The_Admiral Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 The Tribe adding silver in the aughts was one of the dumbest design choices they ever made. It was never dumber than when they took Chief Wahoo, the most antiquated logo in the majors, and outlined it in silver -- for the fyoo-chor! ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 hours ago, kimball said: If you want to tie the team name with tradition, while avoiding a past Cleveland baseball name like the Naps or Spiders, there’s a perfect name just waiting to be used ... Cleveland Browns Taps into the tradition of baseball/football teams sharing names, it’s not a uncommonly used name (St. Louis) and you could keep the look simple with a brown and orange color scheme. Maybe even bring back the elf? Unfortunately, the modern hyper-protective approach to trademarks and branding prevent there from being a Cleveland baseball Browns. I agree, it would be one of the top options if possible. It still slightly baffles me that there was a St. Louis football Cardinals as late as 1987. I think I might've posted something similar earlier in this thread, but don't feel like looking back and the search function's bricked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Rename them the Cleveland Jets, and then change the colors to crimson and clover. Sorry. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, the admiral said: The Tribe adding silver in the aughts was one of the dumbest design choices they ever made. It was never dumber than when they took Chief Wahoo, the most antiquated logo in the majors, and outlined it in silver -- for the fyoo-chor! No kidding. I hate double outlines 90% of the time. It was not an exception to the rule. Also, there’s only one way to sum this up: You guys found a way to make Wahoo’s structural problems (with details and outlining) even worse! MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenaciousG Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 This just reminds me how awful Chief Wahoo is from a design standpoint AND a symbolism standpoint. I might understand if there was any nostalgia with it but this is like people telling me the Mariners’ “S” is untouchable because we had a couple good non-championship years with it. The only people who like Chief Wahoo at this point are the loud, vocal online minority who think that the “PC Police” are a much bigger problem than the 75,000 other, actually bigger problems in the world. My teamsNCAA: Washington StateMLB: Seattle MarinersNFL: Seattle SeahawksNBA: Portland TrailblazersEPL: Liverpool FCMLS: Seattle Sounders FCNHL: Pittsburgh Penguins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Cleveland Cleavers. They could give out foam cleavers for the kids to chop with. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, TenaciousG said: This just reminds me how awful Chief Wahoo is from a design standpoint I always thought it was a great aesthetic on the uniforms, especially the cap. It's very bright and bold and stands out Quote The only people who like Chief Wahoo at this point are the loud, vocal online minority who think that the “PC Police” are a much bigger problem than the 75,000 other, actually bigger problems in the world. Nah I just like how it looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, ManillaToad said: I always thought it was a great aesthetic on the uniforms, especially the cap. It's very bright and bold and stands out Nah I just like how it looks It’s the fugliest logo in MLB history. The line weights are all over the place, the detailing on the teeth is very degraded, the lines near the nose makes it look like he has a mustache, and the ears and feather details might as well be from two separate types of logos. It was hideous and I’m glad it’s gone from both a design and social perspective. Wahoo needed to go away back in 1994. Dumping Wahoo and/or getting the name changed should’ve been a requirement to get public money for the new stadium. MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, ManillaToad said: I always thought it was a great aesthetic on the uniforms, especially the cap. It's very bright and bold and stands out I thought the cap was the worst use of it. Major-league teams should have letters on their caps. I liked the previous block C with the rounded-off interior corners. Had it not been for Major League raising Cleveland Indians awareness to new heights, I think it probably would have gone by the wayside in the '90s, though the idea of the Ohio legislature muscling them into getting rid of it presupposes a social climate that I struggle to believe existed in 1991. It wouldn't even exist now if the cops hadn't killed one too many black guys while everyone had nothing to do. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, the admiral said: I thought the cap was the worst use of it. Major-league teams should have letters on their caps. Even the Blue Jays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakfu Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 My perspective as a fan of the team. - Wahoo definitely had to go - Team name should go, but I don't agree that keeping it one more year is some huge hypocrisy. It's not PC. But it's not a blatant slur like Washington or the cartoon equivalent of a slur like Wahoo. - That said, I'll likely lose interest if the name's anything other than Spiders. Anything new feels like a different expansion team. -Of course, I've already lost interest in a broken sport without a salary cap and a team who won't even invest when they're at the cusp of a championship. -Learned a lot of history lately. We know Spiders were a different franchise, but the AL club replaced them and purchased their assets, so there is a thread of continuity. -Thought the Sockalexis origin story was bogus, but not entirely. The Spiders were called Indians when he played for them, whether it was in honor or mockery...and the Indians name revived that name at the height of the Braves popularity. So ultimately the name did originate from him, just with a degree of separation. So if the Spiders were also called the Indians, the Indians should now be called the Spiders. I just can't see a new modern name for a 120 year old team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasaltvanilla Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 7 hours ago, SFGiants58 said: I'd buy a Cleveland Rich Evans cap. Even if he is from Milwaukee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.C.D Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 The wahoo logo always seemed like an iconic baseball logo to me. I think it's because it reminded me of Looney Tunes. The Major League movies probably had something to do with it too. The older I got realized what it really was and I understood the anti-wahoo sentiment. I've never been a fan of the plain C as the replacement though. The fact that the C was so basic (but mostly) that it didn't match any other part of the uniform has always bugged me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCapitanCranky Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Speaking of Major League....why not the Cleveland Wild Things? Or maybe the Cleveland Careys? Cleveland Drews? Sydney Swans / Newcastle Knights / Newcastle United Jets / Sydney Thunder / Sydney Kings / NSW Waratahs / NSW Pride / Australia Manchester United / Montreal Canadiens / Green Bay Packers / New York Yankees / Bayern Munich / Ajax Amsterdam / Glasgow Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 9 hours ago, ManillaToad said: Even the Blue Jays? Ehhh, special dispensation for the Blue Jays. The original logo was so good. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, the admiral said: Ehhh, special dispensation for the Blue Jays. The original logo was so good. The Orioles could and should be given a pass too. The O’s logo never looked good and any B logo is a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, DNAsports said: The O’s logo never looked good and any B logo is a miss. @TheHealthiestScratch unwittingly created the best possible cap logo for the Orioles. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM0313 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 16 hours ago, DG_ThenNowForever said: Rename them the Cleveland Jets, and then change the colors to crimson and clover. Sorry. Over and over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM0313 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 12 hours ago, SFGiants58 said: It’s the fugliest logo in MLB history. The line weights are all over the place, the detailing on the teeth is very degraded, the lines near the nose makes it look like he has a mustache, and the ears and feather details might as well be from two separate types of logos. It was hideous and I’m glad it’s gone from both a design and social perspective. Wahoo needed to go away back in 1994. Dumping Wahoo and/or getting the name changed should’ve been a requirement to get public money for the new stadium. Chief Wahoo didn’t have a mustache?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 9 hours ago, seasaltvanilla said: I'd buy a Cleveland Rich Evans cap. Even if he is from Milwaukee. He’s a mascot we all can get behind. Now, do we want modern flavor or the classic? MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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