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On 2/7/2021 at 2:08 PM, colortv said:

 

 

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The saturation on those Jets and Packers logos make me physically angry

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1 hour ago, ramsjetsthunder said:

 

The saturation on those Jets and Packers logos make me physically angry

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Being I was mixing acrylic inks, I was okay with less than 100% perfection in these cases. I did re-paint the Jets logo when the new one was released and did make it a bit darker to match.

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4 hours ago, colortv said:

Rams in gold..

Yeah. Everyone loves (loved?) to post that painting you use as an avatar as proof as to why the Rams should wear gold, but when you actually see those uniforms in action (and the 75th anniversary season is the perfect chance to see them) they really underwhelm.

 

I like the Rams' 1973-1999 look, and the 2015-2019 colour rush jerseys were great gold versions of it, but the Rams' primaries should be blue and white. Gold can be a once/twice a year alternate, but no more than that.

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5 hours ago, IceCap said:

Yeah. Everyone loves (loved?) to post that painting you use as an avatar as proof as to why the Rams should wear gold, but when you actually see those uniforms in action (and the 75th anniversary season is the perfect chance to see them) they really underwhelm.

 

I like the Rams' 1973-1999 look, and the 2015-2019 colour rush jerseys were great gold versions of it, but the Rams' primaries should be blue and white. Gold can be a once/twice a year alternate, but no more than that.

Looking at those videos, I honestly really like the look, and bet it would look even better with HD TV. 

 

The only concerning thing about it would be that both opposing teams had to wear their color jersey, implying that yellow wouldn’t provide enough contrast against white. I’m more than happy with color v color matchups, but I just wonder if it would work for the Rams as an alternative to WAH or if they would mostly wear it on the road.

 

I completely agree though, blue should be the primary home option, and white the away. It would be nice to see yellow as an alternate once or twice a year, however.

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On 1/26/2021 at 2:25 PM, gosioux76 said:

 

I'll give you that. But squeezing them onto that small space with TV numbers and a swoosh is not my idea of a good or ideal look. 

Since they don't need the TV numbers anymore they could have had the ram horns take up part of the shoulder as well as the sleeve caps. 

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6 hours ago, IceCap said:

Yeah. Everyone loves (loved?) to post that painting you use as an avatar as proof as to why the Rams should wear gold, but when you actually see those uniforms in action (and the 75th anniversary season is the perfect chance to see them) they really underwhelm.

 

I like the Rams' 1973-1999 look, and the 2015-2019 colour rush jerseys were great gold versions of it, but the Rams' primaries should be blue and white. Gold can be a once/twice a year alternate, but no more than that.

That’s because if the colors. The colors in the mock-up i posted a couple pages back pop much more, at least in the top picture. It’s funny, the colors in the painting everyone’s loves so much are way closer to the Rams new colors than the old ones, but no one wants to say that ...

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That particular yellow jersey doesn't look good with white pants.  I'd suggest that if they went with yellow, the pants should be either the new blue, or they mix in some white on the jersey so the pants don't look so out of place (but that can be tough with a light base color.)

 

Also, there's just so damn much yellow on those old jerseys because they were literally so much bigger.  Between how loose and baggy they were, how much material had to go over the giant shoulder pads, and how long the sleeves were, there was just... a lot.  Maybe the white pants would look fine with a yellow jersey made in today's template, which would be roughly 30% the size of Bettis' from that video.

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7 minutes ago, colortv said:

That’s because if the colors. The colors in the mock-up i posted a couple pages back pop much more, at least in the top picture. It’s funny, the colors in the painting everyone’s loves so much are way closer to the Rams new colors than the old ones, but no one wants to say that ...

I seriously think you might be color blind. The current yellow that the rams use is nothing like the gold used by rams in those throwback uniforms or even the pic in your profile. 

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37 minutes ago, dont care said:

I seriously think you might be color blind. The current yellow that the rams use is nothing like the gold used by rams in those throwback uniforms or even the pic in your profile. 

No one said the current colors are like the throwback. Second. Take it easy.. You’ve been chasing after me in this thread and I don’t really care to engage with you.

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2 minutes ago, colortv said:

No one said the current colors are like the throwback. Second. Take it easy.. You’ve been chasing after me in this thread and I don’t really care to engage with you.

Didn't you just say that here? 
That’s because if the colors. The colors in the mock-up i posted a couple pages back pop much more, at least in the top picture. It’s funny, the colors in the painting everyone’s loves so much are way closer to the Rams new colors than the old ones, but no one wants to say that ...

 

EDIT - bolded what I thought was where you compared the new to the old

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20 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

Didn't you just say that here? 
That’s because if the colors. The colors in the mock-up i posted a couple pages back pop much more, at least in the top picture. It’s funny, the colors in the painting everyone’s loves so much are way closer to the Rams new colors than the old ones, but no one wants to say that ...

 

EDIT - bolded what I thought was where you compared the new to the old

It’s a painting not the actual uniform.

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1 hour ago, colortv said:

That’s because if the colors. The colors in the mock-up i posted a couple pages back pop much more, at least in the top picture. It’s funny, the colors in the painting everyone’s loves so much are way closer to the Rams new colors than the old ones, but no one wants to say that ...

 

The yellow isn't close at all.

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41 minutes ago, colortv said:

It’s a painting not the actual uniform.

Which doesn't address the issue.

You said 'the colors in the painting everyone’s loves so much are way closer to the Rams new colors than the old ones'. 

 

don't care said 'The current yellow that the rams use is nothing like the gold used by rams in those throwback uniforms or even the pic in your profile'.

 

No one has agreed that those two colors are close other than you, yet you come back with 'it's a painting not the actual uniform'. YOU were the one who pointed to the painting colors as being close to the new uniform.

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4 hours ago, MJD7 said:

 

 

The only concerning thing about it would be that both opposing teams had to wear their color jersey, implying that yellow wouldn’t provide enough contrast against white. I’m more than happy with color v color matchups, but I just wonder if it would work for the Rams as an alternative to WAH or if they would mostly wear it on the road.

 

 

 

No, they didn't have to wear their color jersey. That was just how they did it for the 75th season. Usually, in the NFL the gold home jersey is worn against a road white and it looks fine. It would never work for a football team to try the Lakers' sub gold for white trick.  Road uniform are white.

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8 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

No, they didn't have to wear their color jersey. That was just how they did it for the 75th season. Usually, in the NFL the gold home jersey is worn against a road white and it looks fine. It would never work for a football team to try the Lakers' sub gold for white trick.  Road uniform are white.

Yea, I figured the other team wearing white would be fine, but I just wasn’t sure if that was the opposing teams’ (the Chiefs & 49ers, in that case) reasoning for wearing their home jerseys.

 

It’s a shame that, if the Rams are in fact the next team to wear a yellow/athletic gold jersey, that it probably won’t turn out that great, judging by the current template. Here’s to hoping that it would be a throwback if they do decide to go that route.

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The reason the yellow was paired against dark in '94 is that some teams like the rams only had one throwback while other teams had dark and white. That game was in kc so they wanted to wear their home reds and the rams wore the only throwback they had.

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4 hours ago, colortv said:

That’s because if the colors. The colors in the mock-up i posted a couple pages back pop much more, at least in the top picture. It’s funny, the colors in the painting everyone’s loves so much are way closer to the Rams new colors than the old ones, but no one wants to say that ...

1- People are tired of that painting. It's become a meme. 

 

2- You seem to be implying that people are being unfair to the Rams' current unis by not acknowledging the colour scheme. The Rams unis have gotten a lot of deserved flack, but I have seen people consistently praise the colours as something they got right (aside from the bone). 

Personally? I like the blue but think the yellow is too bright. They need to pair the current blue with the throwback athletic gold. 

 

Ultimately the Rams' unis remind me of the Buffalo Sabres' Buffaslug uniforms. A redesign that had a simple task (go back to the old look everyone likes) that they botched by overthinking it. 

I also remember that during the Buffaslug's panning here one Sabres fan was very outspoken in support for the look. He even claimed I, a Maple Leafs fan, was jealous. The Leafs have always had very traditional unis, and this guy claimed "well the Sabres will look like they belong in this century." 

 

Well the Sabres' hyper modern Buffaslug unis lasted the bare minimum before they went to a version of their old unis with a navy blue base and silver outlines. Only to go to a new uni after that, that was basically a tweak of their classic identity everyone wanted all along. 

So that guy- wherever he is- is cheering for a Sabres team that looks just as traditional as my Leafs do. 

 

This exchange has stuck with me because it highlights the perils of going all in on a very trendy uniform. What is trendy today won't be trendy in two years, but what is classic today will be classic in ten years. 

So my point is this- the Rams' unis were made to represent a very select number of design trends. Those will eventually go out of style and the team will rebrand. Likely to some version of a more classic look. 

And then all of this white knighting for "bone" coloured unis, gradients, malformed helmet horns, and nametag patches will seem silly. 

 

You can say all of the above for the Falcons' new abominations too. 

 

Now does this mean that every new design is meant to be trashed? No. There's nothing inherently wrong with a trendy look provided you know that's what it is and understand it as a snapshot of that era in time. Stuff like that can even give a look a certain charm. This even works for traditional unis that are objectively not great- I love the classic Dolphins logo because its grungy stylings put me in mind of a 1960s/70s Florida filled with roadside attractions and a Miami that was just finding its footing. 

 

Modern design can even become timeless. Look at the Bucs. Their uniform uses a very modern colour (uniform-wise) in pewter. The uniform itself is very traditional, but the colour scheme makes it stand out as a modern thing. 

The Eagles and Ravens do the same thing with modern colour schemes and their number fonts. Very modern elements, but the unis are very traditional in style. 

You can also look at any Chargers identity sans the 2007-2019 look. Or the Bengals' 1981-2003 look. Both used modern concepts (lightning bolts and tiger stripes) in traditional ways by using them to replicate UCLA-style striping. 

The Panthers and Texans also do something similar, using traditional uniform elements but putting just a bit of a twist on them to make them modern. Be it through the use of modern colours, a tapered stripe here or there, or a unique number font (as an aside the Panthers need to go back to the Hulkamania wordmark). 

 

All of these uniforms managed to shake up the traditional NFL aesthetic and did it without all of the obnoxious design elements we see today on "modern" uniforms. Ironically the Rams' 1973-1999 uniform (and the 2000-2019 look that followed) did the same sorts of things- using non-traditional elements in traditional ways to create fun, modern designs that didn't look like clown suits. 

 

What the Rams have now is very much a uniform made to cater to the design trends of 2018-2020. Which is fine. Just as long as everyone understands that's what it is- a disposable design that will get cycled out once trends change in a way to no longer make it interesting.  

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4 hours ago, Sec19Row53 said:

Which doesn't address the issue.

You said 'the colors in the painting everyone’s loves so much are way closer to the Rams new colors than the old ones'. 

 

don't care said 'The current yellow that the rams use is nothing like the gold used by rams in those throwback uniforms or even the pic in your profile'.

 

No one has agreed that those two colors are close other than you, yet you come back with 'it's a painting not the actual uniform'. YOU were the one who pointed to the painting colors as being close to the new uniform.

 

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1 hour ago, IceCap said:

1- People are tired of that painting. It's become a meme. 

 

2- You seem to be implying that people are being unfair to the Rams' current unis by not acknowledging the colour scheme. The Rams unis have gotten a lot of deserved flack, but I have seen people consistently praise the colours as something they got right (aside from the bone). 

Personally? I like the blue but think the yellow is too bright. They need to pair the current blue with the throwback athletic gold. 

 

Ultimately the Rams' unis remind me of the Buffalo Sabres' Buffaslug uniforms. A redesign that had a simple task (go back to the old look everyone likes) that they botched by overthinking it. 

I also remember that during the Buffaslug's panning here one Sabres fan was very outspoken in support for the look. He even claimed I, a Maple Leafs fan, was jealous. The Leafs have always had very traditional unis, and this guy claimed "well the Sabres will look like they belong in this century." 

 

Well the Sabres' hyper modern Buffaslug unis lasted the bare minimum before they went to a version of their old unis with a navy blue base and silver outlines. Only to go to a new uni after that, that was basically a tweak of their classic identity everyone wanted all along. 

So that guy- wherever he is- is cheering for a Sabres team that looks just as traditional as my Leafs do. 

 

This exchange has stuck with me because it highlights the perils of going all in on a very trendy uniform. What is trendy today won't be trendy in two years, but what is classic today will be classic in ten years. 

So my point is this- the Rams' unis were made to represent a very select number of design trends. Those will eventually go out of style and the team will rebrand. Likely to some version of a more classic look. 

And then all of this white knighting for "bone" coloured unis, gradients, malformed helmet horns, and nametag patches will seem silly. 

 

You can say all of the above for the Falcons' new abominations too. 

 

Now does this mean that every new design is meant to be trashed? No. There's nothing inherently wrong with a trendy look provided you know that's what it is and understand it as a snapshot of that era in time. Stuff like that can even give a look a certain charm. This even works for traditional unis that are objectively not great- I love the classic Dolphins logo because its grungy stylings put me in mind of a 1960s/70s Florida filled with roadside attractions and a Miami that was just finding its footing. 

 

Modern design can even become timeless. Look at the Bucs. Their uniform uses a very modern colour (uniform-wise) in pewter. The uniform itself is very traditional, but the colour scheme makes it stand out as a modern thing. 

The Eagles and Ravens do the same thing with modern colour schemes and their number fonts. Very modern elements, but the unis are very traditional in style. 

You can also look at any Chargers identity sans the 2007-2019 look. Or the Bengals' 1981-2003 look. Both used modern concepts (lightning bolts and tiger stripes) in traditional ways by using them to replicate UCLA-style striping. 

The Panthers and Texans also do something similar, using traditional uniform elements but putting just a bit of a twist on them to make them modern. Be it through the use of modern colours, a tapered stripe here or there, or a unique number font (as an aside the Panthers need to go back to the Hulkamania wordmark). 

 

All of these uniforms managed to shake up the traditional NFL aesthetic and did it without all of the obnoxious design elements we see today on "modern" uniforms. Ironically the Rams' 1973-1999 uniform (and the 2000-2019 look that followed) did the same sorts of things- using non-traditional elements in traditional ways to create fun, modern designs that didn't look like clown suits. 

 

What the Rams have now is very much a uniform made to cater to the design trends of 2018-2020. Which is fine. Just as long as everyone understands that's what it is- a disposable design that will get cycled out once trends change in a way to no longer make it interesting.  

 

I think the gradient numbers could very well be retained long-term.

 

Look at the Lakers dropshadow uniform numbers.

 

If they had never had those but all of a sudden thrown them on, people would be shouting to the high heavens that they were gimmicky.

 

The gradient numbers match the image you want to project as a Los Angeles market team, glitz.

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