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54 minutes ago, Ray Lankford said:

The dual piping is what makes it so beautiful.

 

Disagree.  I can't think of many (if any) dual-piping jerseys that didn't look like fashion jerseys.  Single piping or in rare cases (Braves for example) triple piping is the way to go.

 

The W is a horrible chest logo.  It was clearly never designed for that application.  The DC is a far superior chest (and cap) logo, but I don't hate the curly-W on the cap.

 

The low-number is inexcusable and looks like a lot of the rec-league jerseys I see around here.  I'm not sure who thought that the lower right was a good place for a number - it really doesn't make any sense.

 

14 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

 

This year, maybe.  But next year....

 

It really needs to be.  It looks a million times better than the idiotic one they have now.  I'd even say they should make the script on the away version navy as well.

 

One more thing they need to do is scrap the Radom numbers.  They were fine with the original design, but really clash against the script-based ones.  Just go with standard MLB Block, or MLB Block Serif, or varsity block like the Yankees and old Expos.

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1 hour ago, Ray Lankford said:
18 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

While I love the contrasting front number ... this...

 

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...is one hell of a beautiful baseball uniform that should not be messed with, except to make the piping red only.  (No, I would not raise the number up.)  The contrast of the home jersey having the chest logo and road jersey having the "Washington" wordmark is very nice, in the classic Yankees / Tigers / Reds tradition.

The dual piping is what makes it so beautiful.

 

I think that the inclusion of blue makes the piping too dark.

The beauty of red-on-blue lettering alongside bright red piping was shown by the Texas Rangers.


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Yes.  The piping works better when it accentuates the design.  Plain piping makes the detailed wordmark or script the focal point, while still adding some nice detail and making it look like a "finished" design.

 

Numbers are the same way.  If you have an ornate wordmark, then plain numbers/NOB are the way to go.  Stylized numbers either create two focal points (if the numbers are not the same style as wordmark) and lessen the impact of all design elements, or (if the same style as the wordmark) blend in and... well, lessen the impact of all design elements.

 

I think it's the same way with NFL uniforms, and is why basic one-color block (or at least non flashy) numbers work so well for teams like the Steelers and pre LOL-era Browns.

 

Go ahead... cosign this one too.

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16 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

Disagree.  I can't think of many (if any) dual-piping jerseys that didn't look like fashion jerseys.  Single piping or in rare cases (Braves for example) triple piping is the way to go.

 

The W is a horrible chest logo.  It was clearly never designed for that application.  The DC is a far superior chest (and cap) logo, but I don't hate the curly-W on the cap.

 

The low-number is inexcusable and looks like a lot of the rec-league jerseys I see around here.  I'm not sure who thought that the lower right was a good place for a number - it really doesn't make any sense.

 

 

It really needs to be.  It looks a million times better than the idiotic one they have now.  I'd even say they should make the script on the away version navy as well.

 

One more thing they need to do is scrap the Radom numbers.  They were fine with the original design, but really clash against the script-based ones.  Just go with standard MLB Block, or MLB Block Serif, or varsity block like the Yankees and old Expos.

 

The Nats are a red first team and should stay that way. And I’m confident they will.

 

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6 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

Yes.  The piping works better when it accentuates the design.  Plain piping makes the detailed wordmark or script the focal point, while still adding some nice detail and making it look like a "finished" design.

Except the Nats don’t have a home wordmark or script.

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Wait - isn't the script navy?  I thought other photos showed it as navy. 

 

The Senators were a red/white team, but the Nationals were more navy.  If they want to be "Nationals", then they should probably stick with that.  

 

It's like they want to be the Senators, but call themselves the Nationals, creating an identity crisis and resulting in being one color at home and one on the road (though the road has become more consistent with home in recent years.)

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32 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

Wait - isn't the script navy?  I thought other photos showed it as navy. 

 

The script is navy on the ST jerseys. The red Nationals script is a prototype from years ago. 

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1 hour ago, DeFrank said:

 

The Nats are a red first team and should stay that way. And I’m confident they will.

 

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I wanna punch the person that said no to this years ago. Can’t believe it took them till now to finally break these out.

 

And to get my two cents in on the DC-Curly W debate, I’m going with the Curly W. Yes it looks like Walgreens but it has so much history with DC baseball. I find it a much better logo than the DC. 

The DC logo has a lot going on with the shading. Maybe if they clean it up it could look better but I’d still prefer the Curly W. 

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1 hour ago, Ray Lankford said:

Except the Nats don’t have a home wordmark or script.

 

Only because of a bad choice on the club's part.  They have a script, an excellent one. 

 

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That could become their home wordmark with a simple notification to MLB.  And given the positive reception to their ST uniforms, that just may happen.

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1 hour ago, RoughRiders99 said:

 

Are there any merit to this? If it truly was intentional, then wow, kudos. If not, then a happy accident?

 

What do you think? I think it’s a little of a stretch, but a happy coincidence. 

 

 

An obvious stretch.  If that had been intended, they wouldn't have messed up the "p" by putting the line break where they did.

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24 minutes ago, insert name said:

I wanna punch the person that said no to this years ago. Can’t believe it took them till now to finally break these out.

 

And to get my two cents in on the DC-Curly W debate, I’m going with the Curly W. Yes it looks like Walgreens but it has so much history with DC baseball. I find it a much better logo than the DC. 

The DC logo has a lot going on with the shading. Maybe if they clean it up it could look better but I’d still prefer the Curly W. 

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This is listed as a current alternate logo on sportslogos.net, which actually surprised me when I researched just now. It isn't really used in many promotional materials that I can think of.

 

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11 minutes ago, insert name said:

I wanna punch the person that said no to this years ago. Can’t believe it took them till now to finally break these out.

 

Agreed. The prototype is also better, given that the letters resemble the “Washington” script more.

 

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And to get my two cents in on the DC-Curly W debate, I’m going with the Curly W. Yes it looks like Walgreens but it has so much history with DC baseball. I find it a much better logo than the DC. 

 

Well, if you want to count a solitary winning season by the money pit known as the Senators MK II and a bunch of playoff disasters under the current team, then yes, it has history.

 

If you want to play the “history” argument, a block “W” has more history. Just look at the logos worn by the first and second Senators.

 

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If you want to modernize their “historical” look, an updated Block W (with some elements of Albertus, a lettering for for the 2005-10 Nats) would be perfect (shameless plug).

 

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Todd Radom’s “beveled W” would also be fantastic.

 

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The DC logo has a lot going on with the shading. Maybe if they clean it up it could look better but I’d still prefer the Curly W. 

 

I’ve fixed up the known issues with the DC’s interlock problem as well (ignore the gold outline, if you want to - quite frankly, the Nationals and Twins should swap home uniform color balances).

 

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The Nationals have a lot of potential, most of which involves demoting the Curly W to the first letter in the road script.

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22 minutes ago, DeFrank said:

 

 

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I really don’t like the way the navy outlines work on this.  They’re obviously a remnant of the beveling, but without it they’re just odd.  Either allow the red letters to fully interact and outline the whole thing, or complete the blue outlines on the right side of the crossing points.  

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23 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

While I love the contrasting front number, and while I applaud the Nationals for wearing their real uniforms in spring training, this...

 

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...is one hell of a beautiful baseball uniform that should not be messed with, except to make the piping red only.  (No, I would not raise the number up.)  The contrast of the home jersey having the chest logo and road jersey having the "Washington" wordmark is very nice, in the classic Yankees / Tigers / Reds tradition.

I agree with you...not completely, but design-wise, I like most of what the uniform has going on. Took me a trip to the MLB Shop to realize the double piping is a bit trippy to the eyes and everybody knows what's up with that number placement. I don't know...as I'm watching it on TV, it doesn't really irritate me though. I often think I'm just seeing more red in the piping. If I had to make a change to save my life, maybe remove the front number and call it a day, but that's my unpopular opinion for the record.

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I'm sure this has probably been done a hundred times before, but here it goes.

  • Modified DC logo (as mentioned above)
  • Modified current primary logo (possible sleeve patch?)seams are from the original Nationals logo
  • Curly W remains because I doubt they'd get rid of it entirely
  • New number font

 

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Looks like the Brewers have tweaked their alternate navy cap:

 

 

Here's the old cap from last year, almost out of stock (only 18 total left) on MLB's online shop:

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And here's the new one, put up without announcement:

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I think the different shade of navy is probably just a trick of the photo, but you can see that the New Era flag is now gold, and - best of all - white webbing!  That's bothered me since the cap was introduced back in 2016.

 

Now if we can just get Majestic or Nike or whoever to fix the sleeve patch:

 

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The Brewers still have terrible uniforms, but we can fix them one small step at a time.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Survival79 said:

I'm sure this has probably been done a hundred times before, but here it goes.

  • Modified DC logo (as mentioned above)
  • Modified current primary logo (possible sleeve patch?)seams are from the original Nationals logo
  • Curly W remains because I doubt they'd get ride of it entirely
  • New number font

 

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Replace the DC with the current W, or even the block. Both look 10x better

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