Austin. My teamsNCAA: Washington StateMLB: Seattle MarinersNFL: Seattle SeahawksNBA: Portland TrailblazersEPL: Liverpool FCMLS: Seattle Sounders FCNHL: Pittsburgh Penguins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, WSU151 said: MLS's slashes have never "slashed" through any distinguishable shapes in the middle of the shield/circe, though. Usually every thing was above the slash. Shapes, maybe. But they slash through graphics all the time. They do use a slash to divide patterned backgrounds. That diagonal slash has been their signature thing since well before the CCSLC logo was unveiled. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 MLS invented URLs ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigers Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 That's some bad thieving right there. Reads sig again just to see if it's ok. Logano wins BOWL before Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I'd consider a lawsuit, might be worth settling for some monetary option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Hell, if you're going to settle, then get the rights to the other logo. It's a distinct improvement. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I like how if you are big enough, and have enough money, you can say "it's just a coincidence" and all is ok. Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingGoldenDevil Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, hawk36 said: I like how if you are big enough, and have enough money, you can say "it's just a coincidence" and all is ok. That's true. If the roles were reversed Chris would have been sued in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavePunter Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 To be fair, it's a different maple leaf, there's really only one way to draw a star, and if you're going to combine them, there aren't many options.. Plus, the particular maple leaf they chose as well as the star are common symbols for the two countries represented by the MLS, so it makes sense to choose those specific versions, rather than a random, modern maple leaf shape like the CCSLC logo.. What else could they have done (assuming they came up with this idea organically)? They certainly couldn't use the bottom of the maple leaf.. That wouldn't be very distinctive, and would just look silly.. Theirs doesn't have the random extra angles that don't belong to either shape, so I can truly believe that they may have actually come up with this on their own, rather than ripping off another logo.. Although, the with the obvious similarities I certainly wouldn't be shocked to learn they got some "inspiration" from the CCSLC logo.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Yeah, I’ve been pretty aggressive with stolen work, but not sure this one rises to that level. For all the reasons you mention. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigers Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Gothamite said: Yeah, I’ve been pretty aggressive with stolen work, but not sure this one rises to that level. For all the reasons you mention. If a Beaver can sue a Crocodile for basically being similar then for the life of me how can the mls copy be any different? Logano wins BOWL before Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 3 hours ago, WavePunter said: To be fair, it's a different maple leaf, there's really only one way to draw a star, and if you're going to combine them, there aren't many options.. Plus, the particular maple leaf they chose as well as the star are common symbols for the two countries represented by the MLS, so it makes sense to choose those specific versions, rather than a random, modern maple leaf shape like the CCSLC logo.. What else could they have done (assuming they came up with this idea organically)? They certainly couldn't use the bottom of the maple leaf.. That wouldn't be very distinctive, and would just look silly.. Theirs doesn't have the random extra angles that don't belong to either shape, so I can truly believe that they may have actually come up with this on their own, rather than ripping off another logo.. Although, the with the obvious similarities I certainly wouldn't be shocked to learn they got some "inspiration" from the CCSLC logo.. It comes down too if one could be confused for the other and I would say that logo fits that criteria very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 5:33 PM, Gothamite said: Shapes, maybe. But they slash through graphics all the time. They do use a slash to divide patterned backgrounds. That diagonal slash has been their signature thing since well before the CCSLC logo was unveiled. After the Buc-ee’s case, if Chris did sue, MLS would probably end up owning diagonal slashes through anything. Is this just for their all-star game? If it’s a one-off, I would ignore it. If MLS were going to use it going forward like the flag patch on NFL helmets, I’d definitely try to get them to stop. In that situation, it would eventually put CCSLC in the bad spot of looking like they were the ones copying. Actually, I would probably have a lawyer send them a C&D letter no matter what... then they can’t bring it back in five years and claim Chris didn’t have a problem with it back in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavePunter Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 15 hours ago, dont care said: It comes down too if one could be confused for the other and I would say that logo fits that criteria very well. The legality of copyright or trademark infringement comes down to that, yes.. But the accusation of blatantly "ripping off a logo" does not come down to that at all.. They could be perfectly innocent, and still ordered to C&D due to CCSLC's IP regarding the logo, but that doesn't mean MLS ripped it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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