guest23 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Gothamite said: Of course it is. But that doesn’t mean everything they think is in the best interests of ownership is actually in the best interest of ownership. The cartel is more or less capable depending on who comprises those 32 votes. And in the 90s, those 32 votes made some pretty bad decisions. Other than shortsighted awarding of a franchise to jax, I am having a hard time pinpointing any bad financial moves that the ownership collective has made. Since tagliabue they have been hellbent on growing tv revenue which they have excelled at. Now since goodell took over they have had multiple pr failures and scandals which has generated bad press but any of their recent viewership issues are more a byproduct of the secular decline of broadcast tv. The biggest long term financial risk that they have taken in my opinion is saturating the calendar with so many non-Sunday game because that has really diluted the product in my opinion. I would like to hear about some of these other decisions that I am probably overlooking though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 17 hours ago, CaliforniaGlowin said: Y'all really want that? No, but it would give Nike an excuse to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colortv Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Which teams have gone the longest without a major uniform change/rebrand? Excluding "traditional" teams that won't change like Green Bay, Las Vegas, Chicago, Steelers, Chiefs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, colortv said: Which teams have gone the longest without a major uniform change/rebrand? Excluding "traditional" teams that won't change like Green Bay, Las Vegas, Chicago, Steelers, Chiefs? “Which teams have gone the longest without a change other than the teams that have gone the longest without a change?” 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsjetsthunder Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, colortv said: Which teams have gone the longest without a major uniform change/rebrand? Excluding "traditional" teams that won't change like Green Bay, Las Vegas, Chicago, Steelers, Chiefs? Broncos have gotta be up there. They've had their same basic template since the mid-90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, colortv said: Which teams have gone the longest without a major uniform change/rebrand? Excluding "traditional" teams that won't change like Green Bay, Las Vegas, Chicago, Steelers, Chiefs? Depending on how technical you want to be, the Eagles are either 1996 or 2003. 2 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, BBTV said: Depending on how technical you want to be, the Eagles are either 1996 or 2003. Well there are the panthers who never made a change since 1995 when they were founded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, dont care said: Well there are the panthers who never made a change since 1995 when they were founded. Technically they changed their logo, but I wouldn't count that. If they've essentially never changed, then should they be put in the category as the Packers, Chiefs, et al? They haven't changed until they have. 3 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, BBTV said: Technically they changed their logo, but I wouldn't count that. If they've essentially never changed, then should they be put in the category as the Packers, Chiefs, et al? They haven't changed until they have. But the packers and chiefs have changed. Actually the packers have redesigned their uniforms after the panthers were founded. The chiefs changed their uniforms after moving to KC and changed from the Texans to the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 The biggest change the Panthers have ever made to the design of their uniform (aside from updating the logo, of course) was removing the logo from the pants in 2018 when they updated templates. The Panthers are a very traditionally-minded team in terms of uniform design and quite honestly they should stay that way. 5 the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fouhy12 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 34 minutes ago, dont care said: But the packers and chiefs have changed. Actually the packers have redesigned their uniforms after the panthers were founded. The chiefs changed their uniforms after moving to KC and changed from the Texans to the Chiefs. The Chiefs also changed their uniforms in 2012 when they moved to Nike. The stripes on the cuffs got moved to the sleeve. 1 fouhy12's NFL Concepts 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutmasterflex Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Based on this criteria, then it is the Broncos. They've been unchanged since 1997. Go A's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb105 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 If moving striping from the cuffs to the shoulder caps is a "major change", then wouldn't changing the primary home uniform constitute as a major change as well? Even if that weren't the case, the Cowboys redesigned in 1996, beating out the Broncos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 hours ago, dont care said: But the packers and chiefs have changed. Actually the packers have redesigned their uniforms after the panthers were founded. The chiefs changed their uniforms after moving to KC and changed from the Texans to the Chiefs. 10 hours ago, fouhy12 said: The Chiefs also changed their uniforms in 2012 when they moved to Nike. The stripes on the cuffs got moved to the sleeve. For purposes of this discussion, I think it's fair to say the Packers and Chiefs haven't changed their "basic look" for a long time. The OP counted the Steelers as a "traditional team that won't ever change", even though they changed their numbers (pretty dramatically) 20ish years ago. Now if you want to count the Packers stupidly adding the G to their sleeves as a big change, then OK, but IMO it didn't change their look. I think we're talking about full redesigns, like the Broncos going from orange crush to high-school side paneled trash, the Falcons going from Deion to the nascar-numbered set with all the piping, or the Eagles going from kelly green/silver to midnight green/black. 4 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwburke94 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 And on that note, here's the last major update for every team. I'm defining it as either a primary jersey color change or something casual fans would recognize as a new set. Browns: 2020 Buccaneers: 2020 Chargers: 2020 Falcons: 2020 Patriots: 2020 Rams: 2020 WFT: 2020 Jets; 2019 Jaguars: 2018 Titans: 2018 Lions: 2017 Dolphins: 2013 Vikings: 2013 Broncos: 2012 (primary jersey color change; white jersey last changed in 1997) Seahawks: 2012 Bills: 2011 49ers: 2009 Cardinals: 2005 Giants: 2005 Bengals: 2004 Texans: 2002 (never changed) Saints: 2000 Ravens: 1999 (minor tweaks in 2000) Steelers: 1997 Cowboys: 1996 Eagles: 1996 (minor tweaks in 2003) Panthers: 1995 (never changed) Packers: 1989 (I'm counting the sleeve G as a separate set; otherwise 1961) Colts: 1987 (they've made minor tweaks here and there, but nothing outright new) Bears: 1973 Raiders: 1971 Chiefs: 1968 (I'm counting the addition of the sleeve stripes; otherwise 1963, never changed post-relocation) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BandaBassotti Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, bwburke94 said: And on that note, here's the last major update for every team. I'm defining it as either a primary jersey color change or something casual fans would recognize as a new set. Dolphins: 2013 Dolphins 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1409 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, BandaBassotti said: Dolphins 2018 Don't really think casual fans noticed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Tom Brady was prepared to change his number to 7 if Chris Godwin didn’t want to give up 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, DNAsports said: Tom Brady was prepared to change his number to 7 if Chris Godwin didn’t want to give up 12 Only Tom Brady could make an act of deference in the douchiest way possible. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, burgundy said: Only Tom Brady could make an act of deference in the douchiest way possible. Is it though? A reminder on your chest to be even better than you already were is being an a-hole? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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