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On 4/2/2021 at 9:29 AM, Sport said:

Fun things are fun. John Scott making a dumb all-star exhibition through a fan vote was fun.

 

That wasn't fun until the NHL OITGDNHL'd it and ended up making Scott a martyr of sorts.

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7 hours ago, Wade Heidt said:

 

It was done last season 2 nights before the Sedins had their jerseys retired.  4 new banners for Smyl, Bure, Linden, and Naslund that more properly reflect the Canucks uniform they were known for.  The banners for the Sedins then went into the rafters 2 night later.

Oh well, my bad then. Never realised it. Too bad about the font though

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I don't mind the fonts. It adds a level of continuity between the banners from the different eras. Also I the Agency font (or whatever it is) appears thicker and blockier on those banners than it does on the jerseys, and I think its an improvement.

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On 4/2/2021 at 11:55 AM, Sport said:

Because suddenly a 100 point team built completely inorganically was dropped into the eco-system playing opponents who weren't built using the same advantages. In past expansion years those teams were also built inorganically, but the difference is the expansion rules didn't immediately put their rosters in better situations than already existing teams.

 

They didn't need to win the cup to disrupt the competitive integrity. What they did was enough damage to be a problem. If they'd won the cup it would've felt very hollow and phony. I am (and everyone else should be) glad that they didn't win the cup and the league avoided that bush league bullshirt. 

 

Never said it was rigged. Nobody said it was rigged. It wasn't deliberate, which is why it's even more OITGDNHL than if it had been rigged. Everyone who takes issue with that team takes issue with how that team was covered as the castoff darlings and that they were gifted an easier ride than their expansion predecessors. End of story. That Bettman overcorrected and almost accidentally gave them the cup in year one is an extremely Bettman thing to happen. 

 

Hindsight is 20-20, so its real easy to look back now and see the mistakes a lot of GMs made, but at the time Florida was the only clear loser of the expansion process, and that's because they saw it as an opportunity to shed payroll. Pittsburgh lost a key piece of their team, but Matt Murray was coming off back to back Cups and was looking like a perennial Vezina candidate. Every organization in the league would have done the same thing. The misfit/castoff narrative was actually pretty apt, considering guys like Theodore & Karlsson were given up from their respective teams in order to protect other players deemed "more important". They were also lead by a coach who had just gone through one of the most publicly humiliating firing experiences in league history.

 

It also helped that they played a fast, exciting brand of hockey. This was a big difference from previous Cinderella expansion teams like the Panthers & Wild, who had success early on due to stifling, shutdown defense. 

 

I definitely agree that Ovechkin getting to finally lift the Cup was a better outcome for the league, but the Knights' run established an incredibly solid foundation for a team that many were writing off as a failure before they even announced the team name. Who knows, in the next 10-15 years we may start seeing some star NHL players being developed in Vegas who started playing because of the Knights.

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I love how some people still claim the Knights were "gifted" a great team when after the expansion draft, everyone was predicting that roster would lead the Knights to be terrible that inaugural season; every prediction list before the season had the Knights dead last in the Pacific.

 

The only "gift" they got out of that was Florida being incompetent and dropping Marchessault, Smith and Gallant into their laps for free. Otherwise, it was just solid scouting by the Knights to pick up the players they did.

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If you have an issue with Vegas being successful right away, you can take heart in the knowledge that the way the team is run is likely not going to be very sustainable long team. The team branded itself as "the golden misfits" and as a bunch of cast off underdogs giving the league a bloody nose for exposing them. Now they've completely turned their back on that and are simping after every single big name free agent and trade bait player that they get a whiff of, and for my two cents I don't think a team constantly churning over its players to have the shiny, expensive new object is built for long term success.

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39 minutes ago, Chromatic said:

Now they've completely turned their back on that and are simping after every single big name free agent and trade bait player that they get a whiff of, and for my two cents I don't think a team constantly churning over its players to have the shiny, expensive new object is built for long term success.

 

And it's not giving the team the greatest reputation inside the league.

 

Yeah, it's a business and it would be naïve of a player not to understand that players get moved all the time, but being traded two years into a six year deal after being there since the beginning of the team because management got a shiny, new toy can't feel great, especially if nothing had been said by management.

 

Supposedly, there are also other non-Vegas players around the league who aren't fans of how Vegas has handled themselves in terms of transactions and perceived loyalty from management, or lack thereof. Brian Burke had made mention of Vegas getting a reputation of churning players at one point or another a while back.

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6 hours ago, Chromatic said:

I don't mind the fonts. It adds a level of continuity between the banners from the different eras. Also I the Agency font (or whatever it is) appears thicker and blockier on those banners than it does on the jerseys, and I think its an improvement.

 

The Agency font is sterile and weak. Prior to the '07 Reebok rebrand, the Canucks had always used the traditional Athletic block font. What should've happened was continuing on with the block-font with an added green border.

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4 hours ago, Ridleylash said:

The only "gift" they got out of that was Florida being incompetent and dropping Marchessault, Smith and Gallant into their laps for free. Otherwise, it was just solid scouting by the Knights to pick up the players they did.

 

Again, the generous expansion draft terms (along with Florida handing them Smith and Marchessault) enabled them to find a workaround to their roster limitations that they wouldn't have had otherwise. "What if you can just never draw a mismatch off us" usually isn't a viable strategy in a hard-capped, guaranteed-salary league. The 2013 Blackhawks came pretty close, but only because the lockout glitched the cap calculator and allowed them to use Michael Frolik as a PK specialist.

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Can someone inform me how Reilly Smith and Michael Frolik relate to uniform changes?

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10 hours ago, VancouverFan69 said:

 

The Agency font is sterile and weak. Prior to the '07 Reebok rebrand, the Canucks had always used the traditional Athletic block font. What should've happened was continuing on with the block-font with an added green border.

 

The problem with Agency, if there is one, is not really that it's 'weak' but that it's somewhat generic. Which to your point would also be the case if they had stuck with an Athletic block font. So I don't really like either for the same reason.

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On 4/1/2021 at 1:26 PM, VancouverFan69 said:

Actually, quite the opposite. It was Gretzky and team success that sold Kings merchandise. Had the Kings kept the purple and yellow-gold but went back to the original crown sweaters or went with something like the retro reverse with the Chevy shield, the Kings would have sold far more merchandise.

I think you massively fail to understand the demographic in Southern California.  Even where I lived at the time Ogden, UT we were only rocking the gear because it was gangsta, silver and black.  We all wanted to be like NWA. The colors still ring true today in Southern California despite the fact there is no more NWA or the Raiders in town.  

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4 minutes ago, beachperroAZ said:

I think you massively fail to understand the demographic in Southern California.  Even where I lived at the time Ogden, UT we were only rocking the gear because it was gangsta, silver and black.  We all wanted to be like NWA. The colors still ring true today in Southern California despite the fact there is no more NWA or the Raiders in town.  

I think the popularity of the Kings' Reverse Retro speaks loads as to how they can proceed in terms of identity, personally. Teams monitor that kind of stuff and take it into account for future reference; if Gretzky-era design + Lakers colors = extremely popular jersey that sells exceptionally well, where their current set in the black and silver isn't selling as well, they're not going to just ignore that data if/when they decide "we should freshen up our look to shake up some more merch sales".

 

With the Raiders off to Vegas, the team's on-ice identity in the midst of a changing of the guard and the trend in LA sports aesthetic clearly leaning more to the vibrant side of things, it'd be a great time for them to explore the option at the very least. 

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The Raiders haven't been in Los Angeles since 1994. They have just as much sway in LA from Vegas as they did Oakland.

 

We gotta stop arguing our cases for what we WANT to happen, as if a universe of facts back it up, when it doesn't.

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Stop the presses, we have an actual jersey announcement!

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The Coyotes will be revealing a new jersey this summer; I'm expecting it to be a white Kachina to finalize a rebrand as the capstone to the 25th anniversary celebrations.

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1 hour ago, Ridleylash said:

Stop the presses, we have an actual jersey announcement!

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The Coyotes will be revealing a new jersey this summer; I'm expecting it to be a white Kachina to finalize a rebrand as the capstone to the 25th anniversary celebrations.

Assuming the howling 🦊 is no more (of course, it's in the email header), both kachinas and the purple RR makes a nice set, for my $.

 

With the caveat that you may be able to replace hunter green with purple to tie that color in better and get better contrast on the black sweater. 

RIP brick red, too, I suppose.

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Maybe its just wishful thinking, but I feel like they aren't going to do a straight Throwback approach. I feel like something new is coming, obviously based off the Kachina jersey though. Maybe a red Kachina jersey? Using purple trim instead of green? the alternate Kachina head logo as the main? dare I say a sand colored jersey?

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I personally would like to see Arizona maintain what they have, just drop the howling coyote, re-colour the picaso coyote to their brick, black sand and white colours and re-introduce a modernised katchina pattern. I think that would be a perfect treatment. Their throwbacks just look too 90's, too dark and just a bit too chaotic for my liking

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6 hours ago, Bayne said:

Their throwbacks just look too 90's, too dark and just a bit too chaotic for my liking

Chaotic kinda describes the organization's history since moving to Arizona, though, so when you really think about it, it fits perfectly. 😜

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Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, Ridleylash said:

Stop the presses, we have an actual jersey announcement!

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The Coyotes will be revealing a new jersey this summer; I'm expecting it to be a white Kachina to finalize a rebrand as the capstone to the 25th anniversary celebrations.

*Fingers crossed*

Edited by Eastport76

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