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How is Arena Football not more popular?

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3 hours ago, GDAWG said:

This doesn't happen in outdoor football

Outdoor football leagues don’t stick around long enough for us to ruminate on whether they’re having up or down years.

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4 hours ago, GDAWG said:

The Arena Football League seems to be stable, at least this season, with the additions of Columbus and Atlanta...

 

Atlantic City, not Atlanta.

 

The remarkable thing is that this is the first time that the AFL is not the consensus top level of indoor football.  The IFL is currently at least as strong.

 

(Side note: the IFL's Nebraska Danger have an announcer in Steve Stein who is one of the best I have ever heard. Find any of that team's games on YouTube to hear a master in action.)

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2 hours ago, AstroBull21 said:

I'll post here since this seems to be the thread in general about arena and indoor football news and rumors...

 

The Tampa Bay Storm might return in 2020 as part of the National Arena League.  

 

https://primetimesportstalk.com/2019/05/28/tampa-bay-storm-could-return-join-national-arena-league-in-2020/

 

Isn't the NAL allegedly in financial trouble (not that any of these leagues aren't but they're particularly in trouble)? They probably could get a pretty good draw still but if they're going to bring back the Storm, the Predators should return too.

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1 hour ago, Red Comet said:

 

Isn't the NAL allegedly in financial trouble (not that any of these leagues aren't but they're particularly in trouble)? They probably could get a pretty good draw still but if they're going to bring back the Storm, the Predators should return too.

 

Jeff Bouchy, the league's #1 supporter recently sold his share of the Jacksonville Sharks.  The people over at Arenafan don't think there will be a 2020 season for the NAL and the revived Orlando Predators have not drawn all that well, playing to near empty crowds at the Amalie Center.

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12 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

Jeff Bouchy, the league's #1 supporter recently sold his share of the Jacksonville Sharks.  The people over at Arenafan don't think there will be a 2020 season for the NAL and the revived Orlando Predators have not drawn all that well, playing to near empty crowds at the Amalie Center.

 

Okay, I was wrong that the Predators weren't revived. The fact that they're getting a lukewarm reception should be a big red flag to the Storm.

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3 hours ago, Red Comet said:

 

Okay, I was wrong that the Predators weren't revived. The fact that they're getting a lukewarm reception should be a big red flag to the Storm.

 

They are also getting destroyed in their games.

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9 hours ago, GDAWG said:

 

They are also getting destroyed in their games.

And judging by their uniforms, little effort is being put into the team this year. Maybe an old rivalry can help but they need more than that.

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IFL is in talks to possibly having a team in Oakland. 

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On 6/2/2019 at 10:41 AM, Wings said:

IFL is in talks to possibly having a team in Oakland. 

At Oracle I guess? Makes sense since that stadium will need new tenants. 

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12 hours ago, GDAWG said:

 

Sad doesn't even begin to describe this. Criminal certainly does, though. 

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3 hours ago, Red Comet said:

 

Sad doesn't even begin to describe this. Criminal certainly does, though. 

If McIntyre had any good will in the community I hope it's all gone now. That's just disgusting. 

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Trujillo said if things continue like they are now, there may not be an Orlando Predators team to cheer for.

 

Wait, is there still a possibility they could come back?  That article is the story of how a team folds.

 

If the AFL allows them to come back, with McIntyre as owner, then the whole league is an illegitimate scam. 

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1 hour ago, Gothamite said:

If the AFL allows them to come back, with McIntyre as owner, then the whole league is an illegitimate scam. 

 

The Predators are not in the AFL; they are in the NAL (the league with the New York Streets), which is a rather large rung below the AFL. So that's the league that will have to decide whether to let the Predators return.

 

That league has plenty of issues. The Streets played their first season at the Westchester County Center, on a field that was three-quarters regulation length, so the distance between the end zones was only 37 yards, not 50, and was subdivided into "yards" of less than 2½ feet.

 

The arena featured ceilings so low that practically every kickoff attempt and extra point attempt hit it. The officials were baffled, and ultimately were reduced to awarding extra points if they thought that the ball would have gone through the uprights if it had not struck the ceiling. The Streets lost a game on such an absurd call as time expired.

 

On the "bright" side, the Streets won one game by forfeit, when the Carolina Cobras refused to play the second half after discovering at half-time that some items has been stolen from their locker room at this arena. 

 

Finally, the arena seats about 5000; it is used for the games of the New York Liberty, who draw crowds of about 3000. The attendance at Streets games was measured in the hundreds.

 

Early in the season, the league announced that it would be putting a team in Tampa Bay, to serve as a rival to Orlando. But, with the Predators' situation so shaky, it's anyone's guess what will happen with that Tampa Bay team.

 

So the east-coast NAL has quite a few decisions to make — including whether to exist, as rumours abound of an attempt to merge with the midwestern-based IFL, which, in terms of level of play, sits in that enormous gulf between the NAL and the AFL.

 

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16 hours ago, Gothamite said:

 

Wait, is there still a possibility they could come back?  That article is the story of how a team folds.

 

If the AFL allows them to come back, with McIntyre as owner, then the whole league is an illegitimate scam. 

If the minority owner was fully in charge and the funds, they'll probably be welcomed back. I don't think he has the money though. Tampa Bay's existence shouldn't be tied to Orlando's but I think having their closest rival be in Columbus, GA wouldn't be as well embraced as playing that team just up the road. 

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I really hope the Streets aren't one and done.  I love the branding and theme.  With a proper arena and marketing (street team?) and a proper website (Wix could do a better one), it could work.

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1 hour ago, CaliforniaGlowin said:

I really hope the Streets aren't one and done.  I love the branding and theme.  With a proper arena and marketing (street team?) and a proper website (Wix could do a better one), it could work.

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They play in the f-n National Arena League, which four walls and a ceiling equate to a proper arena.  It is basically the 3rd Tier League.

 

If they are not making money now, you think going to a larger facility will help? A "street team"...OK.

 

Let's have sign flippers in Times Square too.  Corey Galloway already told a fib once, stating that two game this season would be at MSG and a pipe dream.

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The new franchise will play their games at the Westchester County Center, with at least two games scheduled to be played at Madison Square Garden as they’re currently manufacturing a custom field that can be operated at both locations.

 

Galloway revealed to the Daily News that he’s hoping more games will take place inside the World’s Most Famous Arena, as he and the staff at MSG have been in talks about a dream scenario that would possibly include a day with a Rangers game in the morning, a Streets game in the afternoon, and a Knicks game in the evening.

 

I've posted this before, but even in the mid-2000's, renting MSG cost a lot!!!  And it is a Union house. Nassau won't be much cheaper when a playoff Islanders team would have weekend priority as well as Brooklyn Boxing/PBC

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