Wings Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 6 hours ago, infrared41 said: Edited to reflect reality. The last thing MLB needs is expansion. The second to last thing MLB needs is to expand to freaking Raleigh-Durham, NC. Let's fix Oakland, the two Florida teams, and add some sort of salary minimum to stop teams from tanking at the start of Spring Training. We'll try that for, I don't know, 50 years or so and then we can take a look at expansion. 2030 was just a prediction but I agree that expansion should be put on hold for a long time. I think Portland will be ok if MLB doesn't come calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 21 years and counting is the longest baseball has gone without expansion in the expansion era. Obviously the pace was going to slow from, say, adding four teams at once in 1969 (which even then was largely a consequence of Stuart Symington doing a nice-antitrust-exemption-you-got-here-be-a-shame-if-something-happened-to-it because the Kansas City franchise wouldn't be up and running fast enough for the good people of Missouri), but we've seen eight-going-on-nine teams join the rest of the Big Four since the Diamondbacks and Rays, and I don't even know how many MLS teams. I feel like there's a new MLS team every week; I think Bayern Waukesha is set to join in 2023. I definitely agree that baseball has to get its existing house in order before it thinks about expansion (somehow we give the bumbling NHL a pass on this principle) by resolving the stadium issues and tanking issues (or in the case of Oakland, a stadium septic tank issue), but I think it's going to happen in the 2020s. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 6 hours ago, SFGiants58 said: Besides, we know a MLB team in Nashville would put up all sorts of banners in the stadium to commemorate unimportant achievements. 2026 Wild Card Participant! PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Ice_Cap said: 2026 Wild Card Participant! 2027 Member Club 2028 AL South 3rd-place Champions My softball league has 10 teams but only two weeks for playoffs (play only on Monday) so they have a bracket with top 4, who play for the championship, next 4 who play for 5th place, and bottom 2 just play each other twice just to give them the same amount of games. Anyway, my team is in the second division bracket, and I’ve heard more than once that we’re playing to win the 5th-place championship. Nauseating. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Wings said: 2030 was just a prediction but I agree that expansion should be put on hold for a long time. I think Portland will be ok if MLB doesn't come calling. Of course they will. Every city will. The question is whether the league would be improved by adding any of these cities. And while Portland is a no-brainer, it is highly doubtful that the answer would be “yes” for a city like Raleigh. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Ice_Cap said: 2026 Wild Card Participant! 2029 Trade Deadline Champions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 13 hours ago, the admiral said: I definitely agree that baseball has to get its existing house in order before it thinks about expansion (somehow we give the bumbling NHL a pass on this principle) by resolving the stadium issues and tanking issues (or in the case of Oakland, a stadium septic tank issue), but I think it's going to happen in the 2020s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 13 hours ago, the admiral said: I feel like there's a new MLS team every week; I think Bayern Waukesha is set to join in 2023. Bayern Waukesha won't make it. Their stadium got denied so they will build near Oconomowoc instead. It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said: Bayern Waukesha won't make it. Their stadium got denied so they will build near Oconomowoc instead. Bayern Plainfield could really be skinning the competition! MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, SFGiants58 said: Bayern Plainfield could really be skinning the competition! THAT. IS. AWESOME. It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 So assuming MLB does go to North Carolina....why would you willingly choose Raleigh over Charlotte? PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Sec19Row53 said: Bayern Waukesha won't make it. Their stadium got denied so they will build near Oconomowoc instead. FiveO SC in the building.... *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 16 hours ago, Ice_Cap said: So assuming MLB does go to North Carolina....why would you willingly choose Raleigh over Charlotte? I think the only thing Raleigh has is a willingness to spend obscene amounts of money to build a stadium, even if it's in a desperate attempt to prove "No, we're a big league city too! Look, we can screw our own future for teams like the rest of 'em!" the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, QueenCitySwarm said: I think the only thing Raleigh has is a willingness to spend obscene amounts of money to build a stadium, even if it's in a desperate attempt to prove "No, we're a big league city too! Look, we can screw our own future for teams like the rest of 'em!" And in such a scenario, the team would likely be called the Carolina Whatevers, right? Most people would still associate that with Charlotte. The same way they do the Glendale Coyotes with Phoenix. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 19 hours ago, Ice_Cap said: So assuming MLB does go to North Carolina....why would you willingly choose Raleigh over Charlotte? Because Charlotte doesn't have a MLB-sized stadium and isn't getting one until 2035. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, sc49erfan15 said: Because Charlotte doesn't have a MLB-sized stadium and isn't getting one until 2035. Then the Carolinas shouldn’t be in the MLB conversation until 2036. Simple. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Then the Carolinas shouldn’t be in the MLB conversation until 2036. Simple. Agreed. I don't know how many times it needs to be said that Charlotte: -just built a new MiLB stadium that is not expandable to MLB standards. No way, no how. -given how difficult it was to get funding for the downtown basketball arena, it is extremely unlikely that $500 million (absolute bare minimum) of public funding will be approved for a baseball stadium. If it happens in the next 15 years, it'll be privately funded. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Eventually 1 billion will be the new bare minimum when it comes to stadium/arena construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcj882000 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 12 hours ago, DG_Now said: And in such a scenario, the team would likely be called the Carolina Whatevers, right? Most people would still associate that with Charlotte. The same way they do the Glendale Coyotes with Phoenix. And the Hurricanes themselves - just a couple months back I had to tell someone, who lives in North Carolina, that the Hurricanes played in Raleigh, not Charlotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 17 hours ago, DG_Now said: And in such a scenario, the team would likely be called the Carolina Whatevers, right? Most people would still associate that with Charlotte. The same way they do the Glendale Coyotes with Phoenix. Glendale is a suburb of Phoenix, though, while Raleigh is a three-hour drive from Charlotte. It’s perfectly reasonable to associate the Coyotes with Phoenix. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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