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Nikes been knocking it out of the park as of late. UConn has great color balance. Solid look for a team thats future is in doubt

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If your athletic department is $41 million in debt, it's time to fold your non-competitive football program.  Is athletic department debt like that common?

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It’s time to fold everything but club sports, at that point.  It’s clear that UConn’s priorities are seriously out of whack. 

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Shame they took down their old stadium. Could join the Mac with UMass for football only and cut expenses to the bone. 

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2 hours ago, mjd77 said:

If your athletic department is $41 million in debt, it's time to fold your non-competitive football program.  Is athletic department debt like that common?

Yes.  But even debt is not always a negative.  All of the public schools in the Big XII carry debt, mostly because they finance construction projects with bonds they must pay off and have the revenues to fulfill the debt. Case in point, the University of Texas generates over $200M in revenue annually, but still has over $190M in debt.  OTOH, in 2017, North Texas had $63M in department debt but also saw each sport operate at a financial loss only to be bailed out with student fees and direct university support. 

 

If they are not considered a university department, but rather an auxiliary and self-financing, they may be in debt to the university itself.

 

As for budget deficits from year to year, that is common too.  UConn is pretty unique.

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On 6/21/2019 at 8:23 PM, BJ Sands said:

That’s what the Browns should’ve done. 

 

These are great. 

 

How do copyright laws work?  Would the Browns be able to steal this look in a couple years?  Or is there some sort of restrictions/patents? 

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Copyright laws wouldn't be the issue. Nike tripping over their own dick and not wanting to stick an NFL team in a look they made for a college team would be the only hurdle.

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2 hours ago, CLEstones said:

 

How do copyright laws work?  Would the Browns be able to steal this look in a couple years?  Or is there some sort of restrictions/patents? 

 

Generally copyright law doesn't apply to fashion outside of certain specific, unique textile designs.

 

Trademark wouldn't really apply here either because while a team technically could argue something like trade dress, simply wearing those stripes the way they do is in no way unique (Hell, the Browns wore a look like this long before Syracuse). The Browns look also would have many elements that would make it instantly recognizable as not being the Syracuse look (color, logos, potentially team name on the jersey, nfl branding, etc.). There are potentially elements that could be trademarked if they are in fact unique, like the color scheme, but a different team at a completely different level of football wearing a different color scheme won't be confused with Syracuse.

 

Patents have nothing to do with anything here.

 

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1 hour ago, CLEstones said:

 

How do copyright laws work?  Would the Browns be able to steal this look in a couple years?  Or is there some sort of restrictions/patents? 

If multiple colleges can use the same jersey design (Ohio State's old jerseys and Iowa's), a pro team using it shouldn't be an issue. I could see tehm changing the pattern slightly for the jerseys and pants to fit the Browns though. 

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Cal is also in serious financial trouble with their stadium renovation they did. They decided to pay for it through people purchasing PSL's...a horrible plan not done by any other place building a stadium. Results in 18m+ a year that must be paid on stadium debt for next 15-25 years 

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57 minutes ago, djam2410 said:

Cal is also in serious financial trouble with their stadium renovation they did. They decided to pay for it through people purchasing PSL's...a horrible plan not done by any other place building a stadium. Results in 18m+ a year that must be paid on stadium debt for next 15-25 years 

 

Here's a good article https://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2017/1/5/14172010/california-golden-bears-athletics-debt-service-finances-revenue

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12 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

Shame they took down their old stadium. Could join the Mac with UMass for football only and cut expenses to the bone. 

UMass hasn't been in the MAC since 2015, I'm pretty sure they're Independent.

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On 6/22/2019 at 9:21 PM, dont care said:

It’s always been orange, navy, and white, they just never wore mono orange until recently. 

 

Syracuse wore mono orange from 1949-1951 and again in 1958.  Coach Ben Schwartzwalder thought the all-orange look helped camouflage the football when his team was on offense, giving them an advantage.

 

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On 6/21/2019 at 8:22 PM, RyanMcD29 said:

🚨 SYRACUSE ATHLETICS HAS ACTUALLY PULLED OFF A GREAT REBRAND 🚨

(updated with new tweet due to SU Football putting down the first tweet for some reason)

That's pretty much a perfect uniform set. Well done, Syracuse.

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UCONN looks great but I would love to see a little red.

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2 hours ago, Echo said:

 

Syracuse wore mono orange from 1949-1951 and again in 1958.  Coach Ben Schwartzwalder thought the all-orange look helped camouflage the football when his team was on offense, giving them an advantage.

 

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If only Coach had come up with the idea of orange turf...

 

 

(I'll show myself out)

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6 hours ago, Lafarge said:

 

Generally copyright law doesn't apply to fashion outside of certain specific, unique textile designs.

 

Trademark wouldn't really apply here either because while a team technically could argue something like trade dress, simply wearing those stripes the way they do is in no way unique (Hell, the Browns wore a look like this long before Syracuse). The Browns look also would have many elements that would make it instantly recognizable as not being the Syracuse look (color, logos, potentially team name on the jersey, nfl branding, etc.). There are potentially elements that could be trademarked if they are in fact unique, like the color scheme, but a different team at a completely different level of football wearing a different color scheme won't be confused with Syracuse.

 

Patents have nothing to do with anything here.

 

 

Pretty much this. Trademark law absolutely applies here, but as you mention, in applying the law, there are issues as to whether any of the teams have a legally recognizable claim to a trade dress.

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2 hours ago, Echo said:

 

Syracuse wore mono orange from 1949-1951 and again in 1958.  Coach Ben Schwartzwalder thought the all-orange look helped camouflage the football when his team was on offense, giving them an advantage.

 

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Is that 68 on the back of the helmet athletic tape? Also, Jim Brown with the original Otto Graham facemask, I'd never seen that before. 

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