selby56 452 Posted April 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, Digby said: I’m afraid to go for a run, not because of the virus but because I don’t want a neighborhood Facebook group vigilante to snap my photo and say I was 5.9 feet away from somebody or something. This is how I feel too. I live in an urban area less than a mile from downtown Pittsburgh, so when I run it is inevitable I will pass people on the sidewalk and pass numerous apartment entrances. A few weeks ago I'd go for a run 3 or 4 times a week, didn't think anything of it. The last two weeks people have given me looks when I pass, even some have yelled at me. One woman said I was too close to her apartment door and advised me to walk on the edge of the sidewalk, rather than in the middle. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digby 6,135 Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, selby56 said: This is how I feel too. I live in an urban area less than a mile from downtown Pittsburgh, so when I run it is inevitable I will pass people on the sidewalk and pass numerous apartment entrances. A few weeks ago I'd go for a run 3 or 4 times a week, didn't think anything of it. The last two weeks people have given me looks when I pass, even some have yelled at me. One woman said I was too close to her apartment door and advised me to walk on the edge of the sidewalk, rather than in the middle. I had one lady point to the road next to the sidewalk when we approached each other... a six-lane state highway, cars whizzing past at 30-35 mph. (The reduction in traffic during the pandemic is counterbalanced by the fact that all the cars still on the road are psychotic delivery drivers or aspiring street-racer bros.) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GDAWG 1,787 Posted April 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, selby56 said: This is how I feel too. I live in an urban area less than a mile from downtown Pittsburgh, so when I run it is inevitable I will pass people on the sidewalk and pass numerous apartment entrances. A few weeks ago I'd go for a run 3 or 4 times a week, didn't think anything of it. The last two weeks people have given me looks when I pass, even some have yelled at me. One woman said I was too close to her apartment door and advised me to walk on the edge of the sidewalk, rather than in the middle. The one issue I have is when I am outside for a walk, and on both sides of the street, the side I am on and the other side, there are people, which means that I would have to go to the middle of the street if there are no cars. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the admiral 28,304 Posted April 12, 2020 I try to operate under the assumption that we're all doing our best out there. I normally give people a wide berth when I run, so not much of a change to my routine. I wouldn't dream of getting up in someone's face about inadequate social distancing. What are all the ways that that could end poorly? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infrared41 9,123 Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, the admiral said: We're a nation of Howard Hugheses (or is the correct plural "Howards Hughes"?). No idea. I would have taken the easy way out and said we're a nation of people who are acting like Howard Hughes. But I do respect your going for the higher degree of difficulty. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digby 6,135 Posted April 12, 2020 I tend to think that breaking the six-foot bubble for 0.3 seconds walking past someone is probably not the transmission risk scenario we need to be worrying about. But if I share that opinion on most social media i'll be called a grandpa killer and have a Medium post thrown at me. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DG_ThenNowForever 15,460 Posted April 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Digby said: I tend to think that breaking the six-foot bubble for 0.3 seconds walking past someone is probably not the transmission risk scenario we need to be worrying about. But if I share that opinion on most social media i'll be called a grandpa killer and have a Medium post thrown at me. I'm finding there are some people who are aggressively not moving over on the sidewalk. Or aggressively oblivious. I walk in the street to keep safe distance because living in a downtown area, I don't trust anyway. Living in any area, actually, I don't trust anyone. I also can't separate entitlement and white privilege from some people's actions either. Like, they know they're not infected (how could they know?), so you have to move out of their way. It's a weird dynamic that exists in Seattle in general and is more pronounced during these times. Social niceties in the time of coronavirus. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Comet 1,558 Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, selby56 said: This is how I feel too. I live in an urban area less than a mile from downtown Pittsburgh, so when I run it is inevitable I will pass people on the sidewalk and pass numerous apartment entrances. A few weeks ago I'd go for a run 3 or 4 times a week, didn't think anything of it. The last two weeks people have given me looks when I pass, even some have yelled at me. One woman said I was too close to her apartment door and advised me to walk on the edge of the sidewalk, rather than in the middle. NGL, every day I increasingly feel that moving back to the suburbs from downtown Kansas City at the end of January is really looking like a smart move in hindsight. If there's going to be any lasting trend from this, Millenials and Zoomers are probably going to be emptying from the cities sooner rather than later. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digby 6,135 Posted April 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, Red Comet said: NGL, every day I increasingly feel that moving back to the suburbs from downtown Kansas City at the end of January is really looking like a smart move in hindsight. If there's going to be any lasting trend from this, Millenials and Zoomers are probably going to be emptying from the cities sooner rather than later. think it’s too early to guess at that. Just as likely that all the empty nesters buying fancy condos downtown are gonna be the ones escaping and driving up prices in the burbs this time. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Comet 1,558 Posted April 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Digby said: think it’s too early to guess at that. Just as likely that all the empty nesters buying fancy condos downtown are gonna be the ones escaping and driving up prices in the burbs this time. Millennials were already moving out to the suburbs even before COVID. Seeing one of the great drawbacks of densely populated areas play out in real time should only accelerate this transition. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GDAWG 1,787 Posted April 13, 2020 Most of ya'll might not agree with me on this but I do think sports will be back sooner or later. Having said that, I think the first sport that will be back live to provide new content will be golf. Golf seems the most "social distant" of all the sports anyways. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Comet 1,558 Posted April 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, GDAWG said: Most of ya'll might not agree with me on this but I do think sports will be back sooner or later. Having said that, I think the first sport that will be back live to provide new content will be golf. Golf seems the most "social distant" of all the sports anyways. I do. If this is any indicator (assuming social distancing through May), then by and large, COVID would go dormant by the 4th of July. By then, I could see plans to play baseball games be discussed with a projected start date solidly in place. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GDAWG 1,787 Posted April 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Red Comet said: I do. If this is any indicator (assuming social distancing through May), then by and large, COVID would go dormant by the 4th of July. By then, I could see plans to play baseball games be discussed with a projected start date solidly in place. The issue is if fans are willing to fill out 15,000 seat arenas or 50,000 seat stadiums in late summer and the fall, and I am a bit skeptical that will happen. I think we'll see more individual sports like golf and tennis return before the NBA, NHL, MLB or MLS. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Comet 1,558 Posted April 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, GDAWG said: The issue is if fans are willing to fill out 15,000 seat arenas or 50,000 seat stadiums in late summer and the fall, and I am a bit skeptical that will happen. I think we'll see more individual sports like golf and tennis return before the NBA, NHL, MLB or MLS. Then MLB should only consist of Oakland, Cincinnati, Tampa Bay, Kansas City, Baltimore and Miami for the time being. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digby 6,135 Posted April 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, GDAWG said: Most of ya'll might not agree with me on this but I do think sports will be back sooner or later. Having said that, I think the first sport that will be back live to provide new content will be golf. Golf seems the most "social distant" of all the sports anyways. This is neither here nor there, but I drove by a closed and gated-off golf course the other day and found myself seething at that fact. Close up shop, fine, but let people use that perfectly good open nature space for their exercise! An incredible waste. Not a lot of good neighbors in the world of golf, though. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the admiral 28,304 Posted April 13, 2020 Golf is the one sport that deserves to die. Screw golf. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBTV 19,567 Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, the admiral said: Golf is the one competitive activity that deserves to die. Screw golf. FYP 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the admiral 28,304 Posted April 13, 2020 99 times out of 100 I get really snippy about "fixed your post" posts but you know what I let that one get right by me 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GDAWG 1,787 Posted April 13, 2020 These folks are still active even though it's not a sport: 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digby 6,135 Posted April 13, 2020 Competitive activity OR active leisure setting for the country's worst people to conspire 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites