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9 minutes ago, BJ Sands said:

The Thunder should never be allowed to wear that. It’s a well-done concept, but real-life usage would spit in Seattle’s face. 

 

Yeah, that was a bad example. The old Sonics’ template is too specific, whereas the Senators MK II, Expos, and Thrashers’ uniform templates are common enough. I’d also like to add @Discrimihater‘s Pilots-Brewers and Braves-Brewers designs to the pile:

 

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Fauxbacks to pre-relocation or former teams in the area (when several decades removed or using a basic template) can be a fantastic idea. Heck, that’s basically the philosophy behind the Mets’ road uniform.

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@Ferdinand Cesarano

 

My friends and I fit perfectly in the 13-15 age group that you say "do not know the Nationals were once the Expos". So, I decided to experiment with that, and try out the survey you proposed.

 

I asked all of the baseball fans my age (that I know, of course) two questions. First, when were the Nationals founded? Second, if they had previously been in another city, where were they, and what was that team's identity?

 

The answers to the first question was almost unanimously 2005, with one 1968 (which I will accept) and one "early 1900s" (which means they probably lumped all three Washington clubs together). To the second question, most identified that they were once in Montreal and were the Expos. Only two said that they had always been in Washington, and both of them claimed the team was founded in 2005 (so, they thought the Nationals were an expansion team). 

 

Basically, only two out of around twenty did not know that the Nationals came from the Expos. 

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25 minutes ago, Magic Dynasty said:

@Ferdinand Cesarano

 

My friends and I fit perfectly in the 13-15 age group that you say "do not know the Nationals were once the Expos". So, I decided to experiment with that, and try out the survey you proposed.

 

I asked all of the baseball fans my age (that I know, of course) two questions. First, when were the Nationals founded? Second, if they had previously been in another city, where were they, and what was that team's identity?

 

The answers to the first question was almost unanimously 2005, with one 1968 (which I will accept) and one "early 1900s" (which means they probably lumped all three Washington clubs together). To the second question, most identified that they were once in Montreal and were the Expos. Only two said that they had always been in Washington, and both of them claimed the team was founded in 2005 (so, they thought the Nationals were an expansion team). 

 

Basically, only two out of around twenty did not know that the Nationals came from the Expos. 

 

EDIT: I’m a moron who leapt to conclusions. Whoopsies!

 

Sorry about that one. Anyway, I find it interesting that they cite 2005 as the founding date. It seems that nobody was really fooled by this:

 

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...which is very good.

 

They don’t need throwbacks to learn the history. Like @Gothamite put it, they can find these curiosities on their own.

 

Edited by SFGiants58
Removed my screw-up

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21 minutes ago, Magic Dynasty said:

@Ferdinand Cesarano

 

My friends and I fit perfectly in the 13-15 age group that you say "do not know the Nationals were once the Expos". So, I decided to experiment with that, and try out the survey you proposed.

 

I asked all of the baseball fans my age (that I know, of course) two questions. First, when were the Nationals founded? Second, if they had previously been in another city, where were they, and what was that team's identity?

 

The answers to the first question was almost unanimously 2005, with one 1968 (which I will accept) and one "early 1900s" (which means they probably lumped all three Washington clubs together). To the second question, most identified that they were once in Montreal and were the Expos. Only two said that they had always been in Washington, and both of them claimed the team was founded in 2005 (so, they thought the Nationals were an expansion team). 

 

Basically, only two out of around twenty did not know that the Nationals came from the Expos. 

 

Those results are most encouraging. That is certainly not what I would have expected.

 

I thank you for making the effort.

 

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17 hours ago, NicDB said:

Went and picked up one of these today. I always go for the 39thirty Flex because I find the regular 5950s uncomfortable and awkward.

 

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But when I picked it up, I noticed the back script on mine was a bit different than what's on the official website.

 

 

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I'm not trying to read too much into this, as it's possible that they just got lazy and used the same wordmark that's been on the royal blue version.

 

However, it's clear that the original wordmark on both the royal and navy version was based on the jerseys the caps were designed to be worn with. And they'd already made a few runs of these with the original (current) wordmark. So why go through the trouble of changing it?

 

As I said, I'm not trying to read too much into it. But could this be more evidence that the Brewers are leaning towards some version of the original BiG era unis, but in navy rather than royal?

 

I also prefer the 3930s but it irritates me that the logo is smaller than on the 5950s.

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I got a few Cubs caps, two 5950s (the former road cap and a fashion cap that is basically identical to the real one, but with additional red and white piping) and one 3930 with the '16 champions patch.  Love how the latter fits, to the point I can't remember the last time I wore either fitted.

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I just got a Twins (now former) road hat of the 3930. And the back of the hat has the Twins current road script, while the website has the home script on the back. So maybe their just changing up the scripts and the brewers one happens to be in Navy now...

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On 5/24/2019 at 5:55 PM, SFGiants58 said:

 

Oh yeah, they were worn for a game back in 1994. I only heard about them through Bill Henderson’s book. I like how these fauxbacks handle the Sens MK II’s aesthetic by folding it into the local identity. It’s less insulting to the city that (at the time) didn’t have a replacement team. It’s why I kind of wish the Thunder would do this (concept by @Brauny1280😞

 

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This is a cursed image.

 

My take on the whole Montreal/Washington thing is "let the organization decide." If they choose to acknowledge their past (like the Hurricanes are doing with the Whalers), that's fine. If they do a Rangers-style throwback (which I think would be cool), that's fine. They already choose to honor several Expos-related people in Nationals Stadium (they have the name and the Expos logo next to it), so I don't see why fully embracing their past would be a bad thing, but only because no other team has come to replace the Expos (So I wouldn't be ok with the Pelicans doing something like that). 

 

Also, while the Expos logo isn't good by any means, it's like the current Pistons logo: the nostalgia is what kept it around. The eMb is iconic and quite literally is the Expos. If they used anything else it wouldn't be the same. 

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12 hours ago, SFGiants58 said:

 

EDIT: I’m a moron who leapt to conclusions. Whoopsies!

 

Sorry about that one. Anyway, I find it interesting that they cite 2005 as the founding date. It seems that nobody was really fooled by this:

 

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...which is very good.

 

They don’t need throwbacks to learn the history. Like @Gothamite put it, they can find these curiosities on their own.

 

An updated font and some colors tweaking and that could make a really good primary for the nats

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1 hour ago, Bill81361 said:

Last night in Colorado
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And if it were the football teams for each city squaring off, the city/color representations would reverse!

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2 hours ago, Bill81361 said:

Last night in Colorado
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I honestly thought this game looked really good on TV, and I'm usually against teams wearing their alts. That said, the O's orange jersey looks leagues better than the black one.

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1 hour ago, QueenCitySwarm said:

I honestly thought this game looked really good on TV, and I'm usually against teams wearing their alts. That said, the O's orange jersey looks leagues better than the black one.

I really like the black ones, but the hat needs to go.

 

My favourite alt look is the black jerseys at home while batting, and as such wearing the batting helmet and not the caps.

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On 5/24/2019 at 2:04 PM, SFGiants58 said:

But is is it really necessary to know this history as a fan? The kids can take five seconds on Wikipedia to learn it, then go back to not caring about players who they never watched and have no relevance to their city. They’ll admit that Montréal’s team left due to a variety of factors, feel a tiny bit of regret, and move on. If the history comes up, a quick search can

It's still the Rangers, but it finds a way to invoke their past (recent past as well, given that they reused the '80s-1993 script) without shoving it in Washington fans' faces. This is how you handle throwbacks when there’s no replacement team. Just say “Expos-inspired” and you’re good.

 

The Winnipeg Whips’ logo would be perfect for a fauxback like this.

 

Something like this?

 

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On 5/11/2019 at 10:44 PM, Andrew_Gamer_NZP said:

And tonight, they're wearing their road hat with it:

 

And again today:

 

Maybe this is the new normal?

 

Also in my opinion, change the squatchee to orange to match the brim, and this should be their main hat (and hell maybe their only hat).

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1 hour ago, Andrew_Gamer_NZP said:

Also in my opinion, change the squatchee to orange to match the brim, and this should be their main hat (and hell maybe their only hat).

 

YES YES YES a squatchee should always match the contrasting brim, not the crown. 

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Are there any teams besides the Phillies where the squatcho (f your chee) matches neither the bill nor the monogram?  I've always thought it was corny.

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1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said:

Are there any teams besides the Phillies where the squatcho (f your chee) matches neither the bill nor the monogram?  I've always thought it was corny.

 

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The brim and the main color of the "P" is yellow, and the "squatcho" is red. Obviously the "P" has a red outline, but this is the closets I could find.

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