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2 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

My gut says that this was the best possible candidate for this team once it was clear Maddon wasn’t available. 
 

the scary thing is that again, it was the owner making the call about who the candidates were and steering his GM and Pres toward Girardi, mostly (allegedly) to satisfy the fans who were fully revolting against Kapler. 

Yep the Phillies are in the same problem as the cowboys, redskins, and Knicks where the owners think they are smarter than the people they hire to make football/basketball/baseball decisions and just buy the most talent without thinking about how it can go together, and then forgetting about depth or making a full roster even. As you can see none of those situations have created anywhere close to any amount of success other than the recent cowboys after Jerry went more hands off in-terms of personnel. 

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Oh :censored:, the Giants are going to try and do something REALLY stupid and bring back that joke Dusty Baker, aren't they? 

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2 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

Oh :censored:, the Giants are going to try and do something REALLY stupid and bring back that joke Dusty Baker, aren't they? 

 

There was a rumor of Mike Matheny as well. 

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I wouldn't be thrilled with Kapler, and Matheny would be sort of underwhelming (Although I really wouldn't completely hate that. He's fine, I guess).

 

But I swear to God if they do something stupid like bring back Dusty Baker, I quit. I have absolutely no idea how that listless fool keeps getting consideration for managerial jobs. You know EXACTLY what you're getting with him, and it's always :censored:. 

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Matheny would be awful, especially given this doozy of a quote:

 

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Matheny said of his players that talked ahead of him at Christian Day, “For them to share something that isn’t politically correct anymore, something that isn’t publicly acceptable, for them to stand up here and to share … takes a great amount of courage.” 

 

That was around the time the Cardinals denied Outsports (an LGBTQ+ publication) press credentials for Christian Day. Matheny and the Cardinals deserve the pain they bring each other.

 

Dusty Baker would be horrifying. He hasn't managed in a little bit and he's managed to screw up every time in the postseason. Baker is the Marty Schottenheimer or Don Nelson of baseball - utterly useless when it actually matters. Like Schottenheimer, he doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Looks like Matheny is getting the Royals job. 

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So the assistant GM of the Astros that yelled at the women during the ALCS celebration got fired today.

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7 hours ago, pmoehrin said:

Jayce Tingler to the Padres is our first head-scratcher hire of the offseason.

 

I want to think I'm pretty well-versed when it comes to coaches and managerial candidates around the league, and I even never heard of this guy until the Padres announced him as their next manager.

 

The other hires have gone as expected. I think Maddon to the Angels was a done deal even before he left the Cubs. Ross was talked about as a potential manager also before he retired, and he's maintained a steady relationship with the Cubs front office since retiring.

 

Every single person the Phillies interviewed was a veteran, and it was all but a guarantee that Joe Girardi was going to get a job somewhere. My guess is the Phillies were likely going to go with Dusty Baker, but once it became clear that Girardi wasn't going to Chicago as many, including me, thought, the calculus changed.

 

The big rumor right now is that the Mets are waiting until the World Series wraps up to name A.J. Hinch, their new manager. I think Hinch would be out of his mind to leave Houston, who will have their pick of the litter for a new manager if this happens. But the move does make sense once you understand that Brodie Van Wagenen was A.J. Hinch's former agent.

 

Hinch is signed through 2022, so the Mets will likely have to give up some compensation just to talk to Hinch, which is why I wouldn't recommend the hire, but Hinch would not be the first manager to leave a good situation because of a personal connection.


baker wasn’t a serious candidate for the Phillies. The favorite before Girardi got involved was Showalter, and he would have gotten it bad Girardi balked. I think baker was in the mix just because they wanted to at least talk to more people than Showalter. I think they’re actually kinda surprised Girardi had interest. 

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On 10/24/2019 at 1:26 PM, pmoehrin said:

The big rumor right now is that the Mets are waiting until the World Series wraps up to name A.J. Hinch, their new manager. I think Hinch would be out of his mind to leave Houston, who will have their pick of the litter for a new manager if this happens. But the move does make sense once you understand that Brodie Van Wagenen was A.J. Hinch's former agent.

 

Hinch is signed through 2022, so the Mets will likely have to give up some compensation just to talk to Hinch, which is why I wouldn't recommend the hire, but Hinch would not be the first manager to leave a good situation because of a personal connection.

 

I thought the rumor for favorite for the Mets was Eduardo Perez, although I've also seen Tim Bogar as a potential candidate.

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On 10/25/2019 at 10:50 PM, Shumway said:

I thought the rumor for favorite for the Mets was Eduardo Perez, although I've also seen Tim Bogar as a potential candidate.

 

The Mets have cast the widest net of any team going through a managerial search, so it's tough to get a read on any potential favorite.

 

The Hinch rumors seem to be losing steam as all parties involved have vehemently denied anything going on. The rumors will likely spring to life again once the Series wraps up, but I would be surprised if Hinch is managing for anyone but Houston in 2020.

 

There are at least three potential candidates lined up for a third-round interview, (Perez and Bogar being two of them) which strikes me as ridiculous, because why is the organization spending all this time interviewing people they have no intention of hiring?

 

Both the Cubs and Phillies, I think came into the process with a good sense of what they wanted in a manager. But with the Mets, all I see is an indecisive front office pouring over an endless list of candidates in a bogged down interview process that probably stopped being fun for all involved parties a week ago.

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What's the Giants excuse for taking as long as they have? 

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28 minutes ago, Bucfan56 said:

What's the Giants excuse for taking as long as they have? 

 

Astros bench coach Joe Espada is coming in for a 2nd interview after the World Series. It looks like it could be him. 

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Former Texas Ranger Josh Hamilton arrested on allegation of Injury to a Child:

 

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According to an arrest warrant affidavit, one of Hamilton’s daughters said in late September, they started fighting after she said something that upset him. Hamilton allegedly responded first by throwing a water bottle at her, hitting her in the chest. Cursing and yelling at her, he allegedly pulled a chair out from under where her feet were resting. The girl fell, landing on her hip, which she said caused a bruise. Hamilton then picked her up, threw her over his shoulder and carried her to her bedroom. The affidavit said she was yelling “I’m sorry,” but he continued on to her room. Once there, he allegedly threw her on the bed, pinning her face down on the bed. According to his daughter, he started hitting her legs with both an open hand and closed fist.

 

She then says, in the affidavit, that Hamilton picked up her by her sweatshirt, causing it to rip, pushed her back on the bed, and slapped her with his open hand on her back and her legs — leaving multiple scratches on her back that she said were from his fingernails.

 

Hamilton finished hitting her, and said, “I hope you go in front of the :censored:ing judge and tell him what a terrible dad I am so I don’t have to see you anymore and you don’t ever have to come to my house again.”

 

Yikes. The story of Josh Hamilton is both a crazy and depressing one, about how addiction can destroy a man and what relapses can do to them and their family.

 

He reminds me a little of Australia's Ben Cousins, albeit less insane. 

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On 10/24/2019 at 4:14 PM, dont care said:

So the assistant GM of the Astros that yelled at the women during the ALCS celebration got fired today.

 

He simply should have been honest: Apstein had been antagonizing the Astros for acquiring Osuna so he antagonized her back. That's all it was. He would have gotten fired anyway, but it would have been faster and easier for everyone involved and may not have cast as much of a pall over the Astros as all this ended up doing.

 

What all this turns out to be is a lesson that the executives who coldly made players so fungible turned out to be just as fungible themselves. Lots of people can do his job without causing incidents. Live and die by management consultants, I guess.

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I feel very bad for Royals fans who now have Matheny as their manager.

 

And let me be clear: It's not because I'm anti-Matheny or think he doesn't deserve a chance at managing a team ever again or anything. Rather, I think he is a poor choice for the Royals in particular at this point in time. Matheny has shown a penchant for distrusting young, developing players and preferring "proven" veterans that he can trust. This isn't an inherently bad thing if you have a team that actually has plenty of veterans who are actually good. But we saw it in St. Louis, where Kolten Wong would get benched (or sent down to AAA because he was just sitting on the bench) when his bat was trending down, even if the veteran who started in front of him was just as bad or even worse (and Wong played better defense anyhow). For a team like the Royals that needs to rebuild and develop its young talent, I don't know that Matheny will even let the young talent touch the field if he has his druthers. Maybe he's grown. Maybe the FO has made clear to him to expectations to play developing players. Maybe the expectation to compete for the postseason and a World Series in St. Louis made him feel like he had to mitigate risk rather than pursue rewards. I dunno. But based on his track record, this is not a good hire.

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The Giants are seriously still considering hiring Gabe Kapler as manager.

Damn it, Zaidi.

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17 hours ago, The Six said:

The Giants are seriously still considering hiring Gabe Kapler as manager.

Damn it, Zaidi.

Dear Giants,

 

Yikes.

 

Sincerely,

A Phillies fan

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Giants should just hire Joe Espada and call it a day.  

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