Angels tell Anaheim they're opting out of their lease on Angel Stadium

[Brian in Boston]

On 5/26/2022 at 6:35 PM, Digby said:

I'd place a bet on a Union Station-Dodger Stadium gondola waaaay before one on a downtown LA Angels stadium.

All I need to know about the LA ART (Los Angeles Aerial Rapid Transit) Gondola is that it was proposed by Aerial Rapid Transit Technologies LLC, an entity created and controlled by McCourt Global. Yep... former Dodger owner Frank McCourt's outfit. Given the manner in which Frank's stewardship of the Dodgers came to a close - MLB concerns over the finances and operations of the team, an outside party being appointed by MLB to oversee the franchise's financials, and the club ultimately filing for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection - I'll pass on his gondola plan.

For the life of me, I can't understand why the Dodgers' current owners would want to be any more involved with McCourt than having to fork over the $14 million per year they've already agreed to as the cost for renting the Dodgers Stadium parking lots from an entity he holds a 50% stake in.    

[Guest]

4 hours ago, DEAD! said:

 

When I went to LA for a weekend about three years ago, I was actually surprised how extensive the Metro subway/light rail system is. I stayed downtown and I took the metro to Hollywood, Santa Monica and USC. 

What it lacks though, is a proper stop at the airport. Yes there is one nearby LAX, but I think you still have to take a shuttle there. Maybe that is asking too much. 

 

It was supposedly a concession to the taxi lobby. (cabbie lobby?) Originally it was supposed to go all the way to the airport, IIRC.   Years later they approved the extension to LAX--for wayyyyy more money than it would had cost had they done that in the first place.

[LMU]

7 hours ago, sayahh said:

 

It was supposedly a concession to the taxi lobby. (cabbie lobby?) Originally it was supposed to go all the way to the airport, IIRC.   Years later they approved the extension to LAX--for wayyyyy more money than it would had cost had they done that in the first place.

That and they opted to steer it towards the aerospace companies in El Segundo instead so employees could use it to commute but the industry almost entirely packed up and left by the time the train was built.

[goalieboy82]

18 hours ago, Digby said:

 

True, but, find a US city that has done more to build out its public transit system in the past 10 years than LA. Better late than never.

 

I'd place a bet on a Union Station-Dodger Stadium gondola waaaay before one on a downtown LA Angels stadium.

anytime i hear Union Station i think of:

 

[crashcarson15]

22 hours ago, DEAD! said:

 

When I went to LA for a weekend about three years ago, I was actually surprised how extensive the Metro subway/light rail system is. I stayed downtown and I took the metro to Hollywood, Santa Monica and USC. 

What it lacks though, is a proper stop at the airport. Yes there is one nearby LAX, but I think you still have to take a shuttle there. Maybe that is asking too much. 

We're talking about getting to LAX?

[The_Admiral]

Long Beach, the original intended home of the Angels, intrigues me, but I still don't think there's anywhere to put a stadium -- or, more to the point, there's nowhere to put the amount of surface parking a Los Angeles baseball stadium would demand.

[LMU]

13 hours ago, the admiral said:

Long Beach, the original intended home of the Angels, intrigues me, but I still don't think there's anywhere to put a stadium -- or, more to the point, there's nowhere to put the amount of surface parking a Los Angeles baseball stadium would demand.

I pointed out way early in the thread that the proposed location, the current site of Long Beach Arena, already has massive parking structures nearby for the Aquarium of the Pacific and the cruise ship terminals. If they can come up with some kind of lease agreement that would solve a lot of the issue.

[LMU]

On 5/29/2022 at 8:40 AM, LMU said:

I pointed out way early in the thread that the proposed location, the current site of Long Beach Arena, already has massive parking structures nearby for the Aquarium of the Pacific and the cruise ship terminals. If they can come up with some kind of lease agreement that would solve a lot of the issue.

Because I'm a map nerd, here's a Google Map with all the current large parking structures in the area.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1yY9AHlPJM3l5XEoPmGvBVD3B72iWPC0&usp=sharing

[Sec19Row53]

6 hours ago, LMU said:

Because I'm a map nerd, here's a Google Map with all the current large parking structures in the area.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1yY9AHlPJM3l5XEoPmGvBVD3B72iWPC0&usp=sharing

Did you include Jobing.com arena?

[LMU]

1 hour ago, Sec19Row53 said:

Did you include Jobing.com arena?

We’re a car culture here. Nobody wants to spend a few hours after games scraping nonbeliever blood off their tires.

[The_Admiral]

 

On 6/7/2022 at 9:36 AM, LMU said:

Because I'm a map nerd, here's a Google Map with all the current large parking structures in the area.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1yY9AHlPJM3l5XEoPmGvBVD3B72iWPC0&usp=sharing

 

It's your neck of the woods. If you think it's gonna work, I'll take your word for it, but it doesn't feel like a home run to me. It would be very cool, though. So close yet so far to a SoCal Pac Bell Park where home runs go into the ocean.

[Digby]

As long as they change the name to "Long Beach Angels", for the sake of giving this forum another eight or so years of content and argument.

[monkeypower]

1 hour ago, Digby said:

As long as they change the name to "Long Beach Angels", for the sake of giving this forum another eight or so years of content and argument.

 

It'll just be a retread of when the Angels were looking to move out of Los Angeles in the 60s.

 

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The Angels’ top brass—president Bob Reynolds, general manager Fred Haney, and business manager Cedric Tallis—scouted the city in 1963, and things seemed promising. Things always seem promising in the early stages of all Long Beach dreams.

 

Negotiations to bring the Angels to Long Beach exploded the following year, though, when Long Beach City Manager John Mansell, in the third year of the 15 in which he would lead the city, demanded that the name of the team be changed to the Long Beach Angels.

 

Autry would have none of it. He thought Long Beach sounded bush league and instead insisted the name be the Southern California Angels*, to represent not only Los Angeles and Orange counties, but the growing Inland Empire as well. “That was unacceptable to us,” said Mansell (and the whole project, for that matter, was unacceptable to a group of citizens, led by future councilwoman Renee Simon, who protested the use of planned park land for the stadium).

 

"It's like poetry, they rhyme"

 

*I have seen both "Southern California" and "California" used in these anecdotes, so I don't know which one officially Autry wanted to go with.

[FiddySicks]

I made the suggestion years ago that the two AL California teams should use Southern California and Northern California as their location markers and got absolutely eviscerated for it. I still don’t hate the idea. Both teams have had “location flux” for decades, so why not just make it more vague so you don’t have another situation where one of these teams is getting sued by, like, San Leandro or Garden Grove or some :censored:. 

[GDAWG]

10 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

I made the suggestion years ago that the two AL California teams should use Southern California and Northern California as their location markers and got absolutely eviscerated for it. I still don’t hate the idea. Both teams have had “location flux” for decades, so why not just make it more vague so you don’t have another situation where one of these teams is getting sued by, like, San Leandro or Garden Grove or some :censored:. 

 

Northern California might not be a location marker in the AL for long.

[tp49]

Dredging this up because with the announcement that Moreno is now exploring selling the team, I can't help but think the fiasco involved in this thread is the main reason why.

[CaliforniaGlowin]

The first step to a rebrand!

[DEAD!]

4 hours ago, tp49 said:

Dredging this up because with the announcement that Moreno is now exploring selling the team, I can't help but think the fiasco involved in this thread is the main reason why.

Hallelujah

[LMU]

Arte is being absolutely torched in the local media.

 

 

[Kevin W.]

4 minutes ago, LMU said:

Arte is being absolutely torched in the local media.

Ya just HATE to see it.