Gothamite 17,731 Posted September 29 1 hour ago, adam__cain said: Tampa Bay has put too much emphasis on "pirate" and not "Buccaneer". Buccaneer carries a different image, and has more flair, more class, and more style. Bruce was the perfect mascot for that. It also separated them from the other pirate-themed teams. Much more interesting. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFGiants58 9,403 Posted September 29 (edited) Hence why we got Errol Flynn, as filtered through the '70s sense of aesthetics, which just looks campy to a bunch of people. The wink is the "line too far." The Pirates did a "Buccaneer" style logo better, even if it wound up looking like then-unknown actor Mel Gibson. Heck, even the name "Bruce" was apparently a name that was too "gay" for the '70s. That's why the Bill Bixby Hulk series changed Bruce Banner's name to David Banner. Luckily, no future adaptations picked it up (yet every piece of non-comics Hulk media uses the Bixby origins - not nuclear testing, but genetic manipulation). If the team had been winning out of the gate (not going 0-26) and had put together some '80s success, maybe we wouldn't think of Bruce as disparagingly. Maybe that wink becomes endearing. Still, if we're modernizing Bucco Bruce, we need to make him a bit more fierce and a bit less campy. (by Gyula Nemeth on Dribble) (By @turbo72577 on the Updating Vintage Logos thread) (from @Buc on this thread's opening page) Edited September 29 by SFGiants58 Took the Photobucket image, moved it to imgur 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucfan56 8,819 Posted September 29 26 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said: I just... My God. No. He looks terrified, for one ( I would be too, if I had to play for that garbage football team). That logo also, somehow, makes him look even gayer than the 70's version. I get the nostalgia for this look (Not really. At all. But I'll play along with it for the theme), but it really needs to stay as far in the past as it can. An occasional throwback alt (when the NFL finally finds a workaround to the one helmet rule or ditches it entirely) is all that's needed from this set. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFGiants58 9,403 Posted September 29 Yeah, that's a bad example. He looks like he's nervous and on the defensive, or he's about to sass you while carrying a knife. Buc did a much better job of modernizing Bruce while having him look agitated. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dont care 3,642 Posted September 29 3 hours ago, adam__cain said: Tampa Bay has put too much emphasis on "pirate" and not "Buccaneer". Buccaneer carries a different image, and has more flair, more class, and more style. Bruce was the perfect mascot for that. I went way too far down the Buccaneer rabbit hole, but most were on government contracts, so not exactly outlaws. Yeah he needs to be updated, maybe he becomes a skull himself, but this team needs the bright orange, red, something flashy, not just drab cannonball pewter. And pirates were the same. They were privateers for different governments to disrupt other trade ships. They are the same things just different words. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumptious Ham 415 Posted September 29 I like the wink. I feel like he is coming on to me. I could use the attention. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PosterNutbag 89 Posted September 29 I would love to see concepts of a hybrid of old/new--a skull-faced Bruce, with the hat and knife, could work well. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 17,731 Posted September 30 There have been some good ones floating around (although this guy’s website seems to be defunct). 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the admiral 20,886 Posted September 30 5 hours ago, Gothamite said: There have been some good ones floating around (although this guy’s website seems to be defunct). On 8/14/2019 at 10:51 AM, the admiral said: Okay, you know those Raiders shirts that have the raider removing his face to reveal an evil demon skull face? Shirt that has Bucco Bruce removing his face to reveal an evil demon skull face 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawk36 2,367 Posted September 30 Maybe I'm just getting used to it but with the all red socks, I'm liking Tampa's look more and more. Obviously just change the number font, simplify the outline, and it may be a nice set. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pianoknight 2,804 Posted September 30 2 hours ago, hawk36 said: Maybe I'm just getting used to it but with the all red socks, I'm liking Tampa's look more and more. Obviously just change the number font, simplify the outline, and it may be a nice set. I'd love to see this with an orange facemask. Right now, there are orange accents on the pants and jerseys. I suppose technically, the football on the flag logo is orange, but I think an orange mask might really tie this together. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice_Cap 16,201 Posted September 30 2 hours ago, hawk36 said: Maybe I'm just getting used to it but with the all red socks, I'm liking Tampa's look more and more. Obviously just change the number font, simplify the outline, and it may be a nice set. Can't agree with you on that. The whole thing is broken. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Volt 392 Posted September 30 3 hours ago, hawk36 said: Maybe I'm just getting used to it but with the all red socks, I'm liking Tampa's look more and more. Obviously just change the number font, simplify the outline, and it may be a nice set. I thought they looked oustanding yesterday. Yes, the number font is whack, but outside of the font choice itself, the texture pattern/silver highlights/black & orange outlines are very well-executed. With the Red socks & shoes that many of the guys were wearing yesterday, I thought this was a great-looking game against the all-White Rams. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dont care 3,642 Posted October 1 8 hours ago, hawk36 said: Maybe I'm just getting used to it but with the all red socks, I'm liking Tampa's look more and more. Obviously just change the number font, simplify the outline, and it may be a nice set. Some how that makes it worse because it just doesn’t go with the rest of the uniform. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wolf 4,235 Posted October 1 That Bucs combo might look good if you're really far away and forgot to put your glasses on so all you see are the colors. Sort of like some of the Browns' combos. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldschoolvikings 10,873 Posted October 1 There's no saving that abomination. The truth is the number font is so over-the-top, laugh-out-loud horrific, it actually helps distract you from how bad everything else is. There's no part of this steaming pile that's worth considering... just get it over with and flush it. 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jn8 1,947 Posted October 1 8 hours ago, hawk36 said: Maybe I'm just getting used to it but with the all red socks, I'm liking Tampa's look more and more. Obviously just change the number font, simplify the outline, and it may be a nice set. 16 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BellaSpurs 2,579 Posted October 1 12 hours ago, hawk36 said: Maybe I'm just getting used to it but with the all red socks, I'm liking Tampa's look more and more. Obviously just change the number font, simplify the outline, and it may be a nice set. When it came out I would’ve given it a -100/10, now It’s grown on me, and I like it better, I’ll give it s -50/10 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mafiaman 1,019 Posted October 1 20 hours ago, Volt said: I thought they looked oustanding yesterday. Yes, the number font is whack, but outside of the font choice itself, the texture pattern/silver highlights/black & orange outlines are very well-executed. With the Red socks & shoes that many of the guys were wearing yesterday, I thought this was a great-looking game against the all-White Rams. Looks great, but I think making the helmet logo twice as big would really knock this out of the park. (yes, that’s sarcasm) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel75 799 Posted October 1 On 9/30/2019 at 3:47 PM, Volt said: I thought they looked oustanding yesterday. Yes, the number font is whack, but outside of the font choice itself, the texture pattern/silver highlights/black & orange outlines are very well-executed. With the Red socks & shoes that many of the guys were wearing yesterday, I thought this was a great-looking game against the all-White Rams. You are correct sir, that is a great combo. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites