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8 hours ago, Brian in Boston said:

The Massachusetts Interscholastic Athletic Association (MIAA) Football State Championship pairings are set. The games will be played at Gillette Stadium on Friday, November 30th (Divisions 2 and 4) and Saturday, December 1st (Divisions 1, 3, 5, 6, 7 and 8).  

Seeing some of those times; how on earth do they expect to play a football game on the two hour turnaround?

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3 hours ago, willmorris said:

Seeing some of those times; how on earth do they expect to play a football game on the two hour turnaround?

I didn't know this, but Massachusetts plays with 10 minute quarters for their finals to get them all in on one day.

 

For years, though, Minnesota somehow managed to play 12 state semifinals at the Metrodome in just two days. Regular timing rules, but the officials knew to keep the game moving. Limited timeouts. And a 5-minute turnaround between final whistle and the next kickoff. Teams warmed up under the stadium and teams celebrated under after the very quick trophy presentation.


Start at 930 and be done before midnight with 6 full games.

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Seeing some of those times; how on earth do they expect to play a football game on the two hour turnaround?

 

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I didn't know this, but Massachusetts plays with 10 minute quarters for their finals to get them all in on one day.


The Massachusetts Interscholastic Athletic Association (MIAA) currently follows the NCAA's football rulebook, but quarters are 12 minutes long (as opposed to 15 minutes)... at least during regular-season games.

 

For post-season play, the MIAA has mandated 11-minute quarters in playoff sectional tournament games and semi-finals, as well as 10-minute quarters in the championship finals. Additionally, teams are only allotted 3 timeouts per half in the championship games, rather than 5 timeouts per half during the sectional and semi-final games.

On a related note, beginning with the 2019-2020 academic year, the MIAA will be adjusting all sports rulebooks to comply with guidelines set down by the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS). Currently, Massachusetts adheres to NCAA rules for football (along with Texas) and girls' volleyball (along with non-parochial schools in New York). As for baseball, high school officials, coaches, and players in Massachusetts currently work with a mix of rules from the NFHS, NCAA, and MLB rulebooks. That ends with the beginning of competition next fall.         

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Huh...TIL that somewhere, teams have five timeouts.

Kinda amazed at the rapid turnaround between Minny games.  Given we only play 7 games over two days (four on the first day, three on the second), there's an hour between each game. 

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Can confirm, we play 12 minute quarters here too.  Not sure what mercy rules are used elsewhere, ours was that if one team was up by a certain amount in the second half, the clock ran continuously, which I remember happened to my team one time in Kenosha (the other not able memory I have of that game was that aside from halftime, I never saw the sideline)

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12 is NFHS standard. And Texas, which follows NCAA, still has 12 minute quarters.

 

As for Minnesota, the turnaround is for the semifinals. Back when it was six classes. Now, with 7 classes, they play over three days. But, with six classes, they played the semifinals over two days. Which meant six games a day.

 

For the finals, there's only 7 games, which isn't the issue.

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12 hours ago, Discrimihater said:

Can confirm, we play 12 minute quarters here too.  Not sure what mercy rules are used elsewhere, ours was that if one team was up by a certain amount in the second half, the clock ran continuously, which I remember happened to my team one time in Kenosha (the other not able memory I have of that game was that aside from halftime, I never saw the sideline)

In Maryland the mercy rule goes into effect when a team is up by 35 points. Doesn't matter what quarter it is. I've been part of teams that were down 35 points in the first half smh

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8 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

In Maryland the mercy rule goes into effect when a team is up by 35 points. Doesn't matter what quarter it is. I've been part of teams that were down 35 points in the first half smh

NJ mercies on 35 point margin in the second half.

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PA is 35 points after halftime. Ohio is 30 points (NFHS stated minimum) after halftime. West Virginia is 35 points after the 3rd.

 

South Dakota and New Mexico are 50. And the game ends automatically after halftime if 50 or more margin (except, at least, SD state title games).

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The matchups are set for the Maryland State Finals. All championship games are played at Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium at the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis.

  • 1A: Fort Hill vs Frederick Douglass 12/1 3:30pm
  • 2A: Glenelg vs Oakdale 12/1 7pm
  • 3A: Linganore vs Franklin 11/29 7pm
  • 4A: North Point vs Quince Orchard 11/30 7:30pm

 

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Rainier is the Oregon 3A state champions after literally running over Cascade Christian 44-14 in the title game. It's the first state title for Rainier since 2010.

 

Over in Washington, Kalama defeated Toledo in the 2B semifinals to advance to the state championship game for a chance to defend their state title. In 1B, Naselle ran into a buzz saw in Almira-Coulee-Hartline as the Warriors routed them 82-28.

 

The stage is now set for next weekend at the Tacoma Dome for the state championships...

 

Friday, November 30th

 -2B Championship: Kalama vs. Napavine (Regional rivals meet for the championship. The two teams met in Week 2 with the Chinooks winning 20-13)

 -3A Championship: O'Dea vs. Eastside Catholic (Two regional rivals meet for the championship. Eastside Catholic rolled past them in the first meeting)

 

Saturday, December 1st

 -1A Championship: Newport vs. Colville (A battle of Cinderellas in this game. Colville did the impossible and knocked off Royal, a team that hasn't lost since 2014, to get here)

 -2A Championship: Lynden vs. Hockinson (Regional powerhouse Hockinson goes for the repeat against the Lions of Lynden)

 -1B Championship: Almira-Coulee-Hartline vs. Odessa (Two east side powers face off as the unstoppable force [ACH's offense, which has averaged 91 PPG in the postseason] takes on the immovable object [Odessa's defense, which has given up only 14 points altogether in the postseason])

 -4A Championship: Lake Stevens vs. Union (Another regional power appears as the Titans go for the state title against fellow unbeaten Lake Stevens)

 

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With the results of traditional Thanksgiving football games in the books, here is how the Massachusetts Interscholastic Athletic Association (MIAA) Football State Championship match-ups shake out. The games will be played at Gillette Stadium on Friday, November 30th (Divisions 2 and 4) and Saturday, December 1st (Divisions 1, 3, 5, 6, 7 and 8).

 

Division 1 - 8:00 PM on 12/1/18
St. John's Preparatory School Eagles (9-2) vs. Catholic Memorial School Knights (9-2)
The Eagles and Knights will enter the Division 1 Super Bowl with identical records. While St. John's Prep dropped its Thanksgiving Eve rivalry game with Xaverian Brothers High School 14-12, Catholic Memorial pounded Boston College High School 37-15 on Thanksgiving Day.

Division 2 - 7:30 PM on 11/30/18
North Andover High School Scarlet Knights (11-0) vs. King Philip Regional High School Warriors (9-2)
The Scarlet Knights will head to the Division 2 Super Bowl with a perfect record following their 41-27 Thanksgiving victory over Andover High School. Meanwhile, King Philip Regional will also enter the title game on a high, having downed Franklin High School 23-16 in their Turkey tilt.

Division 3 - 6:00 PM on 12/1/18
Central High School (Springfield) Golden Eagles (10-1) vs. Tewksbury Memorial High School Redmen (11-1)

While Central High School was idle on Thanksgiving, Tewksbury Memorial warmed-up for the Division 3 Super Bowl by blanking Wilmington High School 43-0.

Division 4 - 5:00 PM on 11/30/18
Nashoba Regional High School 
Chieftains (11-1) vs. Dighton-Rehoboth Regional High School Falcons (9-2)
The Chieftains and Falcons both prepared for the Division 4 Super Bowl with convincing shut-out victories over their Thanksgiving opponents. Nashoba Regional bested Clinton 21-0, while Dighton-Rehoboth dusted Seekonk 33-0.


Division 5 - 1:30 PM on 12/1/18
Scituate High School Sailors (11-1) vs. Nipmuc Regional High School Warriors (10-1)

The Sailors enter the Division 5 Super Bowl off of a hard-fought 28-26 Thanksgiving Day victory over Hingham that saw Scituate's starters play the entire first half and - blessedly - emerge injury-free for the upcoming title tilt. That's especially fortunate given that Scituate's opponent in the championship game, Nipmuc Regional, elected to cancel its annual Turkey Day clash with Blackstone Valley Regional Voc-Tech - itself, scheduled to play in the Division 7 Super Bowl.

Division 6 - 3:30 PM on 12/1/18
Stoneham High School Spartans (11-1) vs. Old Rochester Regional High School Bulldogs (11-0)
Stoneham lost the chance to enter the Division 6 Super Bowl with an unblemished record, falling 28-26 to Reading in overtime on Thanksgiving Day. Meanwhile, Old Rochester Regional will carry a perfect mark into the championship game, as the Bulldogs easily dispatched Apponequet Regional 35-14.

Division 7 - 11:00 AM on 12/1/18
Blackstone Valley Regional Vocational Technical High School Beavers (10-1) vs. St. Mary's High School Spartans (8-4)
As mentioned earlier, Blackstone Valley Regional Voc-Tech arranged to cancel its Thanksgiving match-up with Nipmuc Regional. Both schools - located across the street from one another in Mendon, Massachusetts - cited the unacceptable conditions of their playing fields, the extreme cold temperatures that were being forecast for game time, and the potential toll that a game played under such conditions would take on a pair of teams preparing for state championship contests. As for St. Mary's, the Spartans will have to do their best to prepare for the Division 7 Super Bowl while shaking off any lingering after-effects from a 60-0 Thanksgiving drubbing at the hands of Bishop Fenwick.

Division 8 - 9:00 AM on 12/1/18
St. Bernard's Central Catholic High School Bernardians (11-1) vs. Pope John XXIII High School Tigers (12-0)

The Division 8 Super Bowl will feature a pair of parochial school squads that enter the clash coming off of comfortable wins. The Bernardians downed North Middlesex Regional 36-15, while the Tigers added to a thus-far perfect campaign by blanking the Matignon/Saint Joseph Prep co-op football team 26-0. 
 

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Has Massachusetts always played all the championship games at one site on the same day like that? With 8 divisions you would think the state would go with multiple sites.

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2 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

Has Massachusetts always played all the championship games at one site on the same day like that? With 8 divisions you would think the state would go with multiple sites.

Most states have one site but break the games up over the entire weekend. Ohio has games on a Friday and Saturday at Fawcett Stadium (Benson Field) this year. Texas will break up games over two weekends. They also host the Six Man football championship in Arlington. Six Man and Division II championships are the weekend of December 14th, all other divisions are the following weekend.

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3 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

Has Massachusetts always played all the championship games at one site on the same day like that? With 8 divisions you would think the state would go with multiple sites.

 

No. While an effort has always been made to play the Massachusetts high school football Super Bowl championship games at as few sites as possible in any given year, for a significant portion of their history it was the norm for them to be played at multiple locations. This was a by-product of the fact that it wasn't until five years ago that single, statewide champions were crowned in each division. For many years, the Eastern Massachusetts Super Bowl would be held at a facility such as Boston University's Nickerson Field, Boston College's Alumni Stadium, or the New England Patriots' Foxboro Stadium. Meanwhile, the Central Massachusetts Super Bowl would be contested at Worcester Polytechnic Institute's Alumni Stadium,  Fitton Field at Holy Cross, or even a large high school stadium. And the Western Massachusetts Super Bowl might take place at Benedum Field - now, Stagg Field - on the campus of Springfield College.

That's not the only thing that's changed with regard to the staging of the Massachusetts high school football championships. For 41 of the soon-to-be 47 years in which the Massachusetts Super Bowls have been contested, there were no playoffs to determine which two teams would advance to the championship game. Rather, a formula (based upon strength-of-schedule, quality-wins, etc.) was used to determine who the two highest-rated schools were in each division of each geographic region of the state. Once said schools were determined, they were scheduled to play in their particular divisional/regional Super Bowl.

 

That changed in 2013, the year in which the MIAA introduced a playoff system to Massachusetts high school football competition. Now, a formula determines the fields for the Eastern Massachusetts North Section football playoffs and Eastern Massachusetts South Section football playoffs. The same formula determines fields for the Central Massachusetts Section football playoffs and Western Massachusetts Section football playoffs. Once the Division champions have been crowned from each section, further playoff seeding takes place. By and large, by the end of the process, the Eastern Massachusetts North and South Section champs ultimately end up facing one another with a trip to the statewide divisional Super Bowls on the line, while the same holds true for Central and Western Section football playoff champs.

As for how the history of crowning of Massachusetts high school football champions has progressed, here's the evolution of the process:  

1972 through 1977 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Massachusetts, with Eastern Massachusetts and Central/Western Massachusetts champions being crowned each year. Division 1, 2, 3 and 4 championships were held in Eastern Massachusetts, with Division 1, 2 and 3 championships held in Central/Western Massachusetts.

1978 and 1979 - High school football championship games were contested in three separate regions: Eastern Massachusetts, Central Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 2, 3 and 4. Central Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1 and 2.

1980 through 1982 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts, Central Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Central Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1 and 2.

1983 through 1990 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts, Central Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Central Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 2 and 3. Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1 and 2.

1991 through 1996 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts, Central Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3B, 4A, 4B, 5A, 5B, 6A and 6B. Central Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 2 and 3. Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1 and 2.

1997 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts and Central/Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3B, 4A, 4B, 5A, 5B, 6A and 6B. Central/Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3 and 3A.

1998 through 2000 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts and Central/Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 2C, 3A, 3B, 4A, 4B, 5A, 5B, 6A and 6B. Central/Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3 and 3A.

2001 through 2003 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts and Central/Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7. Central/Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3 and 3A.

 

2004 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts and Central/Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3, 3A and 4. Central/Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3 and 3A.

2005 and 2006 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts and Central/Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3, 3A and 4. Central/Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1AA, 1A, 2, 2A, 3 and 3A.

2007 and 2008 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts and Central/Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3, 3A and 4. Central/Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3 and 3A.

2009 and 2010 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts, Central Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, !A, 2, 2A, 3, 3A, 4 and 4A. Central Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3 and 3A. Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 2, 3 and 4.

2011 and 2012 - High school football championship games were contested regionally in Eastern Massachusetts, Central Massachusetts and Western Massachusetts. Eastern Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3, 3A, 4, 4A and 5. Central Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. Western Massachusetts championships were held in Divisions 1, 2, 3 and 4.

2013 through 2015 - High school football championship games crowned statewide champs in Divisions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.

2016 - High school football championship games crowned statewide champs in Divisions 1, 1A, 2, 2A, 3, 3A, 4 and 4A.

2017 and 2018 - High school football championship games crowned statewide champions in Divisions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8.

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4 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

Has Massachusetts always played all the championship games at one site on the same day like that? With 8 divisions you would think the state would go with multiple sites.

Many states hold all their games at one site. And Massachusetts does have 2 of the 8 on Friday night.

 

Washington, Wyoming, Texas, Nebraska, South Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey (just started), New York (kinda), Vermont, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Hawaii, and Alaska all play their title games for the 'state association' at one site.

 

*--New York's NYSPHSAA plays their titles at Carrier Dome in Syracuse. But the two Long Island sections hold a Long Island Championship instead, but they're not state championships. The private schools in the MMAA and CHSFL do their own thing.

 

New Jersey doesn't have state finals, but instead of the Group finals they've had for years that were held at MetLife, Rutgers, Rowan, Keane, etc are no more. They now hold a 'bowl' after pitting the North 1 and North 2 groups against one another and the South and Central groups against one another. And the three private school groups play their titles now all at MetLife Stadium over two weekends.

 

1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

Most states have one site but break the games up over the entire weekend. Ohio has games on a Friday and Saturday at Fawcett Stadium (Benson Field) this year. Texas will break up games over two weekends. They also host the Six Man football championship in Arlington. Six Man and Division II championships are the weekend of December 14th, all other divisions are the following weekend. 

 

False and false.

 

Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium is an entirely new stadium. It'd be like calling FirstEnergy Stadium the same stadium as Cleveland Municipal Stadium just because it vaguely sits on the same land. Also, Ohio plays one game on Thursday night.

 

Secondly, Texas UIL titles have all been on the same weekend for the past few years now at one site.

 

First with the 1A (6-man) games on Wednesday night, with the 11-man games on Thursday (4 games), and Friday and Saturday (3 each). But, now they play three games each day, Wednesday through Saturday.

 

They haven't played 3A D1 and the 1A 6-man finals the week prior for several years now.

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