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Lowkey hoping one of the players tries to play with IStandWithHongKong on the nameplate, but there's no way the league would allow it.

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5 hours ago, Krz said:

And Ja Morant has posted, and then apologized for an image that had his jersey saying f*** , with his number 12, which is a number commonly associated with cops.


I can certainly see the insightful direction this going in :rolleyes:.  Maybe jerseys are not the best place for Social Justice Statements... 

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Jazz social media said they're taking their white, blue and sunset jerseys only

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I don’t see how letting every player decide on which statement they want to broadcast can end well. There’s surely a player who would want to put something that would run counter to what most NBA players believe *cough* Spencer Hawes*cough*Gordon Hayward*cough*. And will they allow only US issues to replace players names? Something tells me the NBA wouldn’t be cool with someone replacing their last name with Free Honk Kong, Free Tibet  or Stand With Uyghurs. Or even someone like Kanter, who has been very vocal about the issues in his country, I’m guessing won’t be allowed to put even the slightest criticism of Erdogan on his jersey. The NBA is a global league and claims to be one, but if the only “freedom of expression” they allow is the one that is relevant to the US how is it freedom of expression or global? They’ll probably be better off working with the NBPA to give players a few allowed statements players can choose to replace their names, like Black Lives Matter or Wear Masks (incredibly sad that either has to be a statement because some people disagree), than giving every player “freedom of expression (as long as it doesn’t really hurt our bottom line)”

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So if you don't change it up and just go with your last name, does that mean you're racist and support institutional racism?    I like the idea but it essentially forces everyone to participate even if they would like to choose other ways to express their support for BLM or might feel like they're in a 'look at me' type situation and would rather not do it.

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9 hours ago, Germanshepherd said:

NBA not allowing names of deceased victims of police brutality on jerseys, per Marc J. Spears

And here I was thinking they'd do anything to please the NBPA lol

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1 hour ago, Bruhammydude said:

And here I was thinking they'd do anything to please the NBPA lol


there’s lots of legal issues with it. 

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6 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:


there’s lots of legal issues with it. 

I guess the victim's family felt it was disrespectful to pull a stunt like this.

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2 hours ago, Friedrich Stuart Macbeth said:

I guess the victim's family felt it was disrespectful to pull a stunt like this.

 

If we're talking about black people murdered by police, it's a lot of families to run by.

 

But not only that - in some of those cases, the officers were acquitted, even though any sane person knows that they beat and/or killed the person because they're little-dick racists.  Using the name of the victim in that case could possibly cause a libel suit from the officer who was acquitted, since the implication is that the victim was... well, a victim.  Which he or she obviously was, but legally wasn't.

 

I"m no lawyer, so maybe that's not a valid scenario, but it's probably not even worth taking that chance, even though it would certainly make a statement.

 

 

Another thing is that while the victims were murdered in what are essentially hate crimes, it's still an odd take to put the names of people that had been arrested up to 30 times (in one case) on a jersey, or in other cases, names of people who may have murdered others themselves.  It's a fine line between protesting institutional racism while also recognising that while none of the victims deserve to die, not every single one necessarily deserves to be honored with angel wings either.

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2 hours ago, Friedrich Stuart Macbeth said:

I guess the victim's family felt it was disrespectful to pull a stunt like this.

I think the driving point was the families of victims who would be left out

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It appears they're allowing teams to use their home courts for practice:

 

 

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5 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

Another thing is that while the victims were murdered in what are essentially hate crimes, it's still an odd take to put the names of people that had been arrested up to 30 times (in one case) on a jersey, or in other cases, names of people who may have murdered others themselves.  It's a fine line between protesting institutional racism while also recognising that while none of the victims deserve to die, not every single one necessarily deserves to be honored with angel wings either.

 

Part of the protests against institutional racism are examining how and why some people are disproportionately arrested compared to other people, and how society creates circumstances that make some people more likely to commit crimes than others.

 

The easy example is a lot of black people are in jail for selling weed while a lot of suburban white kids doing the same never have that fear. And getting popped for dealing when you're 19 has dramatically different life outcomes.

 

A harder example worth diving deeper is the prison to school pipeline.

 

It doesn't matter if a person deserves angel wings or not; it's not really worth bringing up. No one deserves extrajudicial execution, full stop.

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Yeah, I’m not a fan of this. It comes across as performative at best, and ultimately rings somewhat hollow. These gestures are nice on the surface, but they’re not really doing anything tangible to forward the cause IMO. 

 

The downside of this already seems like it’ll outweigh whatever benefit this is going to bring (probably not much more than extra cash in Nike’s pockets). 
 

Ultimately, these major corporations taking these hardline stances over social issues REALLY weirds me out. The whole entire point of companies that large is to make more money for themselves. The NBA, Coke, Chevrolet, EA Sports, and whoever the hell else is putting out these statements of “support” absolutely do not give a single :censored: about any of this. They care about separating people from their cash, regardless of their moral stances on things. All of this is nothing more than another marketing angle to get your dough. Right now, supporting social causes is good business, and that’s the only thing that matters. 

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I wonder if a simple patch would be the best way to go. Something they could either place on the jersey or maybe even on the shorts.

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On 7/2/2020 at 11:07 AM, AndrewMLind said:

It appears they're allowing teams to use their home courts for practice:

 

 

Very interesting. I know there were rumors about them being used for games, but that doesn't seem very feasible. What I am a little intrigued (?) by is the fact that Miami's Vice court is the one shown in the photo. Might mean nothing if these courts aren't actually used once the season resumes, but kinda interesting nonetheless. 

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