Sodboy13 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 As referenced in the Chicago Fire thread, here are some concepts from 1996-98 for Nike's Major League Soccer identities, as posted by the original artist. A good bit of this made it onto the field. https://www.johnbell.studio/nike-mls/#itemId=597624fc414fb5f8abaec3a7 Notables: - This is a good look at Nike's proposal for the Chicago Rhythm. For those who don't know the story, Nike initially proposed "Rhythm" to complement its other abstract, cyber-'90s MLS identities. Unlike the other clubs, Peter Wilt and associates stood up to Nike and demanded something more local and lasting than something built to boost the supplier's brand. That's how we got the Fire, with its Florian cross and Northwestern striping (actually borrowed from '97 Arsenal), a perfect fit that has stood the test of time and clearly will never need any sort of overhaul. Nike's Rhythm method (look, I had to do it once, just let me have this) actually made it as far as production, with an embroidered badge surfacing on eBay and then Twitter this past year. The blue color is much closer to Carolina Panthers test blue than the royal shown here. - The Dallas Burn were originally going to be the Fury, which would have deprived aspiring young sportscasters like me from making all those "Burn over the Wiz" jokes for a magical couple of seasons. - You can see the evolution of the Mutiny brand from actual mutineer/buccaneer to cyber-bat thing, and also, uh, enormous mecha-spider? - That MetroStars taxi still rules. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGP Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I'll never understand what was going on with that Galaxy alternate logo. It looks like something Brandiose would come up with for a team named the Ring Worms. I've got a dribbble, check it out if you like my stuff; alternatively, if you hate my stuff, send it to your enemies to punish their insolence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRoman Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I know it’s a somewhat unpopular opinion, but i’m really glad mls went with the traditional club names. It really helped legitimize the league as real football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Couldn't agree more. Use traditional names, let the fans create nicknames. Win-win. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Mutiny and a pirate theme makes sense....Mutiny and a cyber bat doesnt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel75 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The Mutiny pirate looks more like Luigi and what’s with the carrot in the tornado? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totc Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, TheRoman said: I know it’s a somewhat unpopular opinion, but i’m really glad mls went with the traditional club names. It really helped legitimize the league as real football What we need to do is change club names from SC to FC .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_DietDrPepper_ Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 That looks like XFL meet soccer on crack. I hate it yet love it Follow the NFA, and My Baseball League here: https://ahsports.boardhost.com/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Diego Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Jesus, those are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 13 hours ago, totc said: What we need to do is change club names from SC to FC .... Literally the only thing the Fire got right yesterday. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed618 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 16 hours ago, totc said: What we need to do is change club names from SC to FC .... Yeah no we don’t. We'll never call it football, so why bother pretending that we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 18 hours ago, daniel75 said: what’s with the carrot in the tornado? It's called "edging" and some people really get into it. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCMacbeth Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 11:03 PM, BigRed618 said: Yeah no we don’t. We'll never call it football, so why bother pretending that we do? Because football is, for the lack of better word, more suited than soccer. There is more influence for the name 'football' around the world outside the US. And besides, soccer is only used by a few number of countries like Australia, Canada, South America and Japan, just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbjim Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 just split the difference and use AFC, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 11/24/2019 at 8:43 AM, Friedrich Stuart Macbeth said: Because football is, for the lack of better word, more suited than soccer. There is more influence for the name 'football' around the world outside the US. And besides, soccer is only used by a few number of countries like Australia, Canada, South America and Japan, just to name a few. Since soccer is the term used by the majority in the US and Canada, just go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Or use both interchangeably, as people in the United States do. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed618 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 To actually comment on the artwork, I also agree that the pirate emblem would’ve fit better with the Mutiny name. Heck, fix him up a little, and it could even make a great alternate logo for the Rowdies! Pirates do tend to be rowdy, right? Dallas Fury is awesome too. They really should’ve stuck with that pegasus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whittier S Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Do you know the story of the bat? It was presented, and they were like, "What's the deal with the bat?" And they said, "It's a mutant bat!" "What does that have to do with anything?" "Mutant. Mutiny. Get it?" "No, I don't, they don't have anything to do with each other." "But it's a mutant bat!" That's a near-quote of the dialogue, anyway, from an article from ESPN or Sports Illustrated, I forget which, I read awhile back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Whittier S said: Do you know the story of the bat? It was presented, and they were like, "What's the deal with the bat?" And they said, "It's a mutant bat!" "What does that have to do with anything?" "Mutant. Mutiny. Get it?" "No, I don't, they don't have anything to do with each other." "But it's a mutant bat!" That's a near-quote of the dialogue, anyway, from an article from ESPN or Sports Illustrated, I forget which, I read awhile back. Spoiler PAYNE: I told them, “I don’t get this [Tampa Bay] ‘Mutiny’. What’s with the symbol?” They said, “Oh, it’s a mutant bat.” “Okay, what does that have to do with Mutiny?” “You know — Mutiny, mutant.” I said, “Those are two different words with completely different meanings. They just share some letters. What are you doing?” RONGEN: What the f — -? A mutant bat? What are we representing? Nike must have had a few guys smoking dope, coming up with the craziest things. https://medium.com/@JArnholz/mls2stpete-and-why-the-failure-of-the-mutiny-doesnt-matter-4c0c60b513a9 Probably not the right story, but its the right quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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