JackieMoon Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Idaho makes the most sense. Surprised the Canucks haven't moved theirs West by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 They wanted to, but Utica has taken to the team so incredibly well that they don't want to mess with what works. It's an admirable contrast to the Kings looking upon the success in Manchester and saying "screw it, doesn't matter, we gotta have our 14th forwards in a suburb of San Bernardino or none of this is gonna work." ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerGuyJordan Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 14 hours ago, the admiral said: They wanted to, but Utica has taken to the team so incredibly well that they don't want to mess with what works. It's an admirable contrast to the Kings looking upon the success in Manchester and saying "screw it, doesn't matter, we gotta have our 14th forwards in a suburb of San Bernardino or none of this is gonna work." I've formed friendships with a couple of the people in Tucson's management team, and had a conversation with one of the guys about a year ago to this effect. He said the formulas clubs that own their farm team use to figure out whether or not they want to stay east coast, or go more local are usually made up of lots of factors. At the end of the day, three items usually become the primary focus: 1. How much money can we make in the current market vs. a more regional locale? 2. How much can we save in call-up costs by moving? 3. How much more money are we looking at for affiliate travel costs here vs. there? He also stated that many NHL coaches and GMs prefer more local affiliates, because they have a little more flexibility with call-ups, but that isn't usually a big part of the business discussion that happens. Utica came up in that same conversation, and he likened it to the AHL's version of the Green Bay Packers, they're a city that defies a lot of the accepted market convention for the league. He still thinks Vancouver will move them if they get an appealing alternative. His guess why they didn't move west with everyone else is a combination of everything local (especially in BC) being more Junior friendly and California running out of open locations for a team. If Utica does ever lose the Comets, I'd put money down that the ECHL will swoop in and have a team on the ice within a season or two. Thunder Bay Lynx - International Hockey Association (2 seasons, 2017-18, 2019-20, 2018 Xtreme Cup Champions) | Houston Armadillos - Major League Hockey (2 seasons, 2016-18) | Minnesota Muskies - North American Basketball Association (1 season, 2017-2018) | Louisville Thoroughbreds - United League of Baseball (1 season, 2017, 2017 United Cup Champions) | Las Vegas Thunderbirds - International Basketball League (1 season, 2016-17, 2017 Champions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 And then that team will fail in a season or two because fans aren't dumb; they can see the difference between the NHLers of tomorrow and a bunch of gumps who couldn't crack AHL rosters that drop off hard as it is, e.g., Manchester. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieMoon Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 It's nothing against the Cyclones, they are my favorite local team. But, I miss the days when they were in the IHL. It was neat to see players who were in out of the NHL on the ice every night. I really wish the opportunity would present itself for them to jump up to the AHL. There would be an instant rivalry with the Monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 The IHL years for the Cyclones were honestly the best years (even though they won their two championships in the ECHL). I was a Mighty Ducks season ticket holder when they were in the AHL. I loved the AHL product. Became a season ticket holder for the Cyclones after the Ducks left for a couple of seasons but I definitely miss the AHL action. If they ever get the chance to move up, as well as fix US Bank Arena, I would be back. Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 20 hours ago, sohiosportsfreak said: It's nothing against the Cyclones, they are my favorite local team. But, I miss the days when they were in the IHL. It was neat to see players who were in out of the NHL on the ice every night. I really wish the opportunity would present itself for them to jump up to the AHL. There would be an instant rivalry with the Monsters. I feel the same way wrt to the Blades versus the Mavericks. Sure, its fun but its just not the same. I don't know why for the life of me that St. Louis hasn't moved its AHL team to Kansas City/Lamar Hunt Jr. moving the Mavericks up to the AHL. You already have the Blues trying to market themselves here, why not have tomorrow's Blues play here too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 10:14 AM, BeerGuyJordan said: I've formed friendships with a couple of the people in Tucson's management team, and had a conversation with one of the guys about a year ago to this effect. He said the formulas clubs that own their farm team use to figure out whether or not they want to stay east coast, or go more local are usually made up of lots of factors. At the end of the day, three items usually become the primary focus: 1. How much money can we make in the current market vs. a more regional locale? 2. How much can we save in call-up costs by moving? 3. How much more money are we looking at for affiliate travel costs here vs. there? He also stated that many NHL coaches and GMs prefer more local affiliates, because they have a little more flexibility with call-ups, but that isn't usually a big part of the business discussion that happens. Utica came up in that same conversation, and he likened it to the AHL's version of the Green Bay Packers, they're a city that defies a lot of the accepted market convention for the league. He still thinks Vancouver will move them if they get an appealing alternative. His guess why they didn't move west with everyone else is a combination of everything local (especially in BC) being more Junior friendly and California running out of open locations for a team. If Utica does ever lose the Comets, I'd put money down that the ECHL will swoop in and have a team on the ice within a season or two. The whispered rumors were that when the Canucks bought the ex-Rivermen (AHL edition) they had designs on setting up shop in Seattle, but the NHL may have put a brick on that. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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