North American Pro Soccer 2019

[dfwabel]

9 minutes ago, AstroBull21 said:

Miami I believe is still a big IF, i dont think they have a temporary venue lined up.

They received approval for the Lockhart site three weeks ago, but FXE Futbol filed a request for an injunction on the project last Monday.

 

1 minute ago, Wings said:

Any chance Miami uses Hard Rock on a temporary basis or is that a no go?

Unlikely since Stephen Ross is at odds with US Soccer and its relationship with SUM.

[TBGKon]

42 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

They received approval for the Lockhart site three weeks ago, but FXE Futbol filed a request for an injunction on the project last Monday.

The Lockhart site needs serious help to be ready for next season, and legal issues only delay the short timeframe on the calendar.  This was lockhart last month

 

[Dilbert]

2 hours ago, AstroBull21 said:

Miami I believe is still a big IF, i dont think they have a temporary venue lined up.

Well Lockhart is their temporary venue but Im not sure if they have a temporary venue for their temporary venue. I think at one point they mention Marlins Park is out. That would leave Hard Rock in Miami Gardens (unlikely), FAU in Boca Raton (only logical choice left besides sitting out another season), or Ricardo Silva at FIU (unlikely). Ricardo Silva currently hosts Miami FC of the NPSL and formerly of the ill fated NASL. Silva owns Miami FC and had FIUs stadium renamed after him. He likely wouldnt let them play there after the NASL-USSF fiasco.

[SFGiants58]

Just now, Dilbert said:

Well Lockhart is their temporary venue but Im not sure if they have a temporary venue for their temporary venue. I think at one point they mention Marlins Park is out. That would leave Hard Rock in Miami Gardens, FAU in Boca Raton, or Ricardo Silva at FIU. Ricardo Silva currently hosts Miami FC of the NPSL and formerly of the ill fated NASL.

 

Here's a fun idea: cancel the expansion, tell Beckham to piss off, and give up on Miami. In exchange, encourage the Rowdies to assemble an ownership group to replace Inter Miami. 

[Dilbert]

Just now, SFGiants58 said:

 

Here's a fun idea: cancel the expansion, tell Beckham to piss off, and give up on Miami. In exchange, encourage the Rowdies to assemble an ownership group to replace Inter Miami. 

Honestly Id rather see the Rowdies in than Miami. Too bad the Rays have no interest in MLS.

[FiddySicks]

Here's a VERY interesting tidbit I just came across, and I haven't seen this posted anywhere else. 

 

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The odds of your city landing an Major League Soccer club just got a little bit better. After just last month announcing that it’s down to Sacramento and St. Louis for the 28th and final spot, MLS has bumped the number of teams getting in to 30. The catch is, team 28 will get in for just$150 million while teams 29 and 30 will have to pay a whopping $200 million expansion fee.

 

Here's the article. MLS Expansion Update: 30 Teams, St. Louis, Sacramento, Austin

 

I almost feel like, if this is really true, MLS kinda owes it to Sacramento to give them the 28th spot after some of the they've been through trying to get this bid in order. St. Louis and Phoenix/Vegas/Whoever are pretty new to this, while it's been like a half decade for Sacramento. I can't see them placing St. Louis in the league ahead of Sacramento for $50 million less and that sitting well with, well, just about anyone. 

[GDAWG]

Miami will probably be like the Rays and A's in baseball......forever having issues regarding a stadium. 

[Red Wolf]

3 hours ago, GDAWG said:

Miami will probably be like the Rays and A's in baseball......forever having issues regarding a stadium. 

 

Miami will be more like the Tampa Bay Giants and be a team that's seemingly a done deal but never happens.

[SFGiants58]

44 minutes ago, Red Wolf said:

 

Miami will be more like the Tampa Bay Giants and be a team that's seemingly a done deal but never happens.

 

Indianapolis Arrows is a better comparison. Trust me, I’ve done the research. 

 

Tampa Bay Giants, if we’re being honest, didn’t have much of a chance. It was scuttled because of TV deals and opposition from the O’Malley family. Unless MLB wanted to lose a lot of money, they wouldn’t have let it happen. Stadium for Rent is a must-read if you’re into expansion/relocation. It’s also a good illustration of why you should never build a stadium on speculation or for a potential relocation. 

[JackieMoon]

18 hours ago, AstroBull21 said:

The Lockhart site needs serious help to be ready for next season, and legal issues only delay the short timeframe on the calendar.  This was lockhart last month

 

Wow that's what Beckham brings to the MLS? I'm with everyone else. If there is to be a second Florida team bring in the Rowdies.

[dfwabel]

10 minutes ago, sohiosportsfreak said:

Wow that's what Beckham brings to the MLS? I'm with everyone else. If there is to be a second Florida team bring in the Rowdies.

The team told the city that they'd conduct asbestos abatement and demolish the current stands.

A new, modular stadium can be constructed in less than four months. 

[TBGKon]

36 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

The team told the city that they'd conduct asbestos abatement and demolish the current stands.

A new, modular stadium can be constructed in less than four months. 

I assume in 4 months the goal isnt this..but maybe the beginning phases

[Digby]

That temporary stadium that Vancouver built before BC Place was ready ought to be the model. No idea how it was for the fans and players, of course, but it looked professional enough to suffice from afar and gave the team a good base to start with instead of being bogged down in bureaucratic nightmares. Seems a better solution than settling for a suburban erector set stadium like the teams before them, or the expensive Hail Marys that we're seeing now (that aren't connecting, in Miami's case).

[dfwabel]

1 hour ago, AstroBull21 said:

I assume in 4 months the goal isnt this..but maybe the beginning phases

The whole thing is still modular, with three stands just being tubular structures which you see at HS around the country. It's the double-tiered stand which is going to take the bulk of the construction time in terms of structural steel, concrete, plumbing, and wiring, but it is still modular itself.

 

The timeline they gave to the city was for a nine month construction period.

 

1 hour ago, Digby said:

That temporary stadium that Vancouver built before BC Place was ready ought to be the model. No idea how it was for the fans and players, of course, but it looked professional enough to suffice from afar and gave the team a good base to start with instead of being bogged down in bureaucratic nightmares. Seems a better solution than settling for a suburban erector set stadium like the teams before them, or the expensive Hail Marys that we're seeing now (that aren't connecting, in Miami's case).

Exactly.  Nussli can do this in eight weeks.

[gosioux76]

22 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

Here's a VERY interesting tidbit I just came across, and I haven't seen this posted anywhere else. 

 

 

Here's the article. MLS Expansion Update: 30 Teams, St. Louis, Sacramento, Austin

 

I almost feel like, if this is really true, MLS kinda owes it to Sacramento to give them the 28th spot after some of the they've been through trying to get this bid in order. St. Louis and Phoenix/Vegas/Whoever are pretty new to this, while it's been like a half decade for Sacramento. I can't see them placing St. Louis in the league ahead of Sacramento for $50 million less and that sitting well with, well, just about anyone. 

 

Unless I'm reading it wrong, he's apparently updated the story. 

 

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The odds of your city landing an Major League Soccer club just got a little bit better. After just last month announcing that it’s down to Sacramento and St. Louis for the 28th and final spot, MLS has bumped the number of teams getting in to 30. Teams 28 and 29 will have to pay a whopping $200 million expansion fee.

 

[FiddySicks]

Yeah it looks like he was mistaken and made an update. I thought that sounded strange, as I hadn’t seen it posted anywhere else, 

[Red Wolf]

SKC and New England played to a 4-4 draw in a game that I'm pretty sure killed soccer on this continent north of Mexico, so let's just go ahead and close this thread.

[JackieMoon]

FCC is starting to show their expansion woes...

 

Although I'm pretty sure the team is a damn myth, where as I can't watch them on the tele. At this point though, I'm pretty fluent with the Premier League and Bundesliga.

[MJWalker45]

1 hour ago, sohiosportsfreak said:

FCC is starting to show their expansion woes...

 

Although I'm pretty sure the team is a damn myth, where as I can't watch them on the tele. At this point though, I'm pretty fluent with the Premier League and Bundesliga.

I'm pretty sure FCC and DC United will be looking for new streaming partners next year.

[4_tattoos]

3 hours ago, MJWalker45 said:

I'm pretty sure FCC and DC United will be looking for new streaming partners next year.

Don't know about Cincy, but DCU signed on to a multi year deal with Flo. They're stuck unless there ends up being a loophole for them to exploit or a buyout option. Most DC United fans downright refuse to subscribe to the service, frequently pointing out several OTA broadcast and regional cable networks the club could/should have made a deal with over Flo.