Sec19Row53 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sport said: it's pretty good. Whoever drew this is talented and probably very very handsome. (I prefer the updated, simplified version) I don't see it. Sorry, @Sport , but that first one is an overdesigned mess. The second one is better, but still needs to be simplified a bit. As to the testicles - it looks like Peter from Family Guy's chin. Same issue. It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Sec19Row53 said: Sorry, @Sport , but that first one is an overdesigned mess. I agree. That's why I scaled it back. 1 minute ago, Sec19Row53 said: The second one is better, but still needs to be simplified a bit. I disagree. You get too simple and you lose many of the traces to the original. 1 minute ago, Sec19Row53 said: As to the testicles - it looks like Peter from Family Guy's chin. Same issue. That's just what people's chins look like. Notably Errol Flynn's, the model for the original and my redesign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafiaman Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, Sport said: it's pretty good. Whoever drew this is talented and probably very very handsome. (I prefer the updated, simplified version) I don't see it. Can’t unsee it now that it’s been mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sport said: That's just what people's chins look like. Notably Errol Flynn's, the model for the original and my redesign. Still a little ballsy, IMO It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Sport said: I'm willing to wager they'll use a white helmet so they have the the ability to wear creamsicle throwbacks, which is another unintended consequence of the silly one helmet rule. I'd prefer pewter (with a black facemask!), but I could live with white if done right. Big if. I've prepared myself for a white helmet, if for the ability for the throwback uni alone. My personal non-negotiables are red primary home jersey and the flag logo (though not perfect) remains primary and unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewMLind Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Personally, I see no need for the throwback uniform if they can make an orange alternate. Use the Super Bowl-era uniforms as a base design and add a new custom number font that has some sort of pirate effect. Have three sets of pants (pewter with orange-red-orange stripes, pewter with red-orange-red stripes that match the alternate and white with pewter-orange-red-orange-pewter stripes). Keep the oversized helmet logo if you must. Then you get a good combination of all three eras without overcorrecting and sacrificing pewter in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel75 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 There just isn’t enough orange on the helmets to balance out a primarily orange jersey. The concept looks far too strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewMLind Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Found a concept (https://imgur.com/a/YLA3yLV) that perfectly describes my thoughts, though I'd scrap those specific white pants because of the lack of primary color balance between the helmet, jersey and pants. Beyond that, I see nothing wrong with the pewter helmet, orange jersey and pewter pants. And shoot, if you wanted to, have an alternate logo that flips the colors of the flag and football to offset your perceived color imbalance on this set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk36 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I don't think it has to be that difficult... Design Hovie Studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridleylash Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 The problem with pewter is that, since Nike took over, it's consistently looked like an ugly dull brownish-gray on the actual uniforms, which they seem physically incapable of fixing. When the pewter on the jersey actually matched the helmet somewhat, it was fine. But it hasn't ever since Nike took over; we have a glossy helmet and a matte jersey. It'd be better to go with colors we know Nike can at least make look good on matte jerseys, rather then insist on a color Nike cannot make look good on matte jerseys. Going full-on creamsicle Bucs outright negates the issue altogether by not even needing pewter (plus, these jersey matchups looks friggin' sliiiick); Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOVER Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, pagan696 said: i see that both UT and TB are using PMS 151 orange. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ridleylash said: (plus, these jersey matchups looks friggin' sliiiick); Don't forget the most beautiful playoff matchup of all time, the 1979 NFC Championship Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridleylash Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Don't forget the most beautiful playoff matchup of all time, the 1979 NFC Championship Game. Oh, man, how could I have forgotten that beauty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawagner011 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 To me, the Bucs look best in red and pewter. The throwbacks are great but I think they’re best left in the past. What I don’t want to see is the Bucs try to blend the eras (such as a white helmet and red jersey). They shouldn’t sacrifice their main look solely so they can revive their throwbacks. If they like the throwbacks that much, they should just be the primaries. It’s got to be one or the other. Red/pewter or throwbacks. The only blending I could see would be some of these orange/pewter concepts. That might work depending on the execution but I think they’d still be best as alternates and use red as the primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavePunter Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, hugevolsfan said: could not disagree more with this statement I have hardly ever seen a uniform look good when nothing from the helmets match the jersey... one exception I can think of is Giants away it should not look good but for some reason I like it... The reason you like it is because it works.. same with the Broncos orange jerseys and navy helmets.. also, it wouldn't be a case of "nothing" matching the jersey (and only really talking about the creamsicle jersey anyway), as the creamsicle/orange football would match the jersey.. like the orange bronco mane or falcons wing highlights.. plus if tying the red flag to the jersey is so important, work a bit more red into the jersey and pant striping.. I honestly think the current or super bowl era helmet with the super bowl era pants would look great with the creamsicle jersey pictured earlier.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBigMad Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 9:18 AM, Ridleylash said: The way I see it, the Bucs nailed themselves the first go around. Red/orange/white is a perfectly Floridian color scheme, and Bucco Bruce is a great logo that, to me at least, is more timeless then a generic pirate flag. It captures the essence of the Errol Flynn, Jean Lafitte-styled pirate motif that has become far and away the most popular and enduring vision of pirates in popular culture; the designers of the look even said as much in their official statement. And it's very evocative, which is key to a sports brand. There's a reason those uniforms and Bucco Bruce have endured as popular despite the team's poor record in them; they're iconic. Just like the Expos' "elb", the look itself is iconic in spite of the team's poor record in them; That looks gorgeous, to me; it's bright and vibrant, looks perfectly Floridian and more then anything it's unique. Predominantly-red uniforms aren't exclusively Bucs; you have the Cardinals, the 49ers, the Chiefs all using predominantly-red dark jerseys as well. This is 100% Buccaneers, nobody else in the NFL has uniforms like this in terms of a primary color scheme. And if Nike clearly cannot get pewter right, I'd rather the team just ditch pewter altogether and go to a look that Nike can get right. Plus it's not like the Bucs now are much better then the Bucs when Bucco Bruce was their main uniforms; the pewter is just as associated with losing and sub-.500 seasons as the Bucco uniforms were at this point. As for the Super Bowl...the Bucs haven't even won a playoff game since winning that Super Bowl, having made all of two Wild Card Round appearances and getting beaten both times by the Redskins in 2005 and the Giants in 2007, a team that set records for being the worst team to ever reach a Super Bowl before they one-upped themselves in 2011. The Bucs are 12 straight seasons, going on 13 depending on how next season turns out, without making the playoffs in the current colors; the Bruce Bucs went 14 seasons between the '82 Wild Card appearance and the rebrand. They're literally 3 seasons, potentially 2, from matching the Bruce Bucs in terms of playoff futility, and one Super Bowl win nearly 2 decades ago shouldn't really be a reason to hold onto a uniform that is universally associated with Jameis Winston's turnover factory and incredible levels of ineptitude on the football field. You my friend, have just won this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L10nheart404 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 This is a clean looking game! I will say the bucs do look nice, but pewter is unique as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnPheitseog Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 echoing what has been said. Unique ≠ good. but, I think the pewter looks good and is the best choice for a helmet for the bucs. Also pants, so that way they will never match a jersey, pants, and socks. Formerly known as DiePerske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel75 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Ridleylash said: Good grief that’s beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroCree Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 It's a bad habit we all do but we really shouldn't use a teams performance to determine whether a uniform set is good. By that logic, the Browns shouldn't go back to their classic look because they haven't won anything since coming back in 99. As for Bucco Bruce, yeah. those photos really make the whole set look great but should they really return full time? Honestly, it's the logo. Bucco Bruce does not make a good logo. He's never made a good logo. I'd rather have the the Skull and Flag over a winking dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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