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The A’s aren’t even averaging 10,000 a game right now, so why the hell not? :censored: em, as far as I’m concerned. Good riddance. It’s crazy to think it’s gotten to that point, but I don’t really even think the greater Bay Area/Northern California would even miss them at this point. 

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13 hours ago, Cujo said:

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What's so great about Las Vegas? The only good thing about the A's moving there would be Fresno getting it's Triple-A team back. 

 

In my opinion, if the A's are moving anywhere it should be to Portland. 

 

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1 hour ago, plobrien said:

 

What's so great about Las Vegas? The only good thing about the A's moving there would be Fresno getting it's Triple-A team back. 

 

In my opinion, if the A's are moving anywhere it should be to Portland. 

 


I want to believe that if the A’s end up moving, it won’t be Las Vegas—either the aforementioned Portland or Salt Lake—but given that MLB has waived the relocation fee to Las Vegas (or is it anywhere?), it’s obvious that Las Vegas is the preferred destination.

 

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1 hour ago, DustDevil61 said:


I want to believe that if the A’s end up moving, it won’t be Las Vegas—either the aforementioned Portland or Salt Lake—but given that MLB has waived the relocation fee to Las Vegas (or is it anywhere?), it’s obvious that Las Vegas is the preferred destination.

 

 

I think Sacramento would be another great option if they can renovate the existing Triple-A stadium. Keeps them in Northern California too. 

 

23 minutes ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

 

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Good point.

 

Vegas could soon have NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA, WNBA, and MLS. That seems insane to me for that size of market. AT LEAST one of those teams isn't going to work out, probably MLS but if I'm MLB I'd think twice before I built a billion dollar retractable roofed stadium there.  Portland has great summers and Oregonians have a history of great fan support in every sport, plus the only competition is NBA and MLS not every sport PLUS casinos, concerts, etc. 

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1 hour ago, plobrien said:

 

I think Sacramento would be another great option if they can renovate the existing Triple-A stadium. Keeps them in Northern California too. 


Lol, no. It absolutely would not. I was once also fooled into thinking this. Then I spent five years of my life working with the city’s last disaster of an attempt to get a top level professional sports team. Sacramento is 100% out. 

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1 hour ago, ManillaToad said:

Why do people dislike Las Vegas so much when it comes to sports?


I don’t hate Las Vegas as a market; to be honest, it should have had a team 10 years before it did. My concern is that Vegas ends up saturated before long. I can’t think of any #30 or smaller market (IIRC Vegas is, like, #35) that could end up having a team in all 4 major sports (and then some).
 

I think the A’s would (will?) quickly drop to last in the market in terms of local support once the novelty wears off, and while they would have more visiting fans because Las Vegas, it comes across more as a get-richer-quicker scheme for Rob Manfred and Co. more than actually building (rebuilding) a fanbase in  places like Portland, Nashville, Montreal, Salt Lake, etc.

 

The Knights are adored because they were the first ones in, and the Raiders are the Raiders, but are you really going to have solid attendance for the A’s in Las Vegas at least 81 times a year 10 years in?

 

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2 hours ago, plobrien said:

 

I think Sacramento would be another great option if they can renovate the existing Triple-A stadium. Keeps them in Northern California too. 

 

Nobody in modern baseball is ever going to permanently move to a renovated Minor League Stadium. 

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2 hours ago, plobrien said:

 

I think Sacramento would be another great option if they can renovate the existing Triple-A stadium. Keeps them in Northern California too. 

No.  Just no.  Sacramento has neither the will, the facilities, nor the corporate base to both attract and keep an MLB franchise. 2008 showed us what happens in Sacramento when the biggest business, aka, the state government can't pay the bills.

 

 

1 hour ago, FiddySicks said:


Lol, no. It absolutely would not. I was once also fooled into thinking this. Then I spent five years of my life working with the city’s last disaster of an attempt to get a top level professional sports team. Sacramento is 100% out. 

If I could have liked this several times I would have.  1000% correct.

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1 hour ago, DustDevil61 said:


I don’t hate Las Vegas as a market; to be honest, it should have had a team 10 years before it did. My concern is that Vegas ends up saturated before long. I can’t think of any #30 or smaller market (IIRC Vegas is, like, #35) that could end up having a team in all 4 major sports (and then some).
 

I think the A’s would (will?) quickly drop to last in the market in terms of local support once the novelty wears off, and while they would have more visiting fans because Las Vegas, it comes across more as a get-richer-quicker scheme for Rob Manfred and Co. more than actually building (rebuilding) a fanbase in  places like Portland, Nashville, Montreal, Salt Lake, etc.

 

The Knights are adored because they were the first ones in, and the Raiders are the Raiders, but are you really going to have solid attendance for the A’s in Las Vegas at least 81 times a year 10 years in?

 

Sorry, but Salt Lake has no chance. Vegas is 1st, Portland a distant 2nd (in the event they don't remain in Oakland). If there was a chance they moved east (doubtful), Nashville would be priority if the Rays aren't' there first.

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1 hour ago, ltjets21 said:

Nobody in modern baseball is ever going to permanently move to a renovated Minor League Stadium. 

The seats at the new park in Vegas are the greatest ever. They are made of a firm mesh. It gives ever so slightly (you don't sag in the seat), and they allow for airflow.

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24 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

The seats at the new park in Vegas are the greatest ever. They are made of a firm mesh. It gives ever so slightly (you don't sag in the seat), and they allow for airflow.

I use an office chair with a mesh back at home and work office. The mesh really helps you stay dry or at least not feel stuffy like a leather chair would, especially on a hot day. The adjustable lumbar support helps out as well

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Does Portland even really want a team? They had chances with the Expos and Marlins. I think they're fine with NBA and MLS, and baseball wants them to want a team more than they themselves actually want one.

 

As far as Vegas goes - assuming that MLB does indeed shove this move through in the manner of someone body-checking a couch through a tight doorway - the bottom is gonna fall out on somebody there at some point if leagues keep moving in just because it's trendy. CSA of only 2.3 million people, nothing but desert beyond that, volatile local economy based almost entirely on tourism and hedonism, and yeah that water thing. Also Vegas just put up a new AAA stadium, what would happen to that if they went and slapped down some Globe Life Park monstrosity?

 

I've said it before but both these teams (Rays and A's) have been in limbo forever now. If there was any decent place for them to go that actually wanted them, they'd be there already. Bud Selig was publicly crapping on O.co and calling the franchise unviable without a new stadium twenty years ago!

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4 hours ago, ltjets21 said:

Nobody in modern baseball is ever going to permanently move to a renovated Minor League Stadium. 

 

I'm thinking a renovation that's basically a new stadium. like they just keep the lower bowl or something. 

 

5 hours ago, ManillaToad said:

Why do people dislike Las Vegas so much when it comes to sports?

 

Because every league is looking to move there. One them isn't going to work out, and it isn't gonna be the NBA or NFL.

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9 hours ago, plobrien said:

Because every league is looking to move there. One them isn't going to work out, and it isn't gonna be the NBA or NFL.

 

This doesn't answer my question at all because it just comes off as you being annoyed that there's a successful hockey team in Las Vegas

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