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Dak has reportedly scoffed at the Cowboys' 30 million dollar contract extension, and is asking for 40 million dollars.

 

I'm sorry Dak, but you're in no way, shape or form worth 40 million a year. You're a nice guy, but you're not going to get this kind of money.

 

Considering Dallas has two other contracts to discuss, with Zeke and Coop; there's not going to be enough money to throw around at all three if Dak is paid this kind of money.

 

He's going to probably be paid as much as Matt Ryan who is getting about 30 million a year; and even then I think it's still too much for an above average QB who has good talent around him, making him look good.

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I think each NBA off-season gets harder and harder for NFL players.

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14 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

I think each NBA off-season gets harder and harder for NFL players.

 

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18 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

I think each NBA off-season gets harder and harder for NFL players.

 

That's kind of what I was thinking. These NFL players see what NBA players are making, and it frustrates them quite a bit. Todd Gurley had this complaint a year or so ago where he asked, "Why can't I just get ONE of these $80 million dollar deals?", and while it sounds somewhat ridiculous (It doesn't take into account the enormity of an NFL roster in comparison to an NBA roster, for one), The frustration at least makes sense. 

 

 

For the individual player, the NBA is a MUCH more lucrative industry, and the beating your body takes is nowhere near as severe. I can at least understand how that's somewhat annoying considering how much money the NFL rakes in every day. 

 

 

EDIT: They mentioned that thing about fighting over Harrison Barnes' taxes on Lebatard today. In that context, that discrepancy is crazy. 

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There's also the fact there are smaller rosters in the NBA, so more players can obtain 100 million dollar plus deals. The cap ceiling in the NBA is also higher as a result.

 

You can't give an NFL player one of these contracts with how the CBA is right now, without having to lose key players, and then you have to restructure said deal; like a year or two into it, so it's basically pointless to do so.

 

You'd be better off simply burning the money.

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This is false. Dak isn’t asking for 40 mil. 

 

Numerous reports from verified NFL writers (including Cowboys writers) have said this is false. 

 

EDIT: This is a pro-Dak account, but he isn’t worth $40 mil.

 

No QB in the current salary cap is. Brady and Rogers are the only ones who legitimately make a claim for that kind of money. 

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35 minutes ago, Dalcowboyfan92 said:

There's also the fact there are smaller rosters in the NBA, so more players can obtain 100 million dollar plus deals. The cap ceiling in the NBA is also higher as a result.

 

You can't give an NFL player one of these contracts with how the CBA is right now, without having to lose key players, and then you have to restructure said deal; like a year or two into it, so it's basically pointless to do so.

 

You'd be better off simply burning the money.

While the dollar amounts are staggering compared to the NFL, who has roughly 70% more revenue than the NBA, it's that the NFL is the only of the Big 4 North American sports which does not have guaranteed contracts.  NBA owners have the option not to guarantee a contract, yet they still do.

 

32 minutes ago, AustinFomBoston said:

I curious what makes Dak think he's worth that much. 

And what makes him think he'd get it from Jerry Jones of all owners? 

It costs him nothing to ask for $40M/season or for a $40M signing bonus for that matter and his agent, CAA's Todd France, knows it.  Again, this is still a negotiation and you might as well give yourself more wiggle room since next year the cap will likely grow by another 6-9.5%.

 

Know that Jane Slater works for NFLN and before then worked for the Cowboys flagship station.  Stephen Jones likely gave her those numbers, not Todd France.  The agent would never say what was rejected.

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What's the current NFL/NFLPA revenue split? I'm assuming close to 50/50, with anything beyond that being in the owners' benefit, yeah?

 

The NFL keeps making money. Nothing on the fan side is getting any cheaper. Absent a dramatic change in the conscience of the consuming public (LOL), the NFL is here to stay.

 

Pay the players.

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53 minutes ago, AustinFomBoston said:

I curious what makes Dak think he's worth that much. 

And what makes him think he'd get it from Jerry Jones of all owners? 

 

To be fair, I think I’m worth $40 million/year, too. It’s just that nobody is found the bravery within themselves to give it to me yet. 

 

Cowards. 

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20 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

What's the current NFL/NFLPA revenue split? I'm assuming close to 50/50, with anything beyond that being in the owners' benefit, yeah?

 

The NFL keeps making money. Nothing on the fan side is getting any cheaper. Absent a dramatic change in the conscience of the consuming public (LOL), the NFL is here to stay.

 

Pay the players.

It was 50/50 until the 2011 agreement.
It is now 53/47 in favor of the owners (see the old Sean Gilbert for NFLPA Exec. Director story)
How much is 3%?

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I'll say this, the NBA appears to be in a Jordan-era type of boom right now. Sure, the players get paid a lot but where is the league getting most of its money? From ESPN and TNT. Cable companies. And we all know what direction cable is going. The NFL is going to get hit by this too but I think network TV is going to have a much longer lifespan than cable and the NFL gets most of its money from network TV. Combine the NBA's comically unequal competitive/revenue structure and all these alsoran teams overspending on a shrinking revenue source? 

 

NBA is screwed in 5-10 years. The players better enjoy these boom times while they last. Because the moment it hits the fan in the NBA, that is when the owners are going to use the situation to their advantage. Never let a crisis go to waste, after all.

 

But, I could also be completely wrong and if Silicon Valley doesn't get broken up (increasingly unlikely now that activists on the left and right are united in wanting to take it down), one of those companies could come to the rescue and keep the gravy train running. Is this contradictory? Yeah, but I like to consider all angles.

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19 hours ago, Rockstar Matt said:

This is false. Dak isn’t asking for 40 mil. 

 

Numerous reports from verified NFL writers (including Cowboys writers) have said this is false. 

 

EDIT: This is a pro-Dak account, but he isn’t worth $40 mil.

 

No QB in the current salary cap is. Brady and Rogers are the only ones who legitimately make a claim for that kind of money. 

 

I would also say Drew Brees, in his prime, could also make some sort of claim to this kind of contract. But, yeah; the list is next to none.

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1 hour ago, Dalcowboyfan92 said:

 

I would also say Drew Brees, in his prime, could also make some sort of claim to this kind of contract. But, yeah; the list is next to none.

 

Mahomes probably can if he keeps up his performance. And he'd still be underpaid.

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NFL hired Jay-Z as their new Executive Vice President Of Being Black And Stuff. Congrats, Hova! He's not a businessman, he's a business, comma, man!

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On 8/13/2019 at 10:28 AM, dfwabel said:

 

 

Apparently, he got it. 

 

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Worth a read on AB: https://deadspin.com/why-antonio-brown-needs-his-helmet-1837234576

 

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The American Football Helmet is a complex piece of equipment; it is both a shield and a sword, and it fits your head like a gantlet. When you slide it on, you know you are at work. You know that it’s just you out there, enclosed in a bubble. The manner in which you view your head—once precious, to be protected, vulnerable to cracking—changes. It can withstand punishment. It is a fortress. It is a weapon.

 

Light changes in that bubble. Awareness changes. Sound changes. It is quiet in there. But then gets very loud when you hit someone. You are like a crustacean deep below the surface of a violent ocean, and the sharks are always circling.

 

You become something else in that bubble. For the best in the world, altering that perception en combat is a huge risk.

 

But many have attacked Brown for this stance, as if switching helmets were as easy as switching brands of coffee—although I’m not sure any of you would give up your Starbucks, even if your boss demanded it.

 

If Antonio had the time or inclination to sit down and write things down for us, I imagine it would be a mash-up of the following points: the new helmet doesn’t fit right; it gives him a headache; the chinstrap feels weird; he can’t see his periphery (which makes him more vulnerable to big hits and less likely to track the ball in the air); the league’s “health and safety” initiative is bogus and just an attempt to limit liability; there’s no such thing as a “safe helmet”; NOCSAE is a political organization; “helmet technology” is a PR stunt; and we’re all going to die anyway. All of these things are absolutely true.

 

Fact is, there’s a WARNING sticker on each and every helmet, including the new and improved NOCSAE-certified models. It reads: “No helmet can prevent serious head or neck injury a player might receive playing football.” No helmet.

 

The “helmet technology” boom followed the discovery of CTE and the ensuing concussion panic. Next came structural “innovations” prototyped by myriad start-up companies claiming to be on the cusp of a “concussion-proof helmet.” Meanwhile, Crack! We’re all still smacking heads and that WARNING sticker has yet to be removed. Like they say, no helmet can solve the rapid-deceleration-of-the-brain problem that occurs on every football hit. Any football hit can catch you wrong and it doesn’t matter what NOCSAE says—you’re toast.

In this light, Antonio’s affinity for his helmet is understandable. He is a finely tuned instrument. Throw off one key and the whole thing gets retuned. Who knows if it ever sounds the same again?

 

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