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As much as I would LOVE to see Kroenke pay, I don’t think there’s much merit to this except for maybe the people who bought merch between the end of the last season and the relocation.

 

To the Rams’ credit, at least they didn’t do a redesign of their jerseys in the years leading up to relocation. I bet that’s something an owner will try to do someday 

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this is going to be interesting.  i know i bought some XFL trading cards back in 2001 (after they said it wasn't coming back).  can i sue the WWE then (not going to but give someone half a chance they will like this).  

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1 hour ago, goalieboy82 said:

this is going to be interesting.  i know i bought some XFL trading cards back in 2001 (after they said it wasn't coming back).  can i sue the WWE then (not going to but give someone half a chance they will like this).  

 

That's a good point - there's an argument that "St. Louis Rams" merchandise became more valuable after the move, not less.

 

Still, sour grapes, St. Louis.  Sour grapes.  Time to suck it up.

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So, if Jeff Carter gets traded at the deadline can I sue the Kings for buying an alternate with his name on it?

 

Stupid logic.

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This sets a dangerous precedent.  If fans can go after teams for moving or changing names, than MiLB is about to become Lawsuit Thunderdome. 

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This lawsuit seems silly, but the NFL and Stan Kroenke lied to the City of St. Louis and the fans that continued to support a purposely bad team. For that, I hope they get every penny possible.

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27 minutes ago, Brandon9485 said:

This lawsuit seems silly, but the NFL and Stan Kroenke lied to the City of St. Louis and the fans that continued to support a purposely bad team. For that, I hope they get every penny possible.

 

Nonsense.  The Rams made it clear for years that they were going to hold St. Louis to the terms of the contract they all signed.  And even then the Commissioner personally intervened to delay the legitimate move for a year even after it was clear the city had no intention of living up to its end of the bargain.

 

And on top of all that, St. Louis only got a team because they lured one away from another city with promises they wouldn’t keep.

 

St. Louis has only St. Louis to blame for the whole mess.  

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23 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

 

Nonsense.  The Rams made it clear for years that they were going to hold St. Louis to the terms of the contract they all signed.  And even then the Commissioner personally intervened to delay the legitimate move for a year even after it was clear the city had no intention of living up to its end of the bargain.

 

And on top of all that, St. Louis only got a team because they lured one away from another city with promises they wouldn’t keep.

 

St. Louis has only St. Louis to blame for the whole mess.  

 

Not entirely true. Yes, the Rams held the City of St. Louis to the terms of a poorly written lease agreement, and that’s fair. I disagree that St. Louis has no intention of living up to there end of things. They offered the Rams a brand new publicly funded stadium. The deal was done outside the Rams saying yes. 

 

This is on top of the fact that once Stan Kroenke became majority owner in 2010, the team went into rapid decline. They did not have a winning season and kept Jeff Fisher as a head coach despite the wide held opinion nationally that he was terrible. He was asked about relocation in his initial interview with the Rams (he moved with the Oilers) and was fired half-way through the Rams first season in LA. I take issue with all of the talk by Kroenke and the NFL that they wanted to stay in St. Louis when their actions told a very different story. The PSL owners are going to get millions back and I say let merchandise buyers too. You can’t question the support the city and fans gave that team. 

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The league didn't want the Rams to move to St. Louis, the Rams shouldn't have been in St. Louis, just call off anything about the injustices of the Rams leaving St. Louis.

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I want to sue directv and the Buccaneers. I buy Sunday ticket each year to watch them, but they have been so bad the past few seasons, I barely watch past halftime so I feel I’m getting cheated out of my purchases.

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2 hours ago, Brandon9485 said:

 

Not entirely true. Yes, the Rams held the City of St. Louis to the terms of a poorly written lease agreement, and that’s fair. I disagree that St. Louis has no intention of living up to there end of things. They offered the Rams a brand new publicly funded stadium. The deal was done outside the Rams saying yes. 

 

This is on top of the fact that once Stan Kroenke became majority owner in 2010, the team went into rapid decline. They did not have a winning season and kept Jeff Fisher as a head coach despite the wide held opinion nationally that he was terrible. He was asked about relocation in his initial interview with the Rams (he moved with the Oilers) and was fired half-way through the Rams first season in LA. I take issue with all of the talk by Kroenke and the NFL that they wanted to stay in St. Louis when their actions told a very different story. The PSL owners are going to get millions back and I say let merchandise buyers too. You can’t question the support the city and fans gave that team. 

 

But the act of securing a plan for a new stadium requires them to stay? It’s a business. They fulfilled their end of the deal and then they went to the city where they wanted to be/gave them the best terms for a new deal. End of story. Companies do this all the time. 

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The only winner here is class counsel who may rake in the big money while the members of the class get those postcards that say "you're a member of a class in a class action lawsuit, you bought a t-shirt you're entitled to $8.75."  I could see those who bought merch between the end of the season prior to the time of the move and the move itself maybe being eligible to recover something but the time period they're using is ludicrous, same for those who bought tickets between 2010-2016.  Hell, I bought a St. Louis Rams shirt when they announced the move and I live out of state.  I want into the class but they're only allowing Missouri residents to participate.  The suit is frivolous and I wouldn't be surprised if it was eventually dismissed or tossed on appeal. 

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Anyone who bought St Louis Rams merchandise seeing thisdff.gif

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Yeah this case has no real merit and it would set a very dangerous precedent.  I'll be shocked if this doesn't get thrown out rather quickly.

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7 hours ago, hormone said:

I want to sue directv and the Buccaneers. I buy Sunday ticket each year to watch them, but they have been so bad the past few seasons, I barely watch past halftime so I feel I’m getting cheated out of my purchases.

 

You should sue yourself for subjecting your psyche to Buccaneers games. Wanton disregard for your own well being.

 

I did that and walked away with a pretty decent settlement. It all seemed a bit pointless in the end though, and I’m still trying to dodge that shady attorney for his fees. I still have my suspicions his law license wasn’t valid considering it was written in crayon and was on the back of an old CVS receipt.

 

You live and you learn, I guess. 

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9 hours ago, Brandon9485 said:

 

Not entirely true. Yes, the Rams held the City of St. Louis to the terms of a poorly written lease agreement, and that’s fair. I disagree that St. Louis has no intention of living up to there end of things. They offered the Rams a brand new publicly funded stadium. The deal was done outside the Rams saying yes. 

Why should Stan Kroenke, a billionaire, accept public funding from a locale he doesn’t believe gives his team the best chance to succeed? 

 

That’s what the pro St. Louis crowd doesn’t get. Kroenke is building a new stadium in LA on his own dime. That’s a far better precedent to set than a state like Missouri giving a billionaire money he doesn’t need and that they can’t afford to give. 

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10 hours ago, Brandon9485 said:

Not entirely true. Yes, the Rams held the City of St. Louis to the terms of a poorly written lease agreement, and that’s fair. I disagree that St. Louis has no intention of living up to there end of things. They offered the Rams a brand new publicly funded stadium. The deal was done outside the Rams saying yes. 

 

No, they didn't.  This part is factually untrue.  Having failed to live up to their end of the agreement (and there's no point in complaining that it was "poorly written", since the city willingly agreed to it at the time), they offered an outline of a deal in which the Rams would still have to pay for a third of it.  And they expected the NFL to re-write its own financial regulations in the process.  A staggering amount of entitlement there, especially since it was totally in their power to keep the Rams in town had they just lived up to their contract.

 

10 hours ago, Brandon9485 said:

This is on top of the fact that once Stan Kroenke became majority owner in 2010, the team went into rapid decline. They did not have a winning season and kept Jeff Fisher as a head coach despite the wide held opinion nationally that he was terrible. He was asked about relocation in his initial interview with the Rams (he moved with the Oilers) and was fired half-way through the Rams first season in LA. I take issue with all of the talk by Kroenke and the NFL that they wanted to stay in St. Louis when their actions told a very different story. The PSL owners are going to get millions back and I say let merchandise buyers too. You can’t question the support the city and fans gave that team. 

 

Nobody has a right to a good football team.

 

Relocation sucks, but St. Louis lived by the sword, and they died by the sword.  They had no problem with relocation when it benefited from them, so they can't complain when it came around to bite them.  Time to let it go; the city made its choice, and now lives with the consequence.  Fair enough all around.

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