kimball Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I'm not exactly sure what to call this as it's a bit different from the Unused Logos/Jersey thread. This is forgotten history about team name changes, logo rumors and relocation that never -- that kind of stuff. I bring this up for a couple of reasons and I'll illustrate my point to hopefully set the tone of the thread. I was researching the late '80s NBA expansion of Miami, Orlando, Minnesota and Charlotte and found a few interesting nuggets in this article. Quote The Heat's name was changed Wednesday from the Florida Heat to the Miami Heat. The league requested the change because there will be two teams in Florida. Quote In a dramatic decision, the NBA's Board of Governors voted unanimously Wednesday to award expansion franchises to the Miami Heat and Charlotte (N.C.) Spirit for the 1988-89 season and to the Orlando Magic and Minnesota Timberwolves for the 1989-90 season. I knew about the Charlotte Spirit nickname as it wasn't well received, the I found the Florida Heat nickname bit interesting and pretty much forgotten without having to dig pretty far back into news archives to find the reference. Additionally there was The Athletic article yesterday about the Dallas Mavericks aborted rebranding in the late 90s before Mark Cuban bought the team and branded them with their current look. I also found a few mentions in other articles of the possibilities of the Spurs moving to Miami to accommodate both Expansion bids in Florida, since the NBA was originally set to expand only by three instead of four teams. Anyways, I'd love to discover more lost history in other sport leagues since basketball is what I know best. What do you have? "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." Lily Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefalcon Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Not sure about other sports, but in the NFL we almost had: Oakland Senors in 1960 Jacksonville Oilers in late 80s Cleveland Tigers Baltimore Bombers St. Louis Stallions Charlotte Panthers Tampa/St. Pete Buccaneers Minneapolis/St. Paul Vikings The Redskins/Raljon Redskins (JKC threatened to remove any affiliation with the city of Washington at one point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 The Vancouver Grizzlies almost became the Vancouver Mounties. The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Bluefalcon said: Not sure about other sports, but in the NFL we almost had: Oakland Senors in 1960 Jacksonville Oilers in late 80s Cleveland Tigers Baltimore Bombers St. Louis Stallions Charlotte Panthers Tampa/St. Pete Buccaneers Minneapolis/St. Paul Vikings The Redskins/Raljon Redskins (JKC threatened to remove any affiliation with the city of Washington at one point) Actually IIRC the Carolina NFL expansion team was set to be the Carolina Cougars but they couldnt obtain rights from the old ABA team. And are we sure about the Buccaneers and Vikings twin names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 The Houston Texans had 5 finalists - Texans - Wildcatters - Bobcats - Apollos - Stallions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in LA Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 The Seahawks almost moved to Los Angeles. The Rams almost moved to Connecticut. Seriously. And of course the Padres almost moved to Washington, DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Not sure how forgotten it is, but in early 2006, officials from the then Florida Marlins visited Portland for the possibility of a relocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, DNAsports said: Not sure how forgotten it is, but in early 2006, officials from the then Florida Marlins visited Portland for the possibility of a relocation. Along with San Antonio, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Charlotte, and (briefly) Norfolk. There's also the numerous attempts by Charlie O. Finley to move the A's away from Kansas City and his later attempts to dump them onto a new owner outside of Oakland. He explored, in no particular order: Louisville Dallas Atlanta Milwaukee San Diego Seattle Denver New Orleans Phoenix (maybe) Basically, if a market got a team after 1960, you can best bet that the A's briefly considered moving there. I hate to brag, but I've kind of been chronicling this sort of thing for a year. MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodsep Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 hours ago, neo_prankster said: The Vancouver Grizzlies almost became the Vancouver Mounties. IIRC, it was the other way around. The Vancouver Mounties had to become Grizzlies rather hastily because a deal couldn’t be done between RCMP and ownership. Another interesting thing is that the Grizzlies name was intended for Toronto. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-grizzlies-toronto-raptors-logo-origin-may-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old School Fool Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 This one is a favorite of mine. The Clippers were going to switch to this for the 1992-1993 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j'villejags Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 8 hours ago, AstroBull21 said: The Houston Texans had 5 finalists - Texans - Wildcatters - Bobcats - Apollos - Stallions Apollos would have been a unique brand name in sports, and it fits in well with the Rockets and Astros team names. There are so many creative directions they could have gone with a name like that. If they wanted to go over-the-top with some additional marketing speak, (outside of the obvious Houston/NASA connection), it could have even described it as a nod to the beloved Warren Moon. Texans would have been my 2nd choice from that list. My NFL concept series (in progress) --ATL, CLE, NE, WAS done. AZ updated 04/21/23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmac Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I REALLY wish the Raptors followed through with a name change to the Huskies in 2013. I don't mind the Raptors brand (current or former) but Toronto Huskies is a great identity waiting to happen. It doesn't necessarily need to be blue and white like it was originally, but that would certainly help tie into Toronto sports branding. Missed opportunity. https://www.behance.net/bmatukewic8043 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4One Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 When the CFL expanded to the U.S., Baltimore (now Montreal Alouettes) were originally called the CFL Colts. The NFL got an injunction preventing them from calling themselves Colts, so they were just the CFLers, before being renamed Stallions for their second and last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clr2420 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I think remember when the grizzlies left Vancouver and were moving to Memphis, that they nearly were going to be the Memphis Express (due to FedEx), but the NBA had an issue with the corporate branding at that time (not with sponsorships but having team named after branding) "The Only Thing Standing Between You and Your Goal, Is The Bull Story You Keep Telling Yourself As To Why You Can't Achieve It." "Champions Aren't Made In The Gyms. Champions Are Made From Something They Have Deep Inside Them - A Desire, A Dream, A Vision" BREWERS BUCKS CAPITALS RAIDERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, clr2420 said: I think remember when the grizzlies left Vancouver and were moving to Memphis, that they nearly were going to be the Memphis Express (due to FedEx), but the NBA had an issue with the corporate branding PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Ben in LA said: The Rams almost moved to Connecticut. Seriously. No, they really didn’t. The governor of Connecticut, embarrassed by the Patriots’ having leveraged a phony Hartford threat to get a new stadium in Foxboro, tried to push his state as a new home for the Rams. But it was never even considered by Georgia Frontiere, the Rams, or the NFL. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I've always been fascinated about the New York (baseball) Giants' intent to move to Minneapolis/St. Paul in 1957. As the story goes, the Giants' looking to leave the Polo Grounds, had serious discussions with some businessmen from Minneapolis about moving the team there. It was also home to the club's AAA affiliate Minneapolis Millers. As this New York Times story indicates, exactly how serious the Giants were is unclear, and there's some speculation that the club was using Minneapolis as leverage to get a better deal from New York or San Francisco. But there are still some who believe the Giants would have moved to Minnesota had the Dodgers not elected to exit Brooklyn for L.A. The Dodgers really needed the Giants to move west with them to allay concerns from the National League about travel costs of having only one team on the west coast. Anyway, it makes for a lot of interesting what-if scenarios to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDizzle12 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, M4One said: When the CFL expanded to the U.S., Baltimore (now Montreal Alouettes) were originally called the CFL Colts. The NFL got an injunction preventing them from calling themselves Colts, so they were just the CFLers, before being renamed Stallions for their second and last season. Interesting. I always remember seeing the Baltimore CFL logo and just assumed they were always the Stallions. You'd think if they already had a horse logo it shouldn't have been hard to just think of a nickname to go with it. Instead of going a whole season nameless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafiaman Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Old School Fool said: This one is a favorite of mine. The Clippers were going to switch to this for the 1992-1993 season. This makes me miss the Buffalo Braves’ logo and colors even more. YUCK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clr2420 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Ice_Cap said: Meant in being named after sponsorship, not having a sponsor. That wasn’t a thing in 2001 either. https://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba-rejects-memphis-express-moniker-1.278813 "The Only Thing Standing Between You and Your Goal, Is The Bull Story You Keep Telling Yourself As To Why You Can't Achieve It." "Champions Aren't Made In The Gyms. Champions Are Made From Something They Have Deep Inside Them - A Desire, A Dream, A Vision" BREWERS BUCKS CAPITALS RAIDERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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