heavybass Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 After delivering the nuke on the previous concepts, I took a break from doing art as it were but then the stuff I had wasn't up to scratch so using the modified templates from @edjb93 to which he got from the original templates of @LEWJ... I present my own personal takes on the NFL, unknown at the moment if I'm going with the expansion teams I did last time. Presenting the Home kit with two alternate pants, the Road kit with two alternate pants with the Alternative kit, the Throwback kit and borrowing the NBA's City Jerseys to create a special one game only Big City Set.THIS IS WHAT THREAD CONTAINS AS TO WHY IT EXISTS: The NFL had a strike season of 2021 because the NFLPA and the league couldn't come up with an agreement thus the Super Bowl wasn't played... everyone lost money and the scapegoat was Goddell, he was immediately fired after the confirmation of a strikeout season. The New England Patriots no longer had the immunity that they had from Goddell's biasness and were immediately found guilty via an independent commission of benefiting via a corrupt commissioner... the new owners banned the team from post-season for 10-15 years, forfeitures of first round draft picks and stripped them of their Super Bowls won in the Goddell era thus giving Seattle, Atlanta and the LA Rams the wins. Adidas and Under Armor challenged the exclusivity deal of NFL's deal with Nike and it went to the highest court in the land which ruled that it was an unfair competitive advantage and forced Nike to drop teams in order to not being fined in the billions... they kept some teams in return like the Rams and the Cowboys. Big City is what it's called and it's essentially done by the designers, kind of like what the NBA does.... and there are some bad, BAD ones. THE NFL CONCEPTSNFC *Complete* East Dallas Cowboys Philadelphia Eagles Washington Redskins New York Giants North Green Bay Packers Chicago Bears Detroit Lions Minnesota Vikings South Atlanta Falcons Carolina Panthers New Orleans Saints Tampa Bay Buccaneers West Arizona Cardinals San Francisco 49ers Seattle Seahawks Los Angeles Rams UPDATED 2020 redesigns Atlanta Falcons Tampa Bay Buccaneers Los Angeles Rams AFC *Complete* East Buffalo Bills Miami Dolphins New England Patriots New York Jets North Pittsburgh Steelers Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals Baltimore Ravens South Indianapolis Colts Tennessee Titans Jacksonville Jaguars Houston Texans West Kansas City Chiefs Denver Broncos Las Vegas Raiders Los Angeles Chargers UPDATED 2020 redesigns New England Patriots Cleveland Browns Indianapolis Colts Los Angeles Chargers Expansions London Monarchs Dublin Celtics (Celtic Tigers) Mexico City Diablos (Diablos de Ciudad de México) Toronto Argonauts Houston Oilers Brooklyn Beats Oklahoma City Bisons Portland River Hogs Austin Desperados / Austin Armadillos Columbus Aviators / Columbus Capitals Memphis Steamers / Memphis Houndogs Orlando Sentinels / Orlando Wizards Sacremento Condors / Sacremento Miners San Antonio Dreadnoughts / San Antonio Marshalls San Diego Aftershocks / San Diego Crusaders St Louis Stallions / St Louis ThunderbirdsUpdates Dublin Celtics Toronto Argonauts Brooklyn Beats Oklahoma City Bisons Austin Armadillos / Austin Desperados Optional Expansions Frankfurt Galaxy Barcelona Dragons Hamilton Tiger Cats Mexico City Conquistadores (Conquistadores de Cludad de Mexico) / Mexico City Aztecas (Aztecas de Cludad de Mexico) Birmingham Bulldogs / Birmingham Vulcans / Birmingham Barracudas Others Hartford Whalers (East) Quebec Nordiques (East) Brooklyn Bolts (East) Toronto Raptors (East) New Jersey Generals (East) New York Yankees (East) Omaha Mammoths (North) Detroit Red Wings (North) Chicago Bulls (North) Minnesota Timberwolves (North) Kansas City Scouts (North) Cleveland Indians (North) Tampa Bay Bandits (South) Atlanta Hawks (South) Nashville Predators (South) Birmingham Stallions (South) Houston Astros (South) Miami Marlins (South) Seattle Sonics (West) Arizona Diamondbacks (West) San Jose Sharks (West) Oakland Invaders (West) Los Angeles Express (West) Anaheim Ducks (West) First of all, the easiest team to start off with.THE LOS ANGELES RAMS HOME ROAD OTHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsjetsthunder Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I would keep all the details on the jerseys the same color Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jn8 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I remember seeing some of your other concepts, and I like that you’re giving it a second go, however some of the same flaws are still present this time. Now I want to start with a disclaimer: I’m not familiar with making concepts on a computer, so I can’t tell you what to do within your program, but I’ll give the best feedback I can from a standard artistic standpoint. Before even looking into the designs themselves, I have to say something about the colors. You’ve got three different color schemes going on here; navy-yellow, navy-gold, and red-gold-neon green. That has to get narrowed down. I don’t care which one you pick, but it needs to be more consistent across the board. Now for the designs themselves. Like I said, I can’t tell you what to do in your program, but I’ll give you what I can based on an artistic standpoint. There’s certain parts of the template that just seem randomly filled in like how one pair of yellow pants has the top part filled in white (side note: why two pairs of yellow pants?) and some jerseys have filled in nameplates. The design elements that aren’t just inside the lines of the template feel very sloppy, like the helmet horns and sleeve designs. I know what you’re trying to do, but it looks very sloppy. It’s clear that you did that part free handed with the mouse. There’s got to be a better way to clean that up. I don’t know what specifically you need to do in whatever program you use, but the best way to clean up something that looks a little sloppy is to just slow down and take your time. To sum up: Simplify/add consistency to the color schemes Take your time with the designs I know you’re trying, you wouldn’t post if you weren’t trying, but you really need to slow down and clean up your designs. I don’t mean to sound rude at all, I’m just giving some honest feedback that I hope can help you improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 6 hours ago, jn8 said: I remember seeing some of your other concepts, and I like that you’re giving it a second go, however some of the same flaws are still present this time. Now I want to start with a disclaimer: I’m not familiar with making concepts on a computer, so I can’t tell you what to do within your program, but I’ll give the best feedback I can from a standard artistic standpoint. Before even looking into the designs themselves, I have to say something about the colors. You’ve got three different color schemes going on here; navy-yellow, navy-gold, and red-gold-neon green. That has to get narrowed down. I don’t care which one you pick, but it needs to be more consistent across the board. Now for the designs themselves. Like I said, I can’t tell you what to do in your program, but I’ll give you what I can based on an artistic standpoint. There’s certain parts of the template that just seem randomly filled in like how one pair of yellow pants has the top part filled in white (side note: why two pairs of yellow pants?) and some jerseys have filled in nameplates. The design elements that aren’t just inside the lines of the template feel very sloppy, like the helmet horns and sleeve designs. I know what you’re trying to do, but it looks very sloppy. It’s clear that you did that part free handed with the mouse. There’s got to be a better way to clean that up. I don’t know what specifically you need to do in whatever program you use, but the best way to clean up something that looks a little sloppy is to just slow down and take your time. To sum up: Simplify/add consistency to the color schemes Take your time with the designs I know you’re trying, you wouldn’t post if you weren’t trying, but you really need to slow down and clean up your designs. I don’t mean to sound rude at all, I’m just giving some honest feedback that I hope can help you improve 1, I shall that disclaimer with my own disclaimer... I have done this with art programs, i'm not good with photoshop.... Paint is my skill level, one shouldn't judge one's skill because of the program I use. 2, Oh that's the issue? No worries, I thought that by NCAA'ing the uniforms so to avoid clashing with other uniforms on certain match days but what i'll do is do the same BUT I'll post the best 3 in a final design... in a moment or so. 3, Doing this by hand IS hard and I have no tools to clean it up, so you are getting what you are seeing... my time was taken if you get the drift. Thank you for your input, it's what I wanted last time but never got enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 Now then.... I posted 9 uniforms, the 3 homes, 3 roads, Alternate, Throwback and Big City and then choosing the best 3 of each Home/Road/Other... we get the final 3.HOMEROADALTERNATE That should do it, now to do the other LA team.... the Chargers and I make apologises for my hand crafted work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 I won't delay this much longer but now I present the first AFC team of this concept batch, the other LA team... the Chargers. And I figured the primary blue will be powder but I also want to use their color rush blue and their navy blue and create uniforms based of those plus what their big city uniform is like.. which is to represent what Los Angeles is also known for but ignoring Hollywood altogether.... PALM TREES and 50's style suits. THE LOS ANGELES CHARGERSHOME ROAD OTHER If you also want to see the images before they show up here, they'll be uploaded onto my imgur which is provided here - https://heavybassx.imgur.com/all When time passes, I'll choose the best three before moving onto the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boi38951 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Why no chargers yellow alt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, boi38951 said: Why no chargers yellow alt? Officially I don't think an all yellow alt kit would work and Spanos wouldn't say yes to it.. besides one is a throwback alt whilst the other focuses three different types of blues that have been in Chargers history... but I have done a yellow alt just as you asked, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boi38951 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 hour ago, heavybassX said: Officially I don't think an all yellow alt kit would work and Spanos wouldn't say yes to it.. besides one is a throwback alt whilst the other focuses three different types of blues that have been in Chargers history... but I have done a yellow alt just as you asked, what do you think? This is what I’m saying! Amazing work my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 Time to simplfy the Chargers set... and here's what I chose for Home/Road/Alternate.HOMEROADALTERNATE Not sure when's the next update... I have some ideas on who's next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_DietDrPepper_ Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I don’t know where to begin, there’s a lot of things to say here. But I’ll keep it brief. What are the yellow stripes on the middle of the charges shorts?? And why are you hand drawing stuff on paint? There’s line tools. The alternate chargers uniform is illegal, the blue helmets can’t be used under the one helmet rule, on top of that, there’s an unnecessary royal blue mix in with all that muddling up the look. And the white facemasks, where there’s no white anywhere else on the uniform. I say scrap the whole idea and start over completely, look at the current nfl uniforms, how the colors, striping patterns, and combinations work on all those, and apply that to your concept. Look at other concepts, and apply what you see to your concepts, as in the completeness, neatness, professionalism, and crisp to them, and put some work into your ideas. Bc they seem rushed and sloppy, i would stay away from hand drawn stuff, especially with s mouse, it’s horrible hard to control, just use the line tools, it makes it so much better. I don’t mean to be rude, but there’s a lot of missed potential in these if you’d just put a bit more grit in them. (And I know I said brief, but I really could’ve given you so many more little nitpicky regards, so I spared you of it.) Follow the NFA, and My Baseball League here: https://ahsports.boardhost.com/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendocfc Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I only have one thing to say (coming from the person that had no clue how TV numbers work - or even that they were called "TV numbers",go figure) to be honest: Please, please, please try to be more proportionate with your front/back numerals! Names and the aforementioned TV numbers are fine,but those on the front and back are somehow elongated too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 I looked at the Chargers concept again and made a few clean ups based on suggestions here... numbers are straights, unused areas were removed and pants colours were revertred back, I tried to be fancy so my fault there. Did the same to the Rams... cleaned up a few areas, removed unused bits etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 Moving onto the NFC and to the South where sometimes you need to shake things up a little, give a team that's been around since the mid 90's a chance to evolve their design... and I attempt to do such thing here with...THE CAROLINA PANTHERSHOMEROADOTHER The first one in other is the throwback and essentially it goes back to the old mid 90's look... not much I can do with carolina blue, grey/silver, matte black and white... but I think I did a good job, not sure what you guys think though... I will clean up after I've chose the three to be featured in a simpler look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 Time to choose the three that best fits the Panthers.... and here we go.HOMEROADALTERNATE Next up will be in the AFC South... not sure who to pick yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 Quickly moving onto the next team.... moving onto the AFC South, lets go to the other team that came in alongside the Panthers.THE JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS HOME ROAD OTHER The throwback is essentially the original kit with the original colours... so technically it's 'aqua' and metallic gold. The big city outfit as I call it... is a reference to the Navy's elite flying unit, the Blue Angels... then again Jacksonville isn't known for much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Time to unveil what 3 kits make up the Jaguars for this concept... the double teal and black nearly won it as well as the new aqua and metallic gold... but I haven't gotten a throwback issued here yet so I chose that for the alternate.HOMEROADALTERNATE ((Throwback)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattyrattera Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Not a fan of the teal names on a black nameplate - make that the same color as the jersey. Also, I don't think teal numbers on a black jersey work well. I like that you added more gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 hours ago, rattyrattera said: Not a fan of the teal names on a black nameplate - make that the same color as the jersey. Also, I don't think teal numbers on a black jersey work well. I like that you added more gold They needed to add gold which was true... however that half gold, half black helmet was a big NO-NO. Also made the changes with the nameplate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 It's been a week, I've been working on more concepts... 2 of them are completed, 2 more are being finished off... let's go with the first of these new teams.THE DALLAS COWBOYSHOMEROADOTHER So Jerry Jones is a maverick, defies the league in his choices.... so I figured I do the same here, the big city one is probably the biggest middle finger concept wise to the league, bright neon skyline of Dallas represented truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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