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Honestly, if anyone should’ve switched leagues, it should’ve been the Diamondbacks. Astros to the NL West and AZ to the AL West. They had a World Series in the NL West, but I still feel like they haven’t really established much of a rivalry in the NL that anyone would really miss. The rivalry with the Dodgers is as fabricated as can be (and could be easily replicated with the Angels), and NOBODY is gonna miss 20+ Diamondbacks Rockies games a season. Houston has a bit of a history with the NL West already, anyway.

 

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For the love of Jimmy Carter just eliminate interlague play and the wild card. Go back to the 1969-1993 4 division format. If you don't win your division: TOUGH

 

 

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Since 2011 there has been an NL Central team in the NLCS, and has been either the Brewers, Cardinals, or Cubs.  And tbh, for a Milwaukee perspective, the division is a 3-team rivalry between those three with the Reds and Pirates bringing up the rear.  The Brewers arent going anywhere.  

 

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Anyways, heres a 32 team realignment, 4 total divisions of 8 teams each, Montreal and Portland being the (hypothetical) expansion teams.

 

NL Central-St Louis, Milwaukee, Chicago Cubs, Colorado, Chicago White Sox Sox, Kansas City, Minnesota, Houston

NL West- Oakland, LA Angels, LA Dodgers, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, San Diego, Arizona

AL South- Miami, Tampa Bay, Texas, Atlanta, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia

AL East- Montreal, Toronto, Boston, New York Yankees, New York Mets, Baltimore, Washington, Detroit

 

Its not perfect at all but the main focus was intra-state rivalries (with the exception of Houston and Texas) and keeping games in good time zones for teams (Houston and Texas dont have divisional games in the Pacific time zone anymore).  The Central and West would have to be in the same league because intra league games between an east division and a west division would be a mess.  Colorado would also be forced to the Central because youd have 8 other teams more Western. 

 

Also, a Tampa Bay possible relocation to Nashville would mean Houston and Nashville could swap places (Houston moving to Texas' division for another intra-division, intra-state rivalry, while Nashville would be with other centrally located teams).  A Oakland possible relocation to Charlotte would mean Colorado moves to the West, Detoit moves to the Central, and Charlotte moves to the East.

 

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for many years the world series jersey sleeve patches were embroidered, like the  team logo and scripts. looked nice.

Then they were chromaflex , that weird metallic like patch...... okay, but now, they are just shiny plastic!?

What the hell?

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9 hours ago, itsmb8 said:

Since 2011 there has been an NL Central team in the NLCS, and has been either the Brewers, Cardinals, or Cubs.  And tbh, for a Milwaukee perspective, the division is a 3-team rivalry between those three with the Reds and Pirates bringing up the rear.  The Brewers arent going anywhere.  

 

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The 2010s have been a decade of success for the NL Central. Every team, but the Pirates, won a division title. The Pirates had some very good teams that couldn’t make it past the Wild Card game. The Reds appear to be in position to be very competitive in 2020. 
 

In a related note, every team in the AL East won a division title during the 2010s. 

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13 hours ago, daveindc said:

Here's my predictions for division realignment after expansion and relocation is done:

 

NL East- DC, Philly, Mets, Montreal

NL North- Pitt, Cubs, StL, Mil

NL South- Cinc, Atl, Mia, Charlotte (or Nashville)

NL West- SF, Dodgers, SD, Ariz

AL East- Bos, Yanks, Tor, Bal

AL North- Det, Chisox, Minn, Cle

AL South- Col, KC, Tex, Hou

AL West- Sea, Portland, Oak (or Vegas), Angels

Switch Charlotte and Colorado and it makes sense. No need to move the Rockies to the AL when I new team can take the spot

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I should add that the Houston Astros had some years this decade in the NL Central, and they were not successful. With that said, I think they’ve turned out ok. 

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I don't understand why people get worked up over league arrangements and the wild card, neither of which address interminably long games and the fact that "three true outcomes" is boring.

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16 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

Honestly, if anyone should’ve switched leagues, it should’ve been the Diamondbacks. Astros to the NL West and AZ to the AL West. They had a World Series in the NL West, but I still feel like they haven’t really established much of a rivalry in the NL that anyone would really miss. The rivalry with the Dodgers is as fabricated as can be (and could be easily replicated with the Angels), and NOBODY is gonna miss 20+ Diamondbacks Rockies games a season. Houston has a bit of a history with the NL West already, anyway.

 

 

I've never understood why the Diamondbacks didn't make the switch, rather than the Astros. The AL is relatively light on teams west of the Rockies, especially given that the two West Coast powerhouses (Dodgers and Giants) are in the NL. And the D-Backs didn't have a 50 year history in the NL.

 

Granted, if the D-Backs did move to the AL, the Astros would've had to move to the NL West to even out the divisions. But I think Houston in the NL West (where they were pre-1994) is much more natural than in the AL West.

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13 minutes ago, kroywen said:

 

I've never understood why the Diamondbacks didn't make the switch, rather than the Astros.

The Astros were going through an ownership change that MLB was able to use as leverage in approving the sale. I assume Arizona may have been approached and said, "No thanks."

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14 minutes ago, kroywen said:

 

I've never understood why the Diamondbacks didn't make the switch, rather than the Astros. The AL is relatively light on teams west of the Rockies, especially given that the two West Coast powerhouses (Dodgers and Giants) are in the NL. And the D-Backs didn't have a 50 year history in the NL.

 

Granted, if the D-Backs did move to the AL, the Astros would've had to move to the NL West to even out the divisions. But I think Houston in the NL West (where they were pre-1994) is much more natural than in the AL West.

 

Some might also suggest Colorado for the AL switch, since they've not won a World Series title and the Phoenix metro area was the home of the Giants' AAA affiliate for almost four decades. IIRC, the Bears and Zephyrs went between AL and NL affiliates over the years.

 

Also, DH in Coors Field! 

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11 minutes ago, cajunaggie08 said:

The Astros were going through an ownership change that MLB was able to use as leverage in approving the sale. I assume Arizona may have been approached and said, "No thanks."

 

Yeah that's pretty much it. I think MLB either had issues finding teams who would willingly switch leagues, or they just never even got to that point because the Astros ownership change gave them an easy path to that. 

 

I remember back when there was talk of the league contracting teams (Twins and Expos), there was talk that the Diamondbacks would be moved to the AL, but that never came to fruition.   

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24 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

Yeah that's pretty much it. I think MLB either had issues finding teams who would willingly switch leagues, or they just never even got to that point because the Astros ownership change gave them an easy path to that. 

 

I remember back when there was talk of the league contracting teams (Twins and Expos), there was talk that the Diamondbacks would be moved to the AL, but that never came to fruition.   

 

That was a condition of expansion - MLB reserved the right to move them to the AL in their first five or ten years of play (can't remember which).  But that elapsed before baseball was ready to exercise it.  And, as noted, it's easy to include a league transfer as a condition of sale.

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With the Padres going back to brown and gold and the rumor that the Brewers will be getting new uniforms as well (the assumption being that both will be upgrades over their current threads), 2020 might be the first season in a long time when every Major League team has a solid look, with the possible exception of the Marlins, who need a few tweaks. 

 

When would you all say is the last year that every team in the league looked good? 

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1 minute ago, coco1997 said:

When would you all say is the last year that every team in the league looked good? 

 

Early 90s, I'd guess.  Unless you're willing to go as far back as the 1940s.

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9 minutes ago, coco1997 said:

With the Padres going back to brown and gold and the rumor that the Brewers will be getting new uniforms as well (the assumption being that both will be upgrades over their current threads), 2020 might be the first season in a long time when every Major League team has a solid look, with the possible exception of the Marlins, who need a few tweaks. 

 

When would you all say is the last year that every team in the league looked good? 

 

Also, Arizona's look is still a mess.

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10 minutes ago, coco1997 said:

With the Padres going back to brown and gold and the rumor that the Brewers will be getting new uniforms as well (the assumption being that both will be upgrades over their current threads), 2020 might be the first season in a long time when every Major League team has a solid look, with the possible exception of the Marlins, who need a few tweaks. 

 

When would you all say is the last year that every team in the league looked good? 


I would argue that the Diamondbacks need some changes. 

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13 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

 

Early 90s, I'd guess.  Unless you're willing to go as far back as the 1940s.

I would say maybe 1993 or 1994 but I may be forgetting about a certain look that didn't like

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If the Brewers and Padres unveil uniforms that are widely accepted, will there be a reason for this board to exist? (Sarcasm)

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