GDAWG Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, Magic Dynasty said: A's options not named Las Vegas: Portland - ehhhh I don't think they'd build them a stadium San Antonio - 2 teams already in Texas Salt Lake City - too small Vancouver - Canada Nashville/Charlotte - probably the best non-LV options available, but they're not "flashy" cities like LV is I can't see it being anywhere other than Vegas. Sure, they'll "look at other options" (probably Nashville, if I had to guess) in case Nevada isn't willing to fund a 3rd stadium in less than 10 years, but that won't happen. If nothing else, it's kinda funny that the A's and Raiders will once again be together, but in a different city. Vegas already has a minor league stadium that is brand new and opened in 2019, but it's not known if it's expandable to MLB standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, Magic Dynasty said: Vancouver - Canada NOW... There is quality reason for not having a major league baseball team! I want to see the A's threaten to move to Albuquerque. 6 Quote I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Comet said: I always thought the rationale behind Vegas is the increasing trend of fans traveling to see their teams play. Whoops, a third of the American population is never setting foot on an airplane ever again. They'll have to have a gig worker drop the Athletics off at their doorstep instead. 2 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 An MLB team in Albuquerque would be excellent black comedy. I'm for it. We need a Seattle Pilots of the 21st Century. 2 Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 From what Ive seen the top places for a team now are Montreal, Nashville, Portland and Las Vegas. Tampa Bay has kinda claimed Montreal already. Las Vegas and Nashville have both built new ballparks. Portland lost its team and ballpark to MLS. At this point if the city/state/provincial government gets involved in funding, Id say Portland has the best shot. Quote Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DnBronc Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, FiddySicks said: Remember the contraction talks in the early 2000s? Yeah, they probably should’ve just done that with the A’s. They should contract in MLB, NBA, and NHL. Just too many teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 6:09 PM, rams80 said: We've got maybe Charlotte and maybe Montreal east of the continental divide as "plausible" markets. I think MLB could brick those quite nicely if need be. Presently, Montréal seems more plausible to me than Charlotte, if only because of an active campaign led by Stephen Bronfman, an heir to the Seagram distillery fortune and the son of the original owner of the Expos. While Charlotte has been rumored for years as a potential home of an MLB team -- thanks largely to both a metro area with steady population growth and the continued financial pull of the city's banking industry (especially the national juggernaut that is Bank of America) -- I am not aware of any serious, clearly organized movement for an MLB franchise in or near the South's Queen City. In fact, I dare say that Raleigh has currently the most substantive and most tangible campaign for an MLB club anywhere in North Carolina (replete with a #RaleighOnDeck hashtag) ... even if most of the boosters of that project seem to be local hipsters whose individual and collective net worths are middle-class at best. On 5/11/2021 at 6:13 PM, MJWalker45 said: Is Nashville still in play? Apparently that's where people think Cleveland is moving to. Is Nashville still in play? Hmmm ... https://mlbmusiccity.com https://nashville-stars.myshopify.com https://twitter.com/NashvilleStars https://instagram.com/nashvillestarsbaseball https://facebook.com/NashvilleStarsBaseball As for Cleveland's MLB club moving anywhere, I see two major hurdles: Ohio's "Art Modell Law" forces pro sports teams playing at publicly funded venues in that state "to either get agreement from their home town to play most home games elsewhere, or give six months’ notice of their intention to move and allow locals a chance to buy the team." From what I have read, while Cuyahoga County's government is on track to pay off its debt on Progressive Field by the end of the 2023 season, it may not be exactly clear as to whether the Cleveland MLB team would become free to exit its lease of that ballpark at that moment, or would have to wait a certain number of years afterward before being allowed to play home games elsewhere. If the latter is true, then the Cleveland MLB franchise would be in a predicament much like that of the Tampa Bay Rays, who are still contractually bound to Tropicana Field through the 2027 season even though the City of St. Petersburg's government paid off the debt on that facility a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, DnBronc said: They should contract in MLB, NBA, and NHL. Just too many teams. old man yells at cloud 11 Quote Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Doesn't Portland have Russell Wilson as part of their ownership group? First of all, that's weird. If the A's move there and Wilson is part owner of the new group that owns the A's, they would still be in the same division as the Mariners, from Seattle, a place where Wilson is super popular. Second, why didn't he purchase a small share in the Mariners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Walk-Off said: While Charlotte has been rumored for years as a potential home of an MLB team -- thanks largely to both a metro area with steady population growth and the continued financial pull of the city's banking industry (especially the national juggernaut that is Bank of America) -- I am not aware of any serious, clearly organized movement for an MLB franchise in or near the South's Queen City. In fact, I dare say that Raleigh has currently the most substantive and most tangible campaign for an MLB club anywhere in North Carolina (replete with a #RaleighOnDeck hashtag) ... even if most of the boosters of that project seem to be local hipsters whose individual and collective net worths are middle-class at best. The real Queen City, thank you Raleigh is much more organized right now, but they kind of have to be to combat Charlotte. The Raleigh metro isn't particularly conducive to a team, with three large, distinct populations spread out over about 113 square miles. Durham to Raleigh is about half an hour, and you can't rely on half of your population to drive half an hour or more see the team. Diehard fans sure, but you're going to be drawing mostly from the city proper. The Research Triangle, Raleigh's CSA, is about 700,000 people smaller than Charlotte's, and the TV market is also smaller, though not by much here. The corporate money is also much more prevalent here as well as we have 9 Fortune 500 companies with headquarters here while Raleigh has... 2, not to mention other companies with regional headquarters in the city. Both cities are held back by the fact that neither of them have a stadium. Raleigh loses to Charlotte in just about every metric - the only reasonable argument for the Triangle over the Queen City is that Raleigh only has the Hurricanes to compete with. But in the MLB Raleigh site you mentioned, while they reference the Hornets' attendance struggles, they fail to mention that the Hurricanes also don't draw well, in fact, they've draw worse than the Hornets recently. If the MLB announced real expansion or it was seriously under consideration for a franchise to move, I guarantee you somebody in Charlotte would step up, whether that's David Tepper or another one of the rich guys that make the area home. Quote the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasah Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Magic Dynasty said: A's options not named Las Vegas: San Antonio - 2 teams already in Texas Two teams already in Texas is not the problem. SA is too poor. We couldn't finance a AAA ballpark, so no way we'll get a major league park. As much as I would like a team here, Austin is a much better choice, both richer and growing faster. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 4/1/2020 at 10:42 PM, Cujo said: Oakland fans after the Warriors, Raiders and A's all dip out Getting sadly closer to reality. 2 Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joke Insurance Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Could any of these cities be in contention? San Antonio Austin El Paso Tucson Fresno Inland Empire (San Bernadino/Riverside) Salt Lake City I'll also throw some Mexican cities into the mix: Mexico City Guadalajara Monterrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, Joke Insurance said: Could any of these cities be in contention? San Antonio Austin El Paso Tucson Fresno Inland Empire (San Bernadino/Riverside) Salt Lake City I'll also throw some Mexican cities into the mix: Mexico City Guadalajara Monterrey Oh, come on. 10 Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasah Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, Joke Insurance said: Could any of these cities be in contention? San Antonio 2,550,960 Austin 2,227,083 El Paso 844,124 Tucson 1,047,279 Fresno 999,101 Inland Empire (San Bernadino/Riverside) 4,650,631 Salt Lake City 1,232,696 I added 2019 metro populations. El Paso, Tucson, Fresno & SLC are too small. Inland Empire is too spread out. None of its cities is bigger than 330,000. I think Austin is more likely than SA, because it is richer and growing faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 While from the historical perspective the A's can be seen as peripatetic, the astonishing fact is that they have been in Oakland for as long as they were in Philadelphia — 54 seasons. I am amazed by this as I recall the near certainty of their move to Denver for the 1978 season, which, had it not been averted by a lack of agreement over who was going to pay off the remainder of the lease at the Coliseum, would have rendered the A's time in Oakland shorter than their 13-year stint in Kansas City. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 17 hours ago, Magic Dynasty said: A's options not named Las Vegas: Portland - ehhhh I don't think they'd build them a stadium The Portland area has two standing proposals now for a major-league-caliber baseball park. A few weeks ago, the Portland Diamond Project's plan for an MLB venue at the Port of Portland's Terminal 2 gained a intra-metropolitan competitor in the form of a proposal for an MLB park within a hypothetical mixed-use development in Gresham, a suburb east of Portland. Thus, the Athletics' owners could not only play the overall Portland metro area against any other possible relocation destination and/or Oakland, but could also pit the City of Portland proper against Gresham in the battle to give the A's the most attractive ballpark offer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeofChutney Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Just a curveball question - what location would be the biggest surprise for the move? Doesn't have to be one of the locations already mentioned. I'm thinking Seattle Pilots level of unexpected here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, DukeofChutney said: Just a curveball question - what location would be the biggest surprise for the move? Doesn't have to be one of the locations already mentioned. I'm thinking Seattle Pilots level of unexpected here. Albuquerque or Reno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 31 minutes ago, DukeofChutney said: Just a curveball question - what location would be the biggest surprise for the move? Among potential surprises that are big and yet plausible, I would go with Dave Kaval and company paying off the ownerships of both the Yankees and the Mets (and maybe paying off the Phillies' ownership also) and then moving the A's to the northeast quadrant of New Jersey. Some studies have suggested that, from a financial standpoint, the New York City and Los Angeles television markets would each be able to support three MLB teams more easily than any currently MLB-free TV market in the United States would be able to support one MLB franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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