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Tampa Bay Rays: Escape from the Trop


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2 hours ago, Gothamite said:

How much of that is influenced in part by the fact they play an outsized number of games against the Yankees and Red Sox, though?

 

Probably less than it seems given how many other teams they have to play and the likelihood that a lot of people are paying for the out-of-market package and watching those teams on YES and NESN all year instead of Rays games. I mean, Yanks/Sawx games not taken national add up to, what, 34 games out of 150ish local telecasts?

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3 hours ago, Ice_Cap said:

The "all they need is a new stadium" argument does seem prevalent in the Tampa Bay area. It just seems like a hell of a gamble. It's a lot of public money to spend on something that could end up wasted if the stadium wasn't the problem after all. 

 

They might as well spend the money though, to be honest. There's no where else for MLB to go. So if the Rays are going to stink up the attendance standings in the Tampa Bay area? They might as well do it in a place that's pleasant to go to and spend an afternoon in.

If this is the only con in the Rays looking to improve their stadium situation and overall situation, it's not really that much of a gamble.  Especially if the locals feel it'll be a solution and there's no real alternative for MLB to look at.

 

This is exactly why the Rays have been talking to the Braves people.  The Braves did a lot of surveys and a lot of research when it came to putting together their SunTrust Park/Battery Atlanta plan, and early numbers suggest it's been a huge success.  Traffic hasn't been the disaster Atlantans thought it'd be, and leaving the ballpark area has been much more of a breeze than Turner Field.  And there's so much to see and do around the ballpark now.  The Rays want in on that.

 

If the TV numbers are high but attendance is low, that's telling me the fans are looking for inspiration to go to the ballpark.  An unexciting building that's quite the distance to drive to with high-ish ticket prices (last time I bought tickets to a Rays game, they seemed so much more costly than Braves tickets) isn't cutting it.

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9 hours ago, the admiral said:

Probably less than it seems given how many other teams they have to play and the likelihood that a lot of people are paying for the out-of-market package and watching those teams on YES and NESN all year instead of Rays games. I mean, Yanks/Sawx games not taken national add up to, what, 34 games out of 150ish local telecasts?

 

Any bump can be significant when we're talking about decent-but-not-outstanding ratings.

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Under the plan, the Rays would play in new stadiums in both the Tampa Bay area and Montreal, according to sources. The ability to play games early in the season in Florida would preclude the need for a domed stadium, cutting the cost of a new building. A month ago, Bronfman -- who along with Montreal businessman Mitch Garber has expressed interest in taking a minority stake in the Rays alongside owner Stuart Sternberg -- reached an agreement with a developer on a site in Montreal's Point-Saint-Charles neighborhood to potentially build a new stadium.

We can’t get a new stadium, so we’ll build two!

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Tampa wouldn’t show up (before everyone makes a funny original reply to this comment, yes, there are Rays fans in Tampa and the rest of Florida and they show up for games) for a team that “left”, and Montreal wouldn’t show up because the team isn’t “fully theirs”.

 

This is quite possibly the worst solution they could’ve come up with. Either stay or leave. You can’t have both.

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This just seems like an unworkable situation.  Teams have played parts of the schedules in other cities before (White Sox in Milwaukee, Expos in San Juan, Bullets in Baltimore, Dodgers in Jersey City). Teams have also shared/rotated among cities (Virginia Squires, Floridians, Carolina Cougars, Kansas City-Omaha Kings).  However, the latter situations all involved either one primary city (more or less) and/or teams with some regional/geographic connection (usually being within one state).  This would involve a team playing in two cities located about 1,500 miles apart with no apparent/realistic connection.

 

If you're a fan in Florida, it seems like it would be difficult to retain an attachment to a team that you know won't be in town for the home stretch of any playoff race.  Meanwhile, if you're a fan in Quebec, you know you won't be able to watch your team in person for several months of the season.

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This is 100% a negotiating tactic, I think, but the idea isn't really that far from workable. If you want an outside park in Montreal and are concerned about early-season weather, just have the team play 3 or 4 home series in wherever their Spring Training park is, then have "home" Opening Day in May or whatever. Home slate of 69ish games, which is fine and balances the need to have a clear home city with scheduling concerns (and also keeping something as egregiously stupid as this from happening).

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I could see a share like Montreal and San Juan worked in the 2000s, but this will not work full time.

 

I dont want to lose the Rays, and have set my personal expectations that over the next 5-6 years it will only get worse before it gets better.  Montreal to the Rays is what Tampa Bay/St Pete was to places like Seattle, San Francisco, and Chicago in the 90s.  Its the threat of actual relocation that causes movement.

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