Mac the Knife Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 that internet archive you used to find the old logo really helped - now you are in total control - isnt that a great feeling? lol Actually it wouldn't have mattered; it was the original logo on our own server that seems to have made it clear to them that we own the design.Total control or no, we're going to be reasonable about this. While I wasn't thinking about a licensing arrangement when I first learned of this situation, I realize that their organization isn't that far removed from our own, and as such I've informally discussed with our Board of Directors (who, initially, literally wanted to sue them into oblivion) options that could allow them to use the mark while at the same time generating us some revenue from something we barely even use anymore.But, should they choose to stop using it, that would be fine as well; I made the offer to license based on the PITA it would be for them to remove it from everything (and, presumably, replace it with something else) in time for their upcoming title game in Edmonton.I'm not heartless, ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 the team bought the logo from me and then sued the uniform manufacturer who sold it to them originally (the same group that did my team's uniforms -click, the light goes on) And did you, in turn, file a suit of your own against the outfit that did your uniforms? I for one think you should have. If it didn't break 'em, it at least would ensure that they'd never, ever do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notch Novelty Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Now, does this have anything to do with high school sports because anywhere you go a team will be using an NFL logo in any high school football league. I can name a couple just in my area. Why are they allowed and not semi-pro team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 They aren't, unless they get permission from the club in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 there's got to be some kind of agreement between the NCAA, NFL and these manufacturers. Something like as long as its not for profit (i.e. High Schools) the logos in question can be used. I say this only because the only time you ever really hear about the larger coming down on the smaller is Notre Dame, who has a completely different licencing agreement than the rest of the NCAA. If I'm thinking correctly, at least half of the teams in my conference in HS AND in College used a NFL/NCAA logo exact with different colors, or a very similar variation of them. Salt Fork High I know used the 49ers oval with SF in it, they j ust put them on silver helmets instead of gold....Illinois Weslyan used the Wisconsin "W"....etc...Anyway, its only right if they've been given permission.Also, how owns the rights to an image once its made? If you design a logo for a small time hockey team, its their property to do with what the please correct? Unless another agreement is made that is....or am I wrong?peace,pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 Also, how owns the rights to an image once its made? If you design a logo for a small time hockey team, its their property to do with what the please correct? Unless another agreement is made that is....or am I wrong? Correct. It's considered a "work for hire" under the Berne Convention and U.S. Copyright law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynnagain Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 the team bought the logo from me and then sued the uniform manufacturer who sold it to them originally (the same group that did my team's uniforms -click, the light goes on) And did you, in turn, file a suit of your own against the outfit that did your uniforms? I for one think you should have. If it didn't break 'em, it at least would ensure that they'd never, ever do it again. I should have but no.....the team got a pretty good settlement from what i heard...my team still retained the rights to use the logo...sometimes the legal battle can be more than it's worth.....picking your battles is key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyfan36 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 the high school - nfl thingmy high school's logo was the minnesota vikings logo - just in red and gold instead of purple and gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJR Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 My high school's was the Vikings' logo as well, just in orange and black. FantasyHockeySim.com || DetroitHockey.Net || DetroitHockey.Net FHL || cjr.dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 So does that mean high schools in general can get away with using these logos? Is it because they don't "profit" from it. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCScout76 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 My team, that I coach, we use the Iowa State Cyclone Logo for our 8th grade team. As long as we are not using it to 'profit' we can continue to use it.We are the Cardinals, and it's a great looking logo on our helmet.  Kansas City Scouts (CHL) Orr Cup Champions 2010, 2019, 2021     St. Joseph Pony Express (ULL)  2023 Champions   Kansas City Cattle (CL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyfan36 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 did anyone plan on making the banner "boycott the semi-pro's" ?just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grish Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Did the final results ever get posted? "Try not to have a good time ... This is supposed to be educational."- Charles Schulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I know that the high school that I went to used the Patriots logo for their helmet and jersey but the helmet was white instead of gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 Did the final results ever get posted? There aren't any final results yet to report. Our Board of Directors is meeting tonight to consider a request made by the Milton Marauders. Once that's done I'll give an update of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyfan36 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 who is on the board of directors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 who is on the board of directors? I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyfan36 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 i meant our board of directors - and besides, thats the board of NHL directors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 i meant our board of directors - and besides, thats the board of NHL directors Crap! Wrong picture I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted August 27, 2004 Author Share Posted August 27, 2004 i meant our board of directors - and besides, thats the board of NHL directors Who's "our?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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