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Tampa Bay Times Sports editorial: Save us from the Buccaneers’ hideous uniforms

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1 hour ago, VancouverFan69 said:

 

Besides being hard to draw, what other things makes so Bucco Bruce unpopular? I actually liked the logo. There are some similarities with the Raiders' logo and 'Elvis' the Patriot.

 

The biggest knock against that logo is the color choices they used. They didn’t contrast enough. The red and orange were kind of their thing, but when you paired both of those together it muddied up the logo really badly and made the logo really hard to see. It was tough to distinguish when I was a kid, and absolutely impossible to see from any distance. It actually took me a few years before I realized that the logo was supposed to be a pirate’s head with a knife in his mouth (remember now, I was a kid living in California and didn’t see it all over the place other than during game days). Prior to noticing that one day while looking at the logo, it just looked like a messy orange and red blob. 

 

Also, it translates MISERABLY when stitched. 

 

 

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21 hours ago, Gothamite said:

 

Honest question: why not?

 

I wanna say it's the face... I'm not going to say that every logo needs to look tough, but the grin and wink (along with the overall "facial structure") just doesn't do it for me.

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On 12/1/2018 at 11:04 AM, DouglasQuaid said:

 

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On 11/29/2018 at 2:06 PM, Carolingian Steamroller said:

 

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I've been doing some thinking about this, in light of recent rebranding events in the NFL...and save for maybe some kind of slight stripe edit or something, unless there's some hard rule on the books we're unaware of, I really don't see any reason the Buccaneers couldn't revive these uniforms again.  

 

Look it: that's pretty much exactly what the San Francisco 49ers did--revive their 80s uniforms roughly 98% intact (we won't mention those angled sleeve stripes). And aside from the shoehorned navy, so did the Buffalo Bills (with the slight exception of their number font--which actually is remarkably close to that of the former Buccaneers' uniforms).

 

All I'm saying is that if they wanted to bring these back, there's already been recent precedent set for it that the league allowed.

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That’s a good idea except the 49ers did the one thing I’m terrified the Bucs are going to do. Keep the current logo. It was good in the Niners case because the current logo is a very strong improvement over the previous version. The Bucs current logo, on the other hand, is an absolute dumpster fire in comparison to the previous one. If they Bring back that set but keep the current logo, it’s still an enormous fail. 

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3 hours ago, Buc said:

Look it: that's pretty much exactly what the San Francisco 49ers did--revive their 80s uniforms roughly 98% intact (we won't mention those angled sleeve stripes)

Yeah they're what the 49ers did all right

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I know sometimes we go gaga for past uniforms, even if they weren't that popular in their time, just because either 1) the current ones blow, or 2) old stuff is cool, but viewed through any lens, that genuinely was and still is a very good football uniform.

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I think the Buc's flag logos - both the original and the update - are bottom-tier NFL logos.  The skull and swords would be a much stronger - although quite generic - primary look, because it looks rather tacked on in both the flag logo and the ship logo.  Kinda reminds me of the full-body logos for the Panthers, Jaguars, Bengals, etc.

 

Their old look is wonderful otherwise, but if Nike can't make shiny pants anymore then why bother?  Bronze ≠ Brown, and it really drags down their current look (among other things).

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2 hours ago, Kaz said:

I think the Buc's flag logos - both the original and the update - are bottom-tier NFL logos.  The skull and swords would be a much stronger - although quite generic - primary look, because it looks rather tacked on in both the flag logo and the ship logo.  Kinda reminds me of the full-body logos for the Panthers, Jaguars, Bengals, etc.

 

Their old look is wonderful otherwise, but if Nike can't make shiny pants anymore then why bother?  Bronze ≠ Brown, and it really drags down their current look (among other things).

Agree to disagree, the first version of the sword flag logo is an awesome logo and very menacing, the roughness of it made it unique, the update is lame. 

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I’ve said it numerous times, as a fan and as a uniform nerd, the only things I think came out better for the Bucs was the shade of red, the shade of orange, and the ship logo. Everything else was a downgrade. The flag was a slight downgrade, but the number font, facemask, shade of pewter, wordmark, and the shoulder yokes were large downgrades.

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2 hours ago, Kaz said:

I think the Buc's flag logos - both the original and the update - are bottom-tier NFL logos.  The skull and swords would be a much stronger - although quite generic - primary look, because it looks rather tacked on in both the flag logo and the ship logo.  Kinda reminds me of the full-body logos for the Panthers, Jaguars, Bengals, etc.

 

Their old look is wonderful otherwise, but if Nike can't make shiny pants anymore then why bother?  Bronze ≠ Brown, and it really drags down their current look (among other things).

 

I don't know about "bottom tier", but while I think the old uniform is solid, I'll agree that the logos leave a lot to be desired.  The ship is fine for a sleeve logo (but nothing else), but the tattered flag with skull/crossbones is pretty hokey.  Regardless of hokeyness, it does work well on the helmet, so I'm not going to deduct points.

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If you saw the Bucs at training camp at Walt Disney World in the mid-2000s, you may remember these practice jersey gems that Cadillac Williams and others wore.  This is the jersey number style the Bucs finally need to adopt to distinguish the team in a postiive way.

 

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47 minutes ago, shark said:

If you saw the Bucs at training camp at Walt Disney World in the mid-2000s, you may remember these practice jersey gems that Cadillac Williams and others wore.  This is the jersey number style the Bucs finally need to adopt to distinguish the team in a postiive way.

 

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100 % agree, and a small update to the previous uniforms without going overboard!

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I don't think people can quite remember how radical a shift it was when the Bucs switched from their initial look to the pewter and red. Not only did they look radically different, they played radically different. I remember when I saw that the sadsack Buccaneers not only won their opening game of 1997, they did so over the then-great 49ers. And they looked awesome doing so; it was a sea change for the franchise and only took them two years to become a Super Bowl contender and five years to win it all.

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My first post on this board after eons of lurking. 

 

Nostalgia is a powerful thing.  Creamsicle and Bucco Bruce remind the most influential demographic in America of our childhoods.  Nostalgia is MONEY. 

 

Personally, I like the Bucs in their traditional 1997-era duds.  That was a classy look and they owned those colors.

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Totally agree about nostalgia. The Bucs were ridiculed and the butt of many jokes while in the orange set. I kinda liked it, but everyone I knew thought they were gross or “gay” (it was a long time ago) or weak or just ugly. Now everyone seems to want them back. Like I said, I don’t have a problem with it, but I think that most of the people clamoring for them to return to that set weren’t alive during its run.*

 

 

*same goes for the Phillies 80s set. 

 

 

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11 hours ago, shark said:

If you saw the Bucs at training camp at Walt Disney World in the mid-2000s, you may remember these practice jersey gems that Cadillac Williams and others wore.  This is the jersey number style the Bucs finally need to adopt to distinguish the team in a postiive way.

 

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I originally liked those numbers as a one time use for practice unis, but for visibility purposes in game they're terrible to identify from far away.  The 7 and the 1 were oddly identical IIRC.

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4 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

Totally agree about nostalgia. The Bucs were ridiculed and the butt of many jokes while in the orange set. I kinda liked it, but everyone I knew thought they were gross or “gay” (it was a long time ago) or weak or just ugly. Now everyone seems to want them back. Like I said, I don’t have a problem with it, but I think that most of the people clamoring for them to return to that set weren’t alive during its run.*

 

 

*same goes for the Phillies 80s set. 

 

 

I don't think there's any doubt that the Bucs had the NFL's most-mocked look in the 1980s.  I loved 'em...they are legitimately in my top-5 NFL uniforms of all time. I Just think the colors worked really well together, particularly on the white jersey and helmet.  That said, even I don't think they should bring them back.  I think even players hated them.  They were more viewed as "soft"...like the opposite of aggressive/tough black uniforms.  Wimpy.  If I really believed their fanbase would love them back and the rest of us would not mock them, I'd be all for it.  But I think they're pretty much good for retro merchandise sales, given what we thought of them when they were around.

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