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Here is my vote for cy young

JOHAN SANTANA

I think that Johan Santana should win the Cy young because of these reasons

He has a 13-6 record which puts him tied for fourth in wins

He is second in ERA

Has 202 strikeouts which leads the American Leauge by 32

Opponets are batting a lowley .205

has the lowest hits per nine with 6.66

He is 4th in srikeouts per walks

He has a sick 10.20 strikeouts per nine which leads pedro by 1.02

So let me know what your thoughts are on this. Oh yea we are going to have a reapeat of the 1987 world series with the same results. Twins in seven baby

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I don't think so, beating the Yankees in August when the games mean nothing is a lot different than beating them when the games mean nothingsomething. As for Santana, I think he is deserving of the Cy Young but I think Moulder will have something to say about that.

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I don't think so, beating the Yankees in August when the games mean nothing is a lot different than beating them when the games mean nothing.

As for Santana, I think he is deserving of the Cy Young but I think Moulder will have something to say about that.

I'm gonna repeat what jkr said, but without the typo. Beating them when the games mean nothing is different than beating them when the games do mean something I believe was his intended point.

However -- I do think he deserves it, and not nessecarily based on his performance today. I turned off the game in the 6th I believe to watch the olympics but at that point he had a shutout, dunno if that continued.

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I would agree but Johan started off slow while Mark Mulder has been RELATIVELY consistent all year up until this last 1.5 months. Whoever pitched better in Spetmenber gets the award. I'm affraid Rogers' aweful ERA in August and July will hamper his chances.

The stats -

JOHAN SANTANA

G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA

April 5 5 1 0 0 0 0 28.1 30 18 17 5 8 24 5.40 1.34 .273

May 6 6 1 3 0 0 0 32.2 42 22 21 6 11 30 5.79 1.62 .313

June 5 5 4 1 0 0 0 37.2 21 10 10 5 6 46 2.39 0.72 .160

July 6 6 3 2 0 1 1 46.0 14 7 6 4 15 61 1.17 0.63 .095

August 3 3 3 0 0 0 0 21.1 16 7 6 3 4 29 2.53 0.94 .208

MARK MULDER

G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA

April 5 5 2 2 0 0 0 33.0 28 13 11 2 10 25 3.00 1.15 .228

May 5 5 4 0 0 3 1 39.0 30 14 13 4 12 23 3.00 1.08 .214

June 6 6 4 0 0 1 0 46.0 41 14 14 3 14 33 2.74 1.20 .246

July 5 5 4 1 0 1 0 37.0 38 21 21 4 11 26 5.11 1.32 .275

August 3 3 1 1 0 0 0 22.0 22 14 14 5 11 12 5.73 1.50 .272

KENNY ROGERS

G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA

April 5 5 3 1 0 0 0 31.2 32 16 15 1 10 16 4.26 1.33 .264

May 6 6 5 1 0 1 1 41.0 40 12 10 3 12 25 2.20 1.27 .260

June 6 6 3 0 0 1 0 38.0 36 17 17 7 7 23 4.03 1.13 .243

July 5 5 2 2 0 0 0 26.1 43 23 22 4 5 15 7.52 1.82 .371

August 3 3 1 1 0 0 0 15.1 23 15 14 2 11 7 8.22 2.22 .359

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With all the teams having about the same record, Mulder gets it. He's more important to his team that Santana. Rogers is also more important to his team, plus he'll get the feel good vote(the old guy on the team that was supposed to be bad).

Santana has the most support around him, so it diminish's his pitching.

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OK i did a little reasearch on run support and frankly its in Johans favor again

What I did was i took the total of runs scored and divided it by the number of games pitched

Mark Mulder : 25 games pitched 162 runs for the A's

Average: 6.48 runs per game

Kenny Rogers : 26 games pitched 152 runs for the Rangers

Average: 5.84 runs per game

Johan Santana : 26 games pitched 124 runs for the Twins

Average: 4.76 runs per game

This I think is very telling too because of the fact that on July 10th Mark Mulder gave up 6 earned runs and still won because the A's scored 16. The very next day against the tigers Johan gives up two earned runs and gets the loss because the Twins are shutout. I mean wins are important but that is not what the Cy Young should be determined by. I think that looking at run support in relation to wins is something that should be considered

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I'd also hesitate to call this win against the Yankees "unimportant." REmember, the Twins just came off a weekend drubbing by Cleveland, a team that somehow sneaked up to within a game of first place.

The team was down and on top of that they were facing three games against the Yankees, a team they haven't beat in the regular season for eons.

These victories mean as much, in my opinion, as a win in August.

Johan deserves the Cy Young.

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Mulder and Santana are distinct possibilities, but I'm gonna throw in Kenny Rogers for nomination. I don't know if he should win, but if Texas gets to the postseason, he'd be one hell of a huge reason.

Plus, between his wonderful corn muffins and frequent appearances in Branson, MO, it just makes him seem more rounded than those who only 'pitch'.

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Mulder and Santana are distinct possibilities, but I'm gonna throw in Kenny Rogers for nomination. I don't know if he should win, but if Texas gets to the postseason, he'd be one hell of a huge reason.

Plus, between his wonderful corn muffins and frequent appearances in Branson, MO, it just makes him seem more rounded than those who only 'pitch'.

And when asked about the secret to his pitching success he had this to say, "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em . . . "

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  • 3 weeks later...
With all the teams having about the same record, Mulder gets it. He's more important to his team that Santana. Rogers is also more important to his team, plus he'll get the feel good vote(the old guy on the team that was supposed to be bad).

Santana has the most support around him, so it diminish's his pitching.

I change my vote, Johann the man!

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