Red Comet Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 hours ago, DEAD! said: It shouldn't matter who it is. That person should be banned from NASCAR for life. I would even argue if that person has an immediate family, they should be banned as well. Woah. Don't get me wrong, whoever this man or woman is, they're a total bastard and they deserve a lifetime ban from being within 5 miles of a NASCAR track. But you really want to be careful when it comes to punishing family members. Or, don't do it at all. The son shouldn't be punished for the sins of the father and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 The fact that Richard Petty was out there to support Bubba Wallace (his own driver) is a sign that the sport is taken this seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Best news possible: Not a hate crime. Not a hoax. A huge misunderstanding. People are going to drag Bubba about this, but it's not him who reported it. A crew member found it and Bubba apparently never saw it. It's a little embarrassing that a huge deal was made over this, but I'd rather have "embarrassing" over "racist" 100 times out of 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, sc49erfan15 said: Best news possible: Not a hate crime. Not a hoax. A huge misunderstanding. People are going to drag Bubba about this, but it's not him who reported it. A crew member found it and Bubba apparently never saw it. It's a little embarrassing that a huge deal was made over this, but I'd rather have "embarrassing" over "racist" 100 times out of 100. Oh thank God. I'm only concerned that this may be too little too late to really change the story (considering all the unfortunate stereotypes surrounding NASCAR and their fans) but it's a better outcome than a racist track worker or Bubba Wallace being a sociopath who manipulates racial strife for personal gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Red Comet said: 20 minutes ago, sc49erfan15 said: Best news possible: Not a hate crime. Not a hoax. A huge misunderstanding. People are going to drag Bubba about this, but it's not him who reported it. A crew member found it and Bubba apparently never saw it. It's a little embarrassing that a huge deal was made over this, but I'd rather have "embarrassing" over "racist" 100 times out of 100. Oh thank God. I'm only concerned that this may be too little too late to really change the story (considering all the unfortunate stereotypes surrounding NASCAR and their fans) but it's a better outcome than a racist track worker or Bubba Wallace being a sociopath who manipulates racial strife for personal gain. Well, it doesn't exactly reflect well on the Racing community that a noose-like object has been hanging in the garage of a NASCAR track for at least 6 months. With that being said, I am very glad that this wasn't a racist hate crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, sportsfan7 said: Well, it doesn't exactly reflect well on the Racing community that a noose-like object has been hanging in the garage of a NASCAR track for at least 6 months. With that being said, I am very glad that this wasn't a racist hate crime. I think its simply they didn't think it through beyond having an easy grip to open and shut the garage door. Probably should be a ball at the end instead, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Red Comet said: I think its simply they didn't think it through beyond having an easy grip to open and shut the garage door. Probably should be a ball at the end instead, honestly. Either that or outfit every car with a garage door opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 A little embarrassing for NASCAR and fuel for everybody that wants to immediately dismiss racism but I'm happy it wasn't something malicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I am just glad I am guilty of jumping to judgement on the garage door and it was a simple misunderstanding. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 in this day and age, why wouldn't whoever saw it have taken a photo of it? People take photos of literally everything that they think is anything - but they found what they reported to be a noose and a hate crime but didn't think to document it? Was everyone out of storage on their phones or something? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 What a relief that the Confederate flags toted by a caravan and an airplane were the most-racist events of the weekend. Fan Style ShirtsShowcasing fan-made sports apparel by artists and designers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Bubba Wallace insists that it is a noose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan7 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Red Comet said: Bubba Wallace insists that it is a noose. This would appear to contradict the reports that he didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, sportsfan7 said: This would appear to contradict the reports that he didn't see it. More quotes on his Twitter account. Apparently Bubba asked his crew chief for clarification, his crew chief told Cup Series management director Jay Fabian and he was the one who launched an investigation. There was already a heightened air of security and concern coming into this race and this put it over the top and into what has transpired. All of these are basically allegations until its all officially clarified but that is the latest I'm seeing now. If so, then NASCAR went bonkers on this before completing the investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 I saw a video of the garage area, and specifically garage 4 which was bubbas for this race for last fall, there was a rope tied like a noose as a pull down handle. I also saw a video from when the garages where first build and all of the pull down ropes where done with loops at the end (not nooses but most came undone in the 15+ years so it makes sense that someone along the time would fashion a new loop as a noose) How a NASCAR crew who has been going there for years wasn’t able to realize that what it was has to be stupid or trying to incite something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Interview that CNN did with Bubba Wallace last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 hours ago, dont care said: I saw a video of the garage area, and specifically garage 4 which was bubbas for this race for last fall, there was a rope tied like a noose as a pull down handle. I also saw a video from when the garages where first build and all of the pull down ropes where done with loops at the end (not nooses but most came undone in the 15+ years so it makes sense that someone along the time would fashion a new loop as a noose) How a NASCAR crew who has been going there for years wasn’t able to realize that what it was has to be stupid or trying to incite something. This is the pulldown in question. I can understand how there was a misunderstanding since I'm pretty sure the other pulldowns aren't tied like actual nooses like this one appears to be and there's no reason anybody on Bubba's team would have seen this one if it's only been like that since October but it feels like NASCAR could've sorted it out sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinFromBoston Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Can’t really blame people for being on edge with all the crap that has been going on recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 https://twitter.com/BubbaWallace/status/1275844030144950272 Bubba Wallace releases a statement. Alright, now let's learn from this and be better people to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, Red Comet said: https://twitter.com/BubbaWallace/status/1275844030144950272 Bubba Wallace releases a statement. Alright, now let's learn from this and be better people to each other. And start by not reading the comments on that tweet. People suck. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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