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36 minutes ago, BellaSpurs said:

Portland Montreal and Carolina could make for a good expansion for the MLB

Better.

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51 minutes ago, BellaSpurs said:

Portland and Carolina Montreal could make for a good expansion for the MLB

 

Best.  ;) 

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Of course not.  That’s the ground rule, has been for a half-century. 

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Not sure if Durham's big enough for big league ball, but on the flip side, the Durham Bulls name would have far more cache than anything else they could think of.

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2 hours ago, the admiral said:

Trade you NHL for AL

Only if the NHL goes back to Hartford.  

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If we’re not going to talk about the design, this probably goes in Sports in General. 

 

And that design... ugh. 

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2030

-Tampa Bay Rays move to Nashville.

-Oakland A's wise up and build a new ballpark at the Coliseum Complex.

 

2035

-Expansion to Portland & Raleigh or Montreal. 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Gothamite said:

Of course not.  That’s the ground rule, has been for a half-century. 

 

St. Petersburg got brutally screwed over for their construction of a stadium on speculation. Learn from St. Petersburg by not building until relocation negotiations are complete/approved by the league, or everything is in place for an approved expansion team.

 

Of course, privately fund the operation. If Stu wants to move the Rays there, tell Stu to sell. If relocation fails, at least the Rays will have a new, truly local owner who could get a better, privately-funded stadium done.

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Portland is probably the most interesting location of the three to me in this discussion because it's on the west coast, and it still only barely registers above a meh. 

 

Montreal probably sounds a lot cooler than it would actually be. Sort of how it was last time. I've seen a lot of "Things have changed!" talk, but where's the proof of that? 

 

I find there to be absolutely nothing even remotely exiting about the idea of North Carolina having a Major League Baseball team. It's about as interesting as the idea of North Carolina having a pro hockey team. 

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No, there's nothing exciting about it, only the fact that there's no major-league team between Atlanta and DC, but an awful lot of people. North Carolina is stealthily a really populous state: you have all these mid-sized towns like Raleigh, Charlotte, Greensboro, Winston-Salem, Asheville, and Greenville, and they all just about add up to Illinois, which is Chicagoland and precious little else. I don't really have an appetite for it because I like the Braves having the entire region to themselves, and I hate the New South for what they're done to our country, but it would make more sense than Montreal at this point, which, as I've said, MLB set out to kill and did. Vancouver might be the better option if Bell wants to give TSN a big block of summer programming.

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16 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

Portland is probably the most interesting location of the three to me in this discussion because it's on the west coast, and it still only barely registers above a meh.

I've been to Oregon and Portland numerous times and every time I'm there, there seems to be plenty of acceptance of the Mariners. Wouldn't bringing a team there be similar to moving the A's to San Jose, i.e. the regional team would claim owning said city's media market? I feel that would be the case with Portland and the Mariners, but I dunno. Portland seems to have a lot of local pride in their other teams that I think a MLB team could work, but like I said, I never get the vibe that the Mariners are the "forced" local team.

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18 minutes ago, Quillz said:

I've been to Oregon and Portland numerous times and every time I'm there, there seems to be plenty of acceptance of the Mariners. Wouldn't bringing a team there be similar to moving the A's to San Jose, i.e. the regional team would claim owning said city's media market?

 

No.  Because very few teams have the actual territorial rights that the Giants have over San Jose.

 

Which is good, since it’s hard to compare two points in one metropolitan area with two distinct and very separate cities.

 

If Portland really embraces the Mariners now, that’s a sign that they support MLB and are ripe for their own team.

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38 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

 

No.  Because very few teams have the actual territorial rights that the Giants have over San Jose.

 

Which is good, since it’s hard to compare two points in one metropolitan area with two distinct and very separate cities.

 

If Portland really embraces the Mariners now, that’s a sign that they support MLB and are ripe for their own team.

I don't see why it couldn't work. Portland isn't nearly as large as Seattle, but you've still got a 1+ million media market (which I would imagine also includes the effective twin city of Vancouver, WA). The Blazers, Timbers, even Winterhawks seem to do very well with local support, I don't think a MLB team would be any different. (Especially if they can be immediately successful similar to the Golden Knights).

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MLB needs to resolve stadium issues in Tampa, Oakland, Los Angeles (Angels) and I think Arizona before thinking of expansion. 

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