Gothamite

2020 Lower League US Soccer - USL Championship, League 1, League 2, NPSL, etc

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The 2019 thread has now meandered over to the upcoming season, so time for a new thread!  

 

This is for all the upcoming changes for next season.  And if 2019 was any guide, there will be a lot of them.

 

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Interesting.  Didn’t see this coming.  
 

 

I actually think the new brand is vastly superior to the old one, but if fans prefer the old then the club should listen. 

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13 hours ago, Gothamite said:

Interesting.  Didn’t see this coming.  
 

 

I actually think the new brand is vastly superior to the old one, but if fans prefer the old then the club should listen. 

 

Sounds like a "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" mentality from the Lou City FC fans in regards to the logo. 

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I would argue that's pretty badly cracked, if not broken outright. 

 

I think it's more about fans wanting to be part of the process.

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On 12/20/2019 at 1:18 PM, Gothamite said:

I would argue that's pretty badly cracked, if not broken outright. 

 

I think it's more about fans wanting to be part of the process.

 

As they ought to be. A club with no fans is a joke, they deserve a say.

 

My own two cents, I really hate the new logo compared to the old one. I think there's room for improvement with the crest, but not the way they did it, and certainly not with what they ended up with. 

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That’s fair enough.  I think the old is amateurish garbage and the new one is a vast improvement, so close to being a great badge. 
 

But I will never begrudge fans from wanting to be part of the process.  I hope that whatever comes out of this (which I doubt will be a return to the old logo) is even better. 

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Maybe we should start a thread on fan revolts that stopped badge changes. That would be very interesting. 

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3 hours ago, Gothamite said:

Maybe we should start a thread on fan revolts that stopped badge changes. That would be very interesting. 

 

Watford another example. In that case I agree with them, the new logo that was up against the current one was awful by comparison. Too "modern for the sake of it" as opposed to being an evolution.

 

That *would* be a fascinating thread though.

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I saw @GDAWG post this a few days ago on the MLS thread, but I'm reposting it here because it's a lower league thread.

  

On 12/18/2019 at 7:13 PM, GDAWG said:

 

 

This is really stupid imo and I think I even saw someone post a solution to the USOC problem for lower league teams on there as well. Goes to show how much the USSF doesn't care about developing players and helping soccer grow in smaller communities (the whole point of soccer!)

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On 12/21/2019 at 8:46 PM, Gothamite said:

Maybe we should start a thread on fan revolts that stopped badge changes. That would be very interesting. 

 

On 12/22/2019 at 12:08 AM, WarriorFight said:

Watford another example. In that case I agree with them, the new logo that was up against the current one was awful by comparison. Too "modern for the sake of it" as opposed to being an evolution.

 

ugh.

 

Thanks - let's give it a shot. 

 

 

I started with your Watford example.

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They went with Adidas because while those small apparel outfitters offer more in terms of customization, the resources they have available are less, and turnaround is usually a LOT longer. Republic started out using a small Italian company called Lotto, but everything took a ridiculous amount of time to produce and ship. Eventually Warren Smith (who is now in charge of Loyal) was able to swing a deal with Nike and it made our merchandise and player equipment logistics so SO much easier. I actually would’ve been really surprised had they gone with a smaller company considering the experience that front office has with that kind of stuff. 

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Thanks for sharing Bucfan56.

While I can understand their reasoning, as a fan I'd rather have bespoken / custom designs, even if it means a longer turnaround and less options.

Grew up partially in Italy during the 90s and Lotto was a big gear supplier to soccer teams, both amateur and pro across Europe.

 

San Diego is revealing their first ever jersey(s) on February 13th.

 

 

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Inter Miamis USL League one club now has a name, Fort Lauderale CF

 

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On 2/1/2020 at 4:21 AM, element7ero said:

Thanks for sharing Bucfan56.

While I can understand their reasoning, as a fan I'd rather have bespoken / custom designs, even if it means a longer turnaround and less options.

 

It's not even about longer turnaround - small companies just can't produce enough merchandise, period.

 

Larger suppliers are able to bundle their various contracts together with their manufacturer factories.  Small suppliers can't do that, so they just can't order as much without incurring higher per-unit costs.

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It’s easier for companies like Nike to rectify any mistakes, too. They have basically unlimited resources at their disposal and have quick turnaround no matter where in the world you are. And even if they have to take a small hit on the front end, it balances itself out in the end. Smaller companies don’t usually have that sort of room for margin of error. I’ve this firsthand with teams ordering merchandise from smaller, (even) local suppliers. It sounds nice to support a local business and plays really well with the community, but that’s about all. It’s one of the reasons why that sort of model is something teams tend to shy away from a bit. If you can outsource it, you might as well. It’ll usually be cheaper in the long run, anyway.

 

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