2019 NFL Season: Super Bowl LIV

[dfwabel]

36 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

Hopefully prison. 

The Taylor lawsuit is civil and the Pennsylvania DA said the statute of limitations prevents him from filing anything regarding Ms. Taylor.

 

It's only the most recent messages which law enforcement can look at for criminal charges (not that anything else won't occur...ever)

[dfwabel]

Get this...

 

He couldn't stay off his phone long enough for $5M, but I guess he, Drew Rosenhaus (agent), and Darren Heitner (attorney) will try to get this.  Especially Drew.

[rams80]

1 hour ago, LMU said:

We’ll see how this measures to the Donte Stallworth year for DUI manslaughter.

 

Leonard Little only got 8 games for the same under the Sainted Tags.

[Crabcake]

On 9/7/2019 at 11:43 AM, Crabcake47 said:

At this point, this saga is drawing to a singular and inevitable conclusion: Antonio Brown, WR for the Washington NFL Franchise. 

still holds true

[dont care]

3 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

Does he still get his guaranteed $15M? Please tell me there’s some way they can withhold that. 

He’s only going to get about 150 grand because they cut him before his signing bonus kicked in.

[BBTV]

I had to refresh myself on the Stallworth situation.  Found this

 

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On April 1, 2009, Stallworth was charged with DUI manslaughter; he surrendered to police on April 2, 2009, and was released on $200,000 bail.[29] Under a plea deal, he received a sentence of 30 days in the county jail, plus 1,000 hours of community service, two years of community control, and eight years' probation.[30] His Florida state driver's license was permanently suspended.[31] On July 10, 2009, Stallworth was released from county jail after serving 24 days of a 30-day sentence.

 

How the MOTHER EFF do you 

1) only get 30 days for KILLING SOMEONE WHILE DRUNK DRIVING???  Seriously - are there other examples of DUI being taken so lightly?

2) His FLORIDA state driver's license was suspended.  Why just Florida?  Why should he be allowed to drive in Alabama or Georgia?  If a state-issued license is valid in all states, shouldn't a state-suspended license be enforced in all states?  I certainly wouldn't want someone like him being legally allowed to drive in mine.

[The_Admiral]

I'm pretty sure the suspension would be enforced in all states, it's just that driver's licenses are a state government deal that we sorta kludged into being federal through state compacts. Or maybe I'm wrong and Donte Stallworth is free to menace the highways and byways of Delaware, who knows what that state will let people (and "people") get away with.

 

Anyway, big roll of the eyes to the Patriots for invoking the ghost of Handjob Bob's wife to say that now Antonio Brown is unacceptable to their culture.

[dfwabel]

1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said:

I had to refresh myself on the Stallworth situation.  Found this

 

 

How the MOTHER EFF do you 

1) only get 30 days for KILLING SOMEONE WHILE DRUNK DRIVING???  Seriously - are there other examples of DUI being taken so lightly?

2) His FLORIDA state driver's license was suspended.  Why just Florida?  Why should he be allowed to drive in Alabama or Georgia?  If a state-issued license is valid in all states, shouldn't a state-suspended license be enforced in all states?  I certainly wouldn't want someone like him being legally allowed to drive in mine.

The victim ran across a highway with a median and not in a cross walk area.

 

Prosecutors analyzed traffic camera video, which showed Stallworth braking his Bentley immediately after Reyes ran into the street, outside of the cross walk.

Some defense attorneys think he could have won if taken to trial, but they could be looking at billable hours.

 

Bottom line, his family sold him out for cash and Stallworth didn't want the family to feel the pain of a trail covered by TV.

[Wings]

4 hours ago, Seadragon76 said:

Let's recap: He's burned down all the bridges in Pittsburgh... he burned down the bridges in Oakland.. and now New England, the one model of consistency, is saying "Nope. After this, we can't risk our reputation, what's left of it anyway, on you after this came out".

 

Where else does he go to, the XFL? CFL? Arena ball??

 

He can be the mascot for the Tampa Bay Vipers since he's a snake to begin with. 

[BBTV]

43 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

The victim ran across a highway with a median and not in a cross walk area.

 

Prosecutors analyzed traffic camera video, which showed Stallworth braking his Bentley immediately after Reyes ran into the street, outside of the cross walk.

Some defense attorneys think he could have won if taken to trial, but they could be looking at billable hours.

 

Bottom line, his family sold him out for cash and Stallworth didn't want the family to feel the pain of a trail covered by TV.

 

But he was still nearly double the limit for intoxication, and I imagine a sober driver would have had a better chance of avoiding the guy, even if he was jaywalking or whatever.  Regardless of anything Stallworth did that was "honorable", he was legally very drunk and killed someone.  That has to be worth more than 30 days, regardless of any other circumstances.

[dfwabel]

26 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

But he was still nearly double the limit for intoxication, and I imagine a sober driver would have had a better chance of avoiding the guy, even if he was jaywalking or whatever.  Regardless of anything Stallworth did that was "honorable", he was legally very drunk and killed someone.  That has to be worth more than 30 days, regardless of any other circumstances.

Take that up with the prosecutors.

Also, a Florida State judge has the ability to reduce mandatory DUI Manslaughter sentencing guidelines as a result of mitigating circumstances.

BTW, he cannot hold any drivers license again.

[Red Comet]

I think I found the Antonio Brown Christmas Special

 

 

[BBTV]

Eagles had to cancel practice on Wednesday due to a lack of enough healthy players.  Schedule isn't doing them any favors, as their TNF game is coming up next week, so the guys not able to go this week will likely also not be ready for week 4 in GB.  Detroit blows, but this week's game is no longer a gimmie.  A team picked by many to win the NFC could be looking at 1-3.

[dont care]

50 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

Eagles had to cancel practice on Wednesday due to a lack of enough healthy players.  Schedule isn't doing them any favors, as their TNF game is coming up next week, so the guys not able to go this week will likely also not be ready for week 4 in GB.  Detroit blows, but this week's game is no longer a gimmie.  A team picked by many to win the NFC could be looking at 1-3.

Who were these “many” you speak of. 

[FiddySicks]

18 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

I had to refresh myself on the Stallworth situation.  Found this

 

 

How the MOTHER EFF do you 

1) only get 30 days for KILLING SOMEONE WHILE DRUNK DRIVING???  Seriously - are there other examples of DUI being taken so lightly?

2) His FLORIDA state driver's license was suspended.  Why just Florida?  Why should he be allowed to drive in Alabama or Georgia?  If a state-issued license is valid in all states, shouldn't a state-suspended license be enforced in all states?  I certainly wouldn't want someone like him being legally allowed to drive in mine.

 

I’m not trying to defend Stallworth here, because drinking and driving is ALWAYS a terrible thing to do, but the guy he hit basically ran out into the middle of a freeway, and I think it was determined that even a sober driver would’ve had trouble avoiding hitting him. 

 

Edit: Abel basically touched on that above. 

 

Not that that’s always going to save you, though. I knew a guy who drove home once after having way too much to drink. A man on the opposite side of the interstate (there was basically a large grass filled ditch between the road acting as a median) had a MASSIVE stroke/heart attack, lost consciousness, and swerved all the way across the road and median and basically t boned the guy I knew who was under the influence. The unconscious man died as a result of the crash, and the guy I knew STILL got charged to the fullest extent and was convicted, even though alcohol was found to not have played a factor in the crash/death.

 

Some states just take DUIs more seriously than others. Florida (the whole south, really) has been notoriously lax about this from what I remember. California will basically ruin your life over DUIs. Depends on the state. 

[BBTV]

Whether a sober guy would still have hit the jaywalker or not can only be speculated, but if you’re drunk, IMO you lose the benefit of doubt there. I don’t get how DUI (and many other things) laws should vary state-by-state. It’s either a big deal or it’s not, and I’m not sure why one state could have a higher limit and lower penalties while another is zero tolerance. 

 

Anyway, that has nothing to do with football, so to keep this on track, I saw on TV that the Raiders never actually give guaranteed signing bonuses - how do they ever get anyone to sign there? Isn’t that the main way that the star players get their guaranteed money?

[Red Comet]

14 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

Anyway, that has nothing to do with football, so to keep this on track, I saw on TV that the Raiders never actually give guaranteed signing bonuses - how do they ever get anyone to sign there? Isn’t that the main way that the star players get their guaranteed money?

 

Because the Raiders uniform looks cool. Because it can't be due to a (recent) history of winning, competent ownership or coaching.

[dfwabel]

36 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

Whether a sober guy would still have hit the jaywalker or not can only be speculated, but if you’re drunk, IMO you lose the benefit of doubt there. I don’t get how DUI (and many other things) laws should vary state-by-state. It’s either a big deal or it’s not, and I’m not sure why one state could have a higher limit and lower penalties while another is zero tolerance. 

 

Anyway, that has nothing to do with football, so to keep this on track, I saw on TV that the Raiders never actually give guaranteed signing bonuses - how do they ever get anyone to sign there? Isn’t that the main way that the star players get their guaranteed money?

There's a limited supply of NFL jobs, that's why.   The signing bonus and other fully guaranteed money must be placed in escrow immediately after the contract is approved by Park Avenue.

From the above linked article:

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There are numerous facets to NFL player contracts. Compensation is packaged in multiple categories affecting cash flow. Basic salary, often called Paragraph 5 (P5), is paid for actual play, in 17 weekly increments over the regular season. For salary cap impact a signing bonus is evenly prorated over the number contract years. But the total cash of a signing bonus must placed in escrow at the beginning of the contract. The option bonus is also evenly prorated but may begin sometime after the start of the contract. Roster and workout bonuses are determined annually.

 

Guarantees may be tied to skill level, performance-impairing injury, or salary-cap constraint. Fully guaranteed funding includes all three conditions. Ideally a player seeks to be compensated with a fully guaranteed signing bonus. ESPN’s Jeff Legwold reported that Miller’s agent Joby Branion initially sought up to $70 million in fully guaranteed money. In turn the Broncos leaked that it offered Miller $38.5 million in fully guaranteed compensation over the two years of a six-year $113.5 million contract. That gap is smaller than it appears. As the Broncos have offered $1.3 million in workout bonuses and third year compensation protected with an injury guarantee.

 

The Broncos typically structure their large, long-term contracts with provisions causing very expensive dead cap money. So cutting the player in the third year is cost prohibitive. This type of structure creates an “effective guarantee” without having to place the full amount in escrow.

The Raiders have typically been cash poor and bottom four in revenue since the move back to Oakland and their PSL disaster. 

 

With building a new stadium and practice facility and less revenue in Oakland, they did not have the cash to put in escrow to sign Kahlil Mack, so they traded him to Chicago. 

[dfwabel]

3 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

I’m not trying to defend Stallworth here, because drinking and driving is ALWAYS a terrible thing to do, but the guy he hit basically ran out into the middle of a freeway, and I think it was determined that even a sober driver would’ve had trouble avoiding hitting him. 

 

Edit: Abel basically touched on that above. 

 

Not that that’s always going to save you, though. I knew a guy who drove home once after having way too much to drink. A man on the opposite side of the interstate (there was basically a large grass filled ditch between the road acting as a median) had a MASSIVE stroke/heart attack, lost consciousness, and swerved all the way across the road and median and basically t boned the guy I knew who was under the influence. The unconscious man died as a result of the crash, and the guy I knew STILL got charged to the fullest extent and was convicted, even though alcohol was found to not have played a factor in the crash/death.

 

Some states just take DUIs more seriously than others. Florida (the whole south, really) has been notoriously lax about this from what I remember. California will basically ruin your life over DUIs. Depends on the state. 

 

1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said:

Whether a sober guy would still have hit the jaywalker or not can only be speculated, but if you’re drunk, IMO you lose the benefit of doubt there. I don’t get how DUI (and many other things) laws should vary state-by-state. It’s either a big deal or it’s not, and I’m not sure why one state could have a higher limit and lower penalties while another is zero tolerance. 

 

Anyway, that has nothing to do with football, so to keep this on track, I saw on TV that the Raiders never actually give guaranteed signing bonuses - how do they ever get anyone to sign there? Isn’t that the main way that the star players get their guaranteed money?

FWIW, Stallworth did not immediately leave a bar or party and run over Reyes on the way home.  He drank, got home and slept napped a few hours, then got in his car to go to breakfast as Reyes was leaving his graveyard shift and was running to catch that bus. 

 

NOT DISMISSING WHAT HE DID, BUT I D@MN SURE THAT MANY OF US HAVE (SADLY) DONE THE SAME THING AND ONE MAY DO IT TOMORROW. 

[Red Comet]

20 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

 

FWIW, Stallworth did not immediately leave a bar or party and run over Reyes on the way home.  He drank, got home and slept napped a few hours, then got in his car to go to breakfast as Reyes was leaving his graveyard shift and was running to catch that bus. 

 

NOT DISMISSING WHAT HE DID, BUT I D@MN SURE THAT MANY OF US HAVE (SADLY) DONE THE SAME THING AND ONE MAY DO IT TOMORROW. 

 

At this point, Stallworth is probably punishing himself mentally to this day. No amount of punishment can possibly compensate for that kind of hell considering the circumstances of how it happened.