oldschoolvikings Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Red Comet said: If Robert Kraft (or anyone involved) knew that those women were trafficked into the country for prostitution and still went ahead and used their forced services, then yes, I would classify such a person as a sexual predator. We'll, that's not what he was charged with. The police have said that the sex trafficking sting and the solicitation arrests are two separate things. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said: We'll, that's not what he was charged with. The police have said that the sex trafficking sting and the solicitation arrests are two separate things. I didn't say Robert Kraft was involved with the trafficking of women, I'm saying he used the services of women forced into prostitution. If he knew that the women he was paying were forced into that trade, then he's equivalent to a rapist IMO. If he was using the services of a woman that willingly sells her body for money, I wouldn't care at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 So Witten will come out of retirement to play one more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, dfwabel said: So Witten will come out of retirement to play one more season. Makes the Cowboys worse and MNF better. Nice. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp49 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, DG_Now said: Makes the Cowboys worse and MNF better. Nice. Sounds like a win win to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 7:26 PM, Red Comet said: I didn't say Robert Kraft was involved with the trafficking of women, I'm saying he used the services of women forced into prostitution. If he knew that the women he was paying were forced into that trade, then he's equivalent to a rapist IMO. If he was using the services of a woman that willingly sells her body for money, I wouldn't care at all. I really doubt him or hardly any of the people charged knew they were being sex trafficked. From what I’ve read a lot of them are members of the same golf club, likely someone went got a happy ending told his buddies about the place because it can be a fantasy to some. And then it just went from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I'm curious to hear how all these solid gold toilet types explain why so many of them ended up at random strip mall massage parlors next to Little Caesars or whatever. I know billionaires are people, too, but it seems like a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, dont care said: I really doubt him or hardly any of the people charged knew they were being sex trafficked. From what I’ve read a lot of them are members of the same golf club, likely someone went got a happy ending told his buddies about the place because it can be a fantasy to some. And then it just went from there. However, Kraft and the others went to the location not because those women wouldn't talk like an escort had the possibility to and blackmail them, they went there because those women COULDN'T talk. Those women were completely powerless and every one of those men knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, dfwabel said: However, Kraft and the others went to the location not because those women wouldn't talk like an escort had the possibility to and blackmail them, they went there because those women COULDN'T talk. Those women were completely powerless and every one of those men knew that. And you know they knew this how exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, dont care said: And you know they knew this how exactly? This entire investigation began with complaints regarding potential health code violations. Health Inspectors checked it out, they said the whole operation looked sketchy and turned it over to the Sheriff's Department. Granted, there are men/women across America who were properly zoned and lived where they do business. In this case, women were basically sleeping aside their rice cooker. Depending on the locale and zoning ordinances, using your place of business as a residence for your employees is not always legal. Some folks also get their leg up in life by cramming 12 people into a one-bedroom apartment, which is also often illegal. Kraft and former Citigroup CEO John Havens did not go there due to its location, they went there because of its silence. Not because it was "cheap" to them, but because of the fact they were still in control and they believed they were still in control of the situation and had the power over those women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, dfwabel said: This entire investigation began with complaints regarding potential health code violations. Health Inspectors checked it out, they said the whole operation looked sketchy and turned it over to the Sheriff's Department. Granted, there are men/women across America who were properly zoned and lived where they do business. In this case, women were basically sleeping aside their rice cooker. Depending on the locale and zoning ordinances, using your place of business as a residence for your employees is not always legal. Some folks also get their leg up in life by cramming 12 people into a one-bedroom apartment, which is also often illegal. Kraft and former Citigroup CEO John Havens did not go there due to its location, they went there because of its silence. Not because it was "cheap" to them, but because of the fact they were still in control and they believed they were still in control of the situation and had the power over those women. Once again how do you know they knew this, everything you said could have been completely out of view of customers and most likely was just to try and prevent what ended up happening to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalcowboyfan92 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 20 hours ago, dfwabel said: So Witten will come out of retirement to play one more season. I think he's coming back solely because of how terrible he was in the MNF booth. I think he has a future as a coach in the NFL, not as an announcer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 There's something that needs to be remembered when it comes to the idea of "[Player X] may be a future coach" or related stuff: Coaches tend to work more hours each week than players. Coaches, especially once you go down past the ranks of O and D-Coordinator, tend to make peanuts (sure, an ex-player probably doesn't need the money but broadcast jobs, for contrast, tend to pay much better). And, as a coach, whether it be a positional coach or one of the more glamor positions, you have to deal with petulant :censored:s everyday. Not to mention that, in many cases, a player retires because they wish to spend more time with their family. Well, if you're spending 80 hours a week at the facilities and traveling with the team when they go away from home, guess what you're not doing? No, don't need to spell it out Point being, unless you're talking coordinator level or above, and I mean right out of the gates as a coach, then either you're doing it because it's truly a labor of love or because you don't have any other kind of life worth living. Frankly, the way I hear these stories about what goes into football coaching, I can't help but think that I would be burned the :censored: out in pretty much no-time flat. Doesn't sound like fun at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 WELP https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2019/3/2/18247426/2019-los-angeles-rams-nfl-todd-gurley-knee-injury-playoffs-super-bowl On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 hours ago, rams80 said: WELP https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2019/3/2/18247426/2019-los-angeles-rams-nfl-todd-gurley-knee-injury-playoffs-super-bowl That's the worst news he could receive. A tear or bruising can be repaired, arthritis is a different story. Hopefully they can get a program together to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The Redskins potentially trading for Cardinals QB Josh Rosen is a really good move in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcake Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 12:23 PM, DNAsports said: The Redskins potentially trading for Cardinals QB Josh Rosen is a really good move in my mind. Listen, I hate to be "that guy," but there's no way the Cards are trading Rosen. He was a top tier prospect last year, one season of bad coaching and little support around him doesn't change that. The idea that the Cardinals would give up on a potential suitor after one year because of some comment Kliff Kingsbury made a year ago is ludicrous imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Crabcake47 said: Listen, I hate to be "that guy," but there's no way the Cards are trading Rosen. He was a top tier prospect last year, one season of bad coaching and little support around him doesn't change that. The idea that the Cardinals would give up on a potential suitor after one year because of some comment Kliff Klingsbury made a year ago is ludicrous imo. Might sound ludicrous, but there’s been a lot of rumors coming out here that’s the case. Not only Klif, but also Bidwell and Kevin are high on Murray at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 8:42 PM, Gary. said: Might sound ludicrous, but there’s been a lot of rumors coming out here that’s the case. Not only Klif, but also Bidwell and Kevin are high on Murray at the moment. With Charlie Casserly saying teams were disappointed with how Murray interviewed is it possible they're just trying to get someone to cone take the #1 pick off their hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Wolf Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 11:23 AM, DNAsports said: The Redskins potentially trading for Cardinals QB Josh Rosen is a really good move in my mind. If the Redskins are doing it then it's probably the worst move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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