BBTV Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, WSU151 said: Is it me, or does Paul Lukas completely mis-summarize what's going on? 2018 tweaks seem like a different change than the 2020 redesign. I originally thought the same thing, but the quoted part doesn’t make sense since the jersey change would have needed to have been communicated a while ago, not fewer than 4 months from training camp, so it’s not unreasonable to think they’re talking about 20 and just didn’t separate it from the statement about 18. Either way, either they worded poorly and he’s interpreting correct, or they’re accurate and he just missed the point. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinsUp1214 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Even if losing the wordmarks was all they ever ended up doing, that would be a huge upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think they ought to be able to take "Browns" off the pants at least, which would help immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackTheVet said: I originally thought the same thing, but the quoted part doesn’t make sense since the jersey change would have needed to have been communicated a while ago, not fewer than 4 months from training camp, so it’s not unreasonable to think they’re talking about 20 and just didn’t separate it from the statement about 18. Either way, either they worded poorly and he’s interpreting correct, or they’re accurate and he just missed the point. You're absolutely right. The quoted part is worded really oddly, with two possible ways to read it. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzaman7294 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Those would remove the main features of that uniform design. Not a fan of the design, but an odd change if it happened this soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDizzle12 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'd say these are the worst design elements of the Browns redesign, in order of awfulness.... 1. Shadows on numbers/Orange numbers 2. Wearing all-white every week 3. No real logo 4. Stripes that wrap around to front of jersey 5. Browns wordmark on pants 6. Contrasting stitching 7. No stripes on socks 8. Giant Cleveland wordmark 9. Number font 10. Old jersey template 2,3,5,7, and 9 should be able to change before 2020 based on the current NFL rules. Basically everything they did during the redesign was a bad choice. Aside from bringing back orange jerseys and pants, which aren't even worn anymore. I don't know who's to blame more Nike or the Browns, but it all seems to be thrown together just to be different. Nobody bothering to think if it actually looked good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, VDizzle12 said: I'd say these are the worst design elements of the Browns redesign, in order of awfulness.... 2. Wearing all-white every week 7. No stripes on socks 10. Old jersey template 2) That's a Browns tradition that should remain. same for Number 3. 5) The pants should have been tossed the minute that they saw the light of day. Just extend that stripe all the way down the leg. You could even keep that weird break that happens on the front of the jerseys. 7) Unfortunately that's every single football team in every league. No one believes in socks being specific to each uniform anymore. 10) The only reason they kept the old template was that the stitching is in orange or brown depending on the jersey. I think it's so hard to see that switching over to the new template should trump an original design element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenTino Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Given the writer's track record in recent years, I wouldn't exactly take that report that Lukas is citing as gospel, for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthers_2012 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 hours ago, VDizzle12 said: I'd say these are the worst design elements of the Browns redesign, in order of awfulness.... 1. Shadows on numbers/Orange numbers 2. Wearing all-white every week 3. No real logo 4. Stripes that wrap around to front of jersey 5. Browns wordmark on pants 6. Contrasting stitching 7. No stripes on socks 8. Giant Cleveland wordmark 9. Number font 10. Old jersey template 2,3,5,7, and 9 should be able to change before 2020 based on the current NFL rules. Basically everything they did during the redesign was a bad choice. Aside from bringing back orange jerseys and pants, which aren't even worn anymore. I don't know who's to blame more Nike or the Browns, but it all seems to be thrown together just to be different. Nobody bothering to think if it actually looked good. So basically the whole uniform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esco Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Browns need a complete overhaul with everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Everything but the helmet. And even that could use a different face mask. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDizzle12 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, panthers_2012 said: So basically the whole uniform? Exactly. Like I said, mostly everything they did was a bad idea. I am really okay with just the helmet, "oranger" orange, jersey/pant color options and new wordmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 This really shouldn’t be hard. The Browns have worn the same jersey top style for almost their entire existence — go back to it, maybe freshen it up and streamline it for the 21st century if you want. Get a pair of white and a pair of orange pants; no brown. Get striped socks back. Flip the facemask back to white or grey, or even keep it brown if you want. Update the Brownie the Elf logo, or failing that, go for a shield/“C”-based design you can own, and rock a script wordmark like they had in the end zones this year (and in the ’80s). It wasn’t broken in the first place — nobody’ll be upset if you just go back to what you wore for the better part of 70 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigers Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 White. They need more white, to be real Browns. Logano wins BOWL before Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd77 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/28/2018 at 4:53 PM, Esco said: Browns need a complete overhaul with everything. And the sad thing is the prior set never needed an overhaul in the first place. The only thing I'd change on the old set would be to add striping to the brown pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraw28 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 On 3/28/2018 at 6:54 PM, crashcarson15 said: This really shouldn’t be hard. The Browns have worn the same jersey top style for almost their entire existence — go back to it, maybe freshen it up and streamline it for the 21st century if you want. Get a pair of white and a pair of orange pants; no brown. Get striped socks back. Flip the facemask back to white or grey, or even keep it brown if you want. Update the Brownie the Elf logo, or failing that, go for a shield/“C”-based design you can own, and rock a script wordmark like they had in the end zones this year (and in the ’80s). It wasn’t broken in the first place — nobody’ll be upset if you just go back to what you wore for the better part of 70 years. If it ain't broke don't fix it.....it was a mistake back in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle Jim Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 5:59 PM, mjd77 said: And the sad thing is the prior set never needed an overhaul in the first place. The only thing I'd change on the old set would be to add striping to eliminate the brown pants. I agree, but with the edits I made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafiaman Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/28/2018 at 11:56 AM, VDizzle12 said: I'd say these are the worst design elements of the Browns redesign, in order of awfulness.... 1. Shadows on numbers/Orange numbers 2. Wearing all-white every week 3. No real logo 4. Stripes that wrap around to front of jersey 5. Browns wordmark on pants 6. Contrasting stitching 7. No stripes on socks 8. Giant Cleveland wordmark 9. Number font 10. Old jersey template Well, other than THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 They’re not changing for ‘18, despite what any unofficial claims in articles state. Those changes would have needed to have been in a while ago, even on a tight schedule. They’re significant enough to require a restocking of jerseys at retail, and that can’t happen if they’re just talking about it now. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old School Fool Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/28/2018 at 9:56 AM, VDizzle12 said: I'd say these are the worst design elements of the Browns redesign, in order of awfulness.... 1. Shadows on numbers/Orange numbers 2. Wearing all-white every week 3. No real logo 4. Stripes that wrap around to front of jersey 5. Browns wordmark on pants 6. Contrasting stitching 7. No stripes on socks 8. Giant Cleveland wordmark 9. Number font 10. Old jersey template 2,3,5,7, and 9 should be able to change before 2020 based on the current NFL rules. Basically everything they did during the redesign was a bad choice. Aside from bringing back orange jerseys and pants, which aren't even worn anymore. I don't know who's to blame more Nike or the Browns, but it all seems to be thrown together just to be different. Nobody bothering to think if it actually looked good. You missed the carbon fiber pattern in the helmet stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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