SportsLogos.Net News Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Lawsuit Can Proceed for Owners of St Louis Rams Merchandise February 7, 2019 - 16:57 PMHave you ever spent money on a new jersey or ballcap from your favourite team only to see the team relocate just a few years or even months later? I know I sure did, granted it was for the Montreal […] Read More... Sports Logo and Uniform news, rumours, and history at SportsLogos.Net News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenaciousG Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 As much as I would LOVE to see Kroenke pay, I don’t think there’s much merit to this except for maybe the people who bought merch between the end of the last season and the relocation. To the Rams’ credit, at least they didn’t do a redesign of their jerseys in the years leading up to relocation. I bet that’s something an owner will try to do someday My teamsNCAA: Washington StateMLB: Seattle MarinersNFL: Seattle SeahawksNBA: Portland TrailblazersEPL: Liverpool FCMLS: Seattle Sounders FCNHL: Pittsburgh Penguins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalieboy82 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 this is going to be interesting. i know i bought some XFL trading cards back in 2001 (after they said it wasn't coming back). can i sue the WWE then (not going to but give someone half a chance they will like this). so long and thanks for all the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, goalieboy82 said: this is going to be interesting. i know i bought some XFL trading cards back in 2001 (after they said it wasn't coming back). can i sue the WWE then (not going to but give someone half a chance they will like this). That's a good point - there's an argument that "St. Louis Rams" merchandise became more valuable after the move, not less. Still, sour grapes, St. Louis. Sour grapes. Time to suck it up. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 So, if Jeff Carter gets traded at the deadline can I sue the Kings for buying an alternate with his name on it? Stupid logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoknight Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 This sets a dangerous precedent. If fans can go after teams for moving or changing names, than MiLB is about to become Lawsuit Thunderdome. 5th in NAT. TITLES | 2nd in CONF. TITLES | 5th in HEISMAN | 7th in DRAFTS | 8th in ALL-AMER | 7th in WINS | 4th in BOWLS | 1st in SELLOUTS | 1st GAMEDAY SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC985 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 This lawsuit seems silly, but the NFL and Stan Kroenke lied to the City of St. Louis and the fans that continued to support a purposely bad team. For that, I hope they get every penny possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Brandon9485 said: This lawsuit seems silly, but the NFL and Stan Kroenke lied to the City of St. Louis and the fans that continued to support a purposely bad team. For that, I hope they get every penny possible. Nonsense. The Rams made it clear for years that they were going to hold St. Louis to the terms of the contract they all signed. And even then the Commissioner personally intervened to delay the legitimate move for a year even after it was clear the city had no intention of living up to its end of the bargain. And on top of all that, St. Louis only got a team because they lured one away from another city with promises they wouldn’t keep. St. Louis has only St. Louis to blame for the whole mess. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC985 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Nonsense. The Rams made it clear for years that they were going to hold St. Louis to the terms of the contract they all signed. And even then the Commissioner personally intervened to delay the legitimate move for a year even after it was clear the city had no intention of living up to its end of the bargain. And on top of all that, St. Louis only got a team because they lured one away from another city with promises they wouldn’t keep. St. Louis has only St. Louis to blame for the whole mess. Not entirely true. Yes, the Rams held the City of St. Louis to the terms of a poorly written lease agreement, and that’s fair. I disagree that St. Louis has no intention of living up to there end of things. They offered the Rams a brand new publicly funded stadium. The deal was done outside the Rams saying yes. This is on top of the fact that once Stan Kroenke became majority owner in 2010, the team went into rapid decline. They did not have a winning season and kept Jeff Fisher as a head coach despite the wide held opinion nationally that he was terrible. He was asked about relocation in his initial interview with the Rams (he moved with the Oilers) and was fired half-way through the Rams first season in LA. I take issue with all of the talk by Kroenke and the NFL that they wanted to stay in St. Louis when their actions told a very different story. The PSL owners are going to get millions back and I say let merchandise buyers too. You can’t question the support the city and fans gave that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 The league didn't want the Rams to move to St. Louis, the Rams shouldn't have been in St. Louis, just call off anything about the injustices of the Rams leaving St. Louis. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hormone Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I want to sue directv and the Buccaneers. I buy Sunday ticket each year to watch them, but they have been so bad the past few seasons, I barely watch past halftime so I feel I’m getting cheated out of my purchases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewharrington Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Brandon9485 said: Not entirely true. Yes, the Rams held the City of St. Louis to the terms of a poorly written lease agreement, and that’s fair. I disagree that St. Louis has no intention of living up to there end of things. They offered the Rams a brand new publicly funded stadium. The deal was done outside the Rams saying yes. This is on top of the fact that once Stan Kroenke became majority owner in 2010, the team went into rapid decline. They did not have a winning season and kept Jeff Fisher as a head coach despite the wide held opinion nationally that he was terrible. He was asked about relocation in his initial interview with the Rams (he moved with the Oilers) and was fired half-way through the Rams first season in LA. I take issue with all of the talk by Kroenke and the NFL that they wanted to stay in St. Louis when their actions told a very different story. The PSL owners are going to get millions back and I say let merchandise buyers too. You can’t question the support the city and fans gave that team. But the act of securing a plan for a new stadium requires them to stay? It’s a business. They fulfilled their end of the deal and then they went to the city where they wanted to be/gave them the best terms for a new deal. End of story. Companies do this all the time. I still don't have a website, but I have a dribbble now! http://dribbble.com/andyharry [The postings on this site are my own and do not necessarily represent the position, strategy or opinions of adidas and/or its brands.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Besides, did you guys really want to fork over taxpayer money for the Rams? MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp49 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 The only winner here is class counsel who may rake in the big money while the members of the class get those postcards that say "you're a member of a class in a class action lawsuit, you bought a t-shirt you're entitled to $8.75." I could see those who bought merch between the end of the season prior to the time of the move and the move itself maybe being eligible to recover something but the time period they're using is ludicrous, same for those who bought tickets between 2010-2016. Hell, I bought a St. Louis Rams shirt when they announced the move and I live out of state. I want into the class but they're only allowing Missouri residents to participate. The suit is frivolous and I wouldn't be surprised if it was eventually dismissed or tossed on appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthers_2012 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Anyone who bought St Louis Rams merchandise seeing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbj273 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Yeah this case has no real merit and it would set a very dangerous precedent. I'll be shocked if this doesn't get thrown out rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 7 hours ago, hormone said: I want to sue directv and the Buccaneers. I buy Sunday ticket each year to watch them, but they have been so bad the past few seasons, I barely watch past halftime so I feel I’m getting cheated out of my purchases. You should sue yourself for subjecting your psyche to Buccaneers games. Wanton disregard for your own well being. I did that and walked away with a pretty decent settlement. It all seemed a bit pointless in the end though, and I’m still trying to dodge that shady attorney for his fees. I still have my suspicions his law license wasn’t valid considering it was written in crayon and was on the back of an old CVS receipt. You live and you learn, I guess. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 9 hours ago, Brandon9485 said: Not entirely true. Yes, the Rams held the City of St. Louis to the terms of a poorly written lease agreement, and that’s fair. I disagree that St. Louis has no intention of living up to there end of things. They offered the Rams a brand new publicly funded stadium. The deal was done outside the Rams saying yes. Why should Stan Kroenke, a billionaire, accept public funding from a locale he doesn’t believe gives his team the best chance to succeed? That’s what the pro St. Louis crowd doesn’t get. Kroenke is building a new stadium in LA on his own dime. That’s a far better precedent to set than a state like Missouri giving a billionaire money he doesn’t need and that they can’t afford to give. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Brandon9485 said: Not entirely true. Yes, the Rams held the City of St. Louis to the terms of a poorly written lease agreement, and that’s fair. I disagree that St. Louis has no intention of living up to there end of things. They offered the Rams a brand new publicly funded stadium. The deal was done outside the Rams saying yes. No, they didn't. This part is factually untrue. Having failed to live up to their end of the agreement (and there's no point in complaining that it was "poorly written", since the city willingly agreed to it at the time), they offered an outline of a deal in which the Rams would still have to pay for a third of it. And they expected the NFL to re-write its own financial regulations in the process. A staggering amount of entitlement there, especially since it was totally in their power to keep the Rams in town had they just lived up to their contract. 10 hours ago, Brandon9485 said: This is on top of the fact that once Stan Kroenke became majority owner in 2010, the team went into rapid decline. They did not have a winning season and kept Jeff Fisher as a head coach despite the wide held opinion nationally that he was terrible. He was asked about relocation in his initial interview with the Rams (he moved with the Oilers) and was fired half-way through the Rams first season in LA. I take issue with all of the talk by Kroenke and the NFL that they wanted to stay in St. Louis when their actions told a very different story. The PSL owners are going to get millions back and I say let merchandise buyers too. You can’t question the support the city and fans gave that team. Nobody has a right to a good football team. Relocation sucks, but St. Louis lived by the sword, and they died by the sword. They had no problem with relocation when it benefited from them, so they can't complain when it came around to bite them. Time to let it go; the city made its choice, and now lives with the consequence. Fair enough all around. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 18 hours ago, LMU said: So, if Jeff Carter gets traded at the deadline can I sue the Kings for buying an alternate with his name on it? Stupid logic. No, but if you bought the jersey from Fanatics they have a Jersey Assurance program. https://www.fanatics.com/jersey-assurance/x-2132+z-932267037-343285709 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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