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If the lakers were the “away” team than they should be wearing purple. 
 

Since they’re not, I’m good with this. 

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3 minutes ago, the admiral said:

 

It's a big achievement as any world championship is (minus this upcoming World Series that we've all agreed is very much Less Than). There are challenges that are unique and old challenges that are missing. But what all this is really about is that when the playoffs were originally supposed to be happening, ESPN did a documentary about Michael Jordan and the '98 Bulls that most people seemed to think was pretty cool, but other people were in a state over because it dared to imply that Michael Jordan was better than LeBron James. This is unacceptable. Now, this Finals has to be elevated to the greatest achievement of all time solely in the name of glorifying LeBron James, who has been made a proxy for all black people while Jordan has been made a proxy for, if not white people themselves, for obvious reasons, then at least the now-disproven concept of a transcendent "post-racialism."

 

No, it's the Jordan fans (and the younger aging) who are thinner skinned.

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6 minutes ago, the admiral said:

 

It's a big achievement as any world championship is (minus this upcoming World Series that we've all agreed is very much Less Than). There are challenges that are unique and old challenges that are missing. But what all this is really about is that when the playoffs were originally supposed to be happening, ESPN did a documentary about Michael Jordan and the '98 Bulls that most people seemed to think was pretty cool, but other people were in a state over because it dared to imply that Michael Jordan was better than LeBron James. This is unacceptable. Now, this Finals has to be elevated to the greatest achievement of all time solely in the name of glorifying LeBron James, who has been made a proxy for all black people while Jordan has been made a proxy for, if not white people themselves, for obvious reasons, then at least the now-disproven concept of a transcendent "post-racialism."

 

Did not see that mid-post turn coming.

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2 hours ago, the admiral said:

 

It's a big achievement as any world championship is (minus this upcoming World Series that we've all agreed is very much Less Than). There are challenges that are unique and old challenges that are missing. But what all this is really about is that when the playoffs were originally supposed to be happening, ESPN did a documentary about Michael Jordan and the '98 Bulls that most people seemed to think was pretty cool, but other people were in a state over because it dared to imply that Michael Jordan was better than LeBron James. This is unacceptable. Now, this Finals has to be elevated to the greatest achievement of all time solely in the name of glorifying LeBron James, who has been made a proxy for all black people while Jordan has been made a proxy for, if not white people themselves, for obvious reasons, then at least the now-disproven concept of a transcendent "post-racialism."

 

Why would LeBron need a second "greatest championship of all time?" (People are gonna choose their narratives.)

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On 10/7/2020 at 8:49 PM, DG_ThenNowForever said:

Has anyone counted how many total official NBA jerseys LeBron has worn? It's in the dozens; I'm just curious how many dozens. Maybe 30ish? Even 40ish?

 

I've tried with help of @eibram site and here are my results (I hope I didn't miss any of HWC):

Starts with 24 in Cavs (he wore yellow 74-80 and orange 83-85 retros twice in his first and second stint respectively)

+ 16 in Miami

+ 6 in Lakers

+ 16 in All Star Game

= 62 total

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14 hours ago, truepg said:

I'm gonna say this and let the cat out of the bag. The Black Mamba unis are not bad per se, even though I liked the "Hollywood Nights" alternate a lot better, but they don't represent the Lakers nor Kobe very much to me. He hardly ever played in a black uniform and isn't associated with one. Those unis don't say "Kobe" to me at all.

 

What is more symbolizing of Kobe than wearing and winning in purple and gold? You could do so wearing a Kobe patch.

He’s the “Black Mamba” so the color and snake skin pattern definitely represent Kobe 

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3 hours ago, pepis21 said:

 

I've tried with help of @eibram site and here are my results (I hope I didn't miss any of HWC):

Starts with 24 in Cavs (he wore yellow 74-80 and orange 83-85 retros twice in his first and second stint respectively)

+ 16 in Miami

+ 6 in Lakers

+ 16 in All Star Game

= 62 total

 

24 seems low for Cleveland, but I believe it. Wow!

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12 hours ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said:

 

...which I don't disagree with, but other do. So question--what is the best alternate uniform worn in a Finals game? 

Without looking at other replies, I'm led to go with the Lakers white alternate, which they have worn in every Finals appearance since 2004 IIRC. Clean, straight forward, beautiful look...that's all that needs to be said. It was hard to really settle on one considering these facts:

  • Miami didn't use any of their alternates this year and maybe several times in the 4 appearances with James/Wade/Bosh
  • Set aside the memory of the last 5 mins, we can all agree that we'd give the Game 7 Cavs of 2016 a wardrobe change
  • The Spurs didn't wear alternates in any of their 6 appearances
  • Off the top of my head, I've only seen two teams win the trophy wearing alts (2016, 2019)

That's just a brief rundown of thoughts going through my head, but that's just it. At the very least, the door is open now going forward with Nike's hand in getting every team an alternate jersey.  Then again, it comes down to a team by team basis as we've seen with Miami leaving the Vice uniforms in the regular season drawer, for instance. We're going to see more memorable moments in Finals history with possibly the Bucks in their black fear-the-deer jerseys or (hopefully, one day) the Clippers in their white San Andreas-inspired uniforms. Feels inevitable at this point, especially if parity runs rampant in a post-LeBron NBA.

 

Side note: Was the '95 Magic the first to wear alternate jerseys in an NBA Finals game? I'm led to believe that at the moment.

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1 hour ago, TheBigFiz21 said:

Side note: Was the '95 Magic the first to wear alternate jerseys in an NBA Finals game? I'm led to believe that at the moment.


I could be completely wrong, but if I remember correctly, Orlando may have designated the blue uniform to be the primary road uniform by that time (switching the black to alternate status). If that is indeed true, then...I’m thinking New Jersey in 2002 (grey alternates) would have been the first? 

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9 hours ago, dont care said:

He’s the “Black Mamba” so the color and snake skin pattern definitely represent Kobe 

 

It's obvious they're meant to represent his nickname, but color black and snake skin aren't visually associated with Kobe the Lakers player.

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7 hours ago, TheBigFiz21 said:

Without looking at other replies, I'm led to go with the Lakers white alternate, which they have worn in every Finals appearance since 2004 IIRC. Clean, straight forward, beautiful look...that's all that needs to be said. It was hard to really settle on one considering these facts:

  • Miami didn't use any of their alternates this year and maybe several times in the 4 appearances with James/Wade/Bosh
  • Set aside the memory of the last 5 mins, we can all agree that we'd give the Game 7 Cavs of 2016 a wardrobe change
  • The Spurs didn't wear alternates in any of their 6 appearances
  • Off the top of my head, I've only seen two teams win the trophy wearing alts (2016, 2019)

That's just a brief rundown of thoughts going through my head, but that's just it. At the very least, the door is open now going forward with Nike's hand in getting every team an alternate jersey.  Then again, it comes down to a team by team basis as we've seen with Miami leaving the Vice uniforms in the regular season drawer, for instance. We're going to see more memorable moments in Finals history with possibly the Bucks in their black fear-the-deer jerseys or (hopefully, one day) the Clippers in their white San Andreas-inspired uniforms. Feels inevitable at this point, especially if parity runs rampant in a post-LeBron NBA.

 

Side note: Was the '95 Magic the first to wear alternate jerseys in an NBA Finals game? I'm led to believe that at the moment.

 

The Heat won the ‘06 championship in alternate red unis.

 

NBA Alt unis were first unveiled in 94-95 I think, so yeah Orlando was the first team to wear them in the Finals

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8 hours ago, TheBigFiz21 said:

Side note: Was the '95 Magic the first to wear alternate jerseys in an NBA Finals game? I'm led to believe that at the moment.

 

6 hours ago, FinsUp1214 said:


I could be completely wrong, but if I remember correctly, Orlando may have designated the blue uniform to be the primary road uniform by that time (switching the black to alternate status). If that is indeed true, then...I’m thinking New Jersey in 2002 (grey alternates) would have been the first? 

That is true. The blue jerseys were promoted to primary for the 94-95 season, and the black was made an alternate. The Nets would be the first... kind of surprising that no one in the 90s did it.

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20 hours ago, the admiral said:

 

It's a big achievement as any world championship is (minus this upcoming World Series that we've all agreed is very much Less Than). There are challenges that are unique and old challenges that are missing. But what all this is really about is that when the playoffs were originally supposed to be happening, ESPN did a documentary about Michael Jordan and the '98 Bulls that most people seemed to think was pretty cool, but other people were in a state over because it dared to imply that Michael Jordan was better than LeBron James. This is unacceptable. Now, this Finals has to be elevated to the greatest achievement of all time solely in the name of glorifying LeBron James, who has been made a proxy for all black people while Jordan has been made a proxy for, if not white people themselves, for obvious reasons, then at least the now-disproven concept of a transcendent "post-racialism."

 

Guys can we talk about sports jerseys?

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4 hours ago, Magic Dynasty said:

That is true. The blue jerseys were promoted to primary for the 94-95 season, and the black was made an alternate. The Nets would be the first... kind of surprising that no one in the 90s did it.

 

I don't think that's true. The blue jerseys were unveiled that year along with the other NBA alternate jerseys (ie-Charlotte, Atlanta, Phoenix, etc.). The black jersey was still the main road jersey, but they were so popular the Magic wore them almost exclusively during their playoff run.

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FWIW - and I understand the mothership isn’t always right - the mothership lists Orlando’s blue jersey as the primary road uniform from 1994/95-1997/98 (and includes a note about the black being reassigned to the alternate):

 

https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/01nealhcbhasx2fm05leh8lhb/Orlando_Magic/1995/Road_Uniform

 

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1 minute ago, FinsUp1214 said:

FWIW - and I understand the mothership isn’t always right - the mothership lists Orlando’s blue jersey as the primary road uniform from 1994/95-1997/98 (and includes a note about the black being reassigned to the alternate):

 

https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/01nealhcbhasx2fm05leh8lhb/Orlando_Magic/1995/Road_Uniform

 

So does the NBA jersey datbase(which is still incomplete)

https://nbajerseydatabase.tumblr.com/post/621218924964593664/orlando-magic-1994-1998-record-with-just-the-new

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4 hours ago, FinsUp1214 said:

FWIW - and I understand the mothership isn’t always right - the mothership lists Orlando’s blue jersey as the primary road uniform from 1994/95-1997/98 (and includes a note about the black being reassigned to the alternate):

 

https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/01nealhcbhasx2fm05leh8lhb/Orlando_Magic/1995/Road_Uniform

 

 

From a Getty Images search (I was just searching later months of 1994 and early months of 1995), the first time the Magic wore the blue jersey was February 1995 January 11, 1995 in Cleveland (edit: I think it's a really inaccurate caption on Getty; Cleveland played in Orlando on 1/11/94, and Orlando played in Cleveland on 12/6/1994 and 2/15/1995). 

Here's a link to the photo (I don't think we can directly post Getty images on here): 

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/anfernee-hardaway-of-the-orlando-magic-drives-to-the-basket-news-photo/52035852?adppopup=true

 

This picture shows the Dec 6, 1994 matchup in Cleveland (accurately dated by Getty I hope), with Orlando wearing black, so the blue jerseys must have been worn in February. 

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/general-overall-view-of-the-game-between-the-cleveland-news-photo/635154070?adppopup=true

 

The Magic started wearing the blue jerseys regularly in March 1995. 

 

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Welp, glad we spilled all those pixels on the Lakers switching to the black jerseys.

 

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19 hours ago, truepg said:

 

It's obvious they're meant to represent his nickname, but color black and snake skin aren't visually associated with Kobe the Lakers player.

 

He designed it himself.  I'm sure he thought that it would represents or associate with his image somehow.  Also, as others have mentioned, he wore the Hollywood Nights jersey.

 

When I see the FloJo designed Pacers jersey, I think of Reggie Miller and FloJo, even if she never wore yellow or blue in her track career. 

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