NFL Offseason Thread

[TBGKon]

14 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

Ideally, teams will play 8 home, 8 away, plus one neutral site game.

This would be what I could agree to, and it could give London a full 8-game schedule without a team itself.

[dont care]

1 hour ago, hugevolsfan said:

The 17 games schedule is a head scratcher to me and will put teams at a disadvantage every other year. Some teams will only have 8 home games & some teams will have 9 home games. Historically the home team wins 60% of the time with playoff teams actually winning 75% of the time on average. That makes no sense for a competitive advantage be given each year to half the league. The extra playoff team does not matter to me because it actually gives the team with the best record the only advantage in the playoffs of having a bye.

Apparently every team will have an international game for the 17th game

[hugevolsfan]

That makes the 17th game even worse for the players might as well do 18 if you agreeing to that mess 

[Wings]

Eventually they'll be 18 games over a 20 week season with 8 teams per conference qualifying for the playoffs. 

[dfwabel]

1 hour ago, TBGKon said:

 

So how is the 17th game being handled?  Is it really going to be 8 home/9 road and vice versa in alternating years?

Since the NFLPA won't have its 32 player-reps vote until tomorrow, it is still just the owner's proposal.  Two-thirds of the player reps have to vote in favor of the CBA, then a majority of the membership has to approve it.

 

It might come down to lifetime healthcare for players for them to accept a 17th game.  Holding out on 17 or 18 games is basically the NFLPA's biggest leverage piece.  There's also the report that the extra game check for a 17th game would be capped at $250K, so many dudes would be taking a big drop in weekly salary.  I ain't even playing, but F THAT.

 

The owners are fast traking this as they want to get the CBA done before the new league year on March 18, and to help get the networks to the table for the media contract.

[FiddySicks]

13 hours ago, dfwabel said:

That said, neither him nor his colleagues were told of or read about Bam Morris, or Nate Newton. He was 10 when Nate went to the Bing.

 

It still blows my mind that Nate Newton got caught red handed in one of the most weed hostile areas of the country (not to mention in a time when the War On Drugs propaganda was in full force) with more than 200 pounds of weight in his van, and then turned around and got caught in the same situation AGAIN just weeks later. Good God, that takes some cannonball sized nuts. I used to get nervous just walking around with a joint in my pocket. And this was in California in, like, 2010.

[AustinFromBoston]

If the CBA even gets approved, it will be fun seeing players intentionally sit out that 17th game.  

[BBTV]

1 minute ago, AustinFromBoston said:

If the CBA even gets approved, it will be fun seeing players intentionally sit out that 17th game.  

but they won’t... so that’s stupid. You realize the PLAYERS have to approve this, right?  The “C” in CBA means something. 

[SFGiants58]

22 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

 

It still blows my mind that Nate Newton got caught red handed in one of the most weed hostile areas of the country (not to mention in a time when the War On Drugs propaganda was in full force) with more than 200 pounds of weight in his van, and then turned around and got caught in the same situation AGAIN just weeks later. Good God, that takes some cannonball sized nuts. I used to get nervous just walking around with a joint in my pocket. And this was in California in, like, 2010.

 

Nate Newton was the subject of one of my favorite Crime in Sports episodes.

 

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/crime-in-sports/e/64110094

 

Seriously, it's the only sports podcast I listen to, and I love it!

[FiddySicks]

Oh, I’m definitely bookmarking that for work tomorrow.

[AustinFromBoston]

13 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said:

but they won’t... so that’s stupid. You realize the PLAYERS have to approve this, right?  The “C” in CBA means something. 

That's why I said "if they even approved it". 

That obliviously won't.   

 

I can see them maybe agreeing to the playoff expansion. But no way in hell do any of them want to play an extra game that most of the time will be meaningless. 

[dfwabel]

2 minutes ago, AustinFromBoston said:

That's why I said "if they even approved it". 

That obliviously won't.   

 

I can see them maybe agreeing to the playoff expansion. But no way in hell do any of them want to play an extra game that most of the time will be meaningless. 

What? If approved, they are going to play. You think nine guys are going to miss the Week 17 team charter?  Or will they all just break curfew or raid the mini-fridge (if teams allow them in rooms) to drink all the booze?

 

24 minutes ago, AustinFromBoston said:

If the CBA even gets approved, it will be fun seeing players intentionally sit out that 17th game.  

So cats on both side just won't show up?  Got it, G. 

[AustinFromBoston]

5 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

What? If approved, they are going to play. You think nine guys are going to miss the Week 17 team charter?  Or will they all just break curfew or raid the mini-fridge (if teams allow them in rooms) to drink all the booze?

 

So cats on both side just won't show up?  Got it, G. 

You really think players going to show up for an extra game;

1. Risking further injury 

2. When they're getting paid a paltry sum for it

3. When the game is likely meaningless playoff-wise. 

[dfwabel]

51 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

 

It still blows my mind that Nate Newton got caught red handed in one of the most weed hostile areas of the country (not to mention in a time when the War On Drugs propaganda was in full force) with more than 200 pounds of weight in his van, and then turned around and got caught in the same situation AGAIN just weeks later. Good God, that takes some cannonball sized nuts. I used to get nervous just walking around with a joint in my pocket. And this was in California in, like, 2010.

I think that award still goes to Sam Hurd

 

[dfwabel]

1 minute ago, AustinFromBoston said:

You really think players going to show up for an extra game;

1. Risking further injury 

2. When they're getting paid a paltry sum for it

3. When the game is likely meaningless playoff-wise. 

If they are free agents looking to get a new contract...Hell Yes.  Look at all the cats who played arena ball or are in the XFL at another shot at "The League".  And multiple teams could be fighting for the 7th playoff spot.  Sure. 

 

 

Again, you actually think guys will miss a team charter or take other steps in order NOT to play a 17th game?  For many, if not the majority, that check is already spent, not saved.  They will play. 

[AustinFromBoston]

13 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

If they are free agents looking to get a new contract...Hell Yes.  Look at all the cats who played arena ball or are in the XFL at another shot at "The League".  And multiple teams could be fighting for the 7th playoff spot.  Sure. 

 

 

Again, you actually think guys will miss a team charter or take other steps in order NOT to play a 17th game?  For many, if not the majority, that check is already spent, not saved.  They will play. 

If they're looking for a new contract, they aren't going to want to play an extra game & risk an injury. Especially when unless they have the 1 seed, they don't have a bye. 

 

 

And if they don't, the coaches would make them, because again, they don't want to risk one of their starters getting injured. 

It's silly to think there wouldn't be some minor revolt by even few of these players with how ridiculous the new schedule is.

Players are already trashing it.   

 

[dfwabel]

5 minutes ago, AustinFromBoston said:

If they're looking for a new contract, they aren't going to want to play an extra game & risk an injury. Especially when unless they have the 1 seed, they don't have a bye. 

 

 

And if they don't, the coaches would make them, because again, they don't want to risk one of their starters getting injured. 

It's silly to think there wouldn't be some minor revolt by even few of these players with how ridiculous the new schedule is.

Players are already trashing it.   

 

Former players were trashing it earlier in the day.  See your mans, former Pats Donte Stalworth and Damien Woody plus big feet Derek Anderson.

 

They want lifetime healthcare.  If that is given to them, then they will happily play, hence the C in the CBA as it stands for "Collective".

 

[BBTV]

41 minutes ago, AustinFromBoston said:

That's why I said "if they even approved it". 

That obliviously won't.   

 

I can see them maybe agreeing to the playoff expansion. But no way in hell do any of them want to play an extra game that most of the time will be meaningless. 

So IF the PLAYERS approve, you think the PLAYERS would just not show up for the game they just agreed to?  
 

most of the time that game won’t be meaningless, because of the extra playoff spot.   They don’t honestly care about safety. 
 

how old are you?  

[dfwabel]

1 minute ago, BringBackTheVet said:

So IF the PLAYERS approve, you think the PLAYERS would just not show up for the game they just agreed to?  
 

most of the time that game won’t be meaningless, because of the extra playoff spot.   They don’t honestly care about safety. 
 

how old are you?  

he thinks dudes will not fly on the team charter to the away game.

[BBTV]

What if it’s a home game? They’re just going to turn the alarm clock off and sleep in?  There’s 500 reasons the notion is silly, but I want to be mindful of destroying a minor on the internet. BBTV circa 2008 would not have been as considerate.