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On 12/12/2018 at 8:08 AM, the admiral said:

I really much preferred the SoDo site with KeyArena becoming an amphitheater. Seemed better for the park setting.

 

Ultimately, I do too, but Queen Anne is the coolest neighborhood in that city. Having an arena there (especially one that is as tucked away as Key Arena is) adds another level of intrigue to that area. 

 

 

Parking and traffic are going to be absolute hell, though. They’ve really got to figure that part out. 

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1 hour ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

Ultimately, I do too, but Queen Anne is the coolest neighborhood in that city. Having an arena there (especially one that is as tucked away as Key Arena is) adds another level of intrigue to that area.  

  

  

Parking and traffic are going to be absolute hell, though. They’ve really got to figure that part out.  

 

This is only true if you've actually never been anywhere else in Seattle.

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I dunno, I lived all over the city and found that area to be my favorite, anyway. What’s your favorite? 

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28 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

I dunno, I lived all over the city and found that area to be my favorite, anyway. What’s your favorite? 

 

I live in Belltown and enjoy Ballard, Capitol Hill and Pioneer Square. I never go out in Queen Anne, though I enjoy a lot of what Seattle Center has to offer.

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Isn’t Belltown just south of Queen Anne anyway? I do like Ballard, though. Capitol Hill is WAY overrated IMO. My roommates went to Seattle U and I just found CH to be a pain in the ass to get around in. Pioneer Square has some really cool bars. I lived just off of Yesler and 15th (Sir-Mix-A-Lot’s hood) and worked in SoDo so I walked down there quite a bit. I kinda wish I would’ve just stayed there rather than moving to the U District. But I did have some interesting times there with cool people, so it was ok. 

 

This is all just makes me miss Seattle :( 

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Todd Leiweke, CEO of NHL Seattle, has revealed that the expansion hockey team will place its American Hockey League affiliate in either Boise, Idaho or the Palm Springs, California area.

Seattle's NHL franchise narrows down location for top affiliate team

A Boise-based affiliate would set up shop in the 5,002-seat CenturyLink Arena, currently home to the ECHL's Idaho Steelheads.

Meanwhile, a California-based farm-team for NHL Seattle would likely operate out of The Shield at 1 Coyote Way, a proposed 12,000-seat arena that the Coachella Sports & Entertainment Stadium Authority is seeking to build in Palm Desert, 14 miles east of Palm Springs.    

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22 minutes ago, Brian in Boston said:

Todd Leiweke, CEO of NHL Seattle, has revealed that the expansion hockey team will place its American Hockey League affiliate in either Boise, Idaho or the Palm Springs, California area.

Seattle's NHL franchise narrows down location for top affiliate team

A Boise-based affiliate would set up shop in the 5,002-seat CenturyLink Arena, currently home to the ECHL's Idaho Steelheads.

Meanwhile, a California-based farm-team for NHL Seattle would likely operate out of The Shield at 1 Coyote Way, a proposed 12,000-seat arena that the Coachella Sports & Entertainment Stadium Authority is seeking to build in Palm Desert, 14 miles east of Palm Springs.    

 

That could be interesting as the Idaho Steelheads are an affiliate of the Dallas Stars. 

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Palm Desert? What the hell?

 

Here's where that potential Palm Desert arena would be (scheduled to open by 2021, by the way). It'd be between the Classic Club and the 10, and then where it is in relation to the Ontario Reign and San Diego Gulls.

 

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So close and yet judging from the roads so :censored: ing far.

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But why Palm Springs? There are so many better places it could go.

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AHL: we gotta abandon these depressing northeastern mill towns

 

Also AHL: sentences people to Indio, Stockton, and Bakersfield

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Palm Springs Squids it is!!!!!

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On 5/31/2019 at 2:59 PM, Kevin W. said:

But why Palm Springs? There are so many better places it could go.

It honestly comes down to the limited number of ice sheets with suitable seating available in California.

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29 minutes ago, BeerGuyJordan said:

It honestly comes down to the limited number of ice sheets with suitable seating available in California.

But the better question is why Seattle would want a team in a state already with 3 NHL teams and 5 AHL teams in an area a few hours from 2 more NHL teams and another AHL team.  The PNW would be a much better idea.

 

If anything VGK would be better served establishing a team in Coachella with SEA getting an existing club.  Or let the Roadrunners relocate and partner with VGK when the Coyotes inevitably head to Houston, give San Antonio to Houston, and give the Wolves to STL.

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7 hours ago, LMU said:

But the better question is why Seattle would want a team in a state already with 3 NHL teams and 5 AHL teams in an area a few hours from 2 more NHL teams and another AHL team.  The PNW would be a much better idea.



While a Boise-based American Hockey League affiliate would be more conveniently located in relation to its NHL Seattle parent-club, its distance from the markets of other AHL Pacific Division opponents would be significant in terms of the time and expense necessary to travel to them for games.  Certainly greater than the distance, time, and expense involved in traveling to the markets of divisional opponents from the proposed Coachella Valley arena site. 

Boise to...
Stockton, CA = 604 miles 
San Jose, CA = 673 miles 
Loveland, CO = 765 miles
Bakersfield, CA = 802 miles
Ontario, CA = 827 miles
San Diego, CA = 929 miles
Tucson, AZ = 1,037 miles

The proposed Coachella Valley arena site to...
Ontario, CA = 80 miles
San Diego, CA = 127 miles
Bakersfield, CA = 227 miles
Tucson, AZ = 368 miles
San Jose, CA = 457 miles
Stockton, CA = 459 miles
Loveland, CO = 1,036 miles

As for the territory of a Coachella Valley-based franchise overlapping with that of the 3 NHL and 5 AHL franchises within California, the NHL clubs in Nevada and Arizona, and the AHL team in Arizona, I'd be shocked if many hockey fans in the Palm Springs/Palm Desert/Indio region - existing or potential - were routinely making the journey to-and-from the games of said existing teams. That said, might the population that descends upon the Coachella Valley in the winter months include enough hockey fans - casual and/or die-hard - to pull in crowds somewhere in the neighborhood of the AHL's overall attendance average of 5,794 fans-per-game?     

The NHL Seattle brass is likely mulling a decision between whether they want to have more convenient access to minor league players for call-ups, or are more concerned with the wear-and-tear - both on their farmhands and their financial bottom-line - that operating an AHL affiliate in a geographically-isolated market might provide. 

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6 hours ago, LMU said:

But the better question is why Seattle would want a team in a state already with 3 NHL teams and 5 AHL teams in an area a few hours from 2 more NHL teams and another AHL team.  The PNW would be a much better idea.

 

Not to mention, we did the whole Westward Expansion in the AHL to make call-ups to the NHL easier.

 

I know there is an airport in Palm Springs and it does have flights to Seattle via Delta and Alaska (although, I didn't know the extent of their airline carriers until I Googled. I was quite surprised, actually), but how in the world is Palm Springs easier than Boise? Although, I guess the same can be said about Bakersfield to Edmonton or Stockton to Calgary (not to mention Utica to Vancouver). Not everyone gets to be LA-Ontairo/Anaheim-San Diego/Phoenix-Tucson.

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3 minutes ago, Still MIGHTY said:

Not everyone gets to be LA-Ontairo/Anaheim-San Diego/Phoenix-Tucson.

Or SAP Center locker room A -> SAP Center locker room B for that matter.

 

Then again, maybe Seattle can run their AHL team like the Lakers do with their G League club and just have them play in a practice rink with a few hundred bleacher seats.

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7 minutes ago, LMU said:

Or SAP Center locker room A -> SAP Center locker room B for that matter.

 

Now that's one hell of a trek. Wear me out. 

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