MilSox Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 23 hours ago, colortv said: You're comparing apples and oranges. Chicago and Milwaukee have combined metros of 11 million. Combined state population of 18 million. Sits in the middle of this region: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_Megalopolis NYC and Philly have combined metro populations of over 25 million. Sits in the middle of this region: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_megalopolis It's simpe numbers. In fairness, barely anyone lives in Illinois or Wisconsin outside of their main cities and their suburbs; save for the occasional college town. I'm not sure how much any NBA teams even draw from outside of their suburbs anyway. It's not like as it is, a whole lot of people are driving from Seymour, Scottsburg, or any of the towns on I-65 to see the Pacers on a Wednesday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimball Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, pepis21 said: IIRC it was only for 5 years after relocation, after that all rights belong to OKC so Seattle would need to fight for it. Yeah, there won't be a fight for it. And, I fully expect it won't be a shared history with OKC ... especially since after the move to OKC, the New Orleans Hornets/Pelicans gave their Charlotte history to the Bobcats/Hornets. I think at the time Stern and the NBA didn't want to fully commit to the Browns Deal. "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." Lily Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lana_del_Bae Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Seattle and Vegas are the only options here lol @ even considering KC, Pittsburgh, Norfolk etc. NBA doesn't need even more markets that their players don't even want to play in and will whine themselves out of at first opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepis21 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, sportsfan7 said: Nope, the rights to the Sonics history stay in Seattle forever. The OKC ownership group owed the city an extra $30 million (on top of the $45 million up front) for breaking the lease since Seattle didn't get an NBA team within 5 years. Ok, @Ridleylash was right. I found an article from 2008: https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/nba/seattle-to-retain-supersonics-banners-and-trophies/ Thunder owns name and logos of Sonics (and allowed to use their history) but when a new team arrive to Seattle they gonna transfer them without any cost. 1 hour ago, kimball said: Yeah, there won't be a fight for it. It was hyperbole. We all know that Thunder never wanted to be recognized as a Sonics so new Sonics would finally make them an expansion team they always want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colortv Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 Honestly, if the NBA wanted to, double expansion: Seattle and Vancouver Kansas City and Montreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd77 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 8:03 PM, SFGiants58 said: Norfolk lasted way longer in MLB relocation talks (from about 2003-04) than one would expect. Granted, they were the backup plan should DC not get its act together in building a stadium, but still! The Brewers were in the Virginia conversation in the late '90s too until Miller Park got built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will94 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Yet no love for Nashville????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Will94 said: Yet no love for Nashville????? No way. Not in a league with Memphis. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will94 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said: No way. Not in a league with Memphis. So Nashville's out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, Will94 said: So Nashville's out ? According to me, some guy on the internet? Yes. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimball Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 hours ago, colortv said: Honestly, if the NBA wanted to, double expansion: Seattle and Vancouver Kansas City and Montreal 32 teams is the magic number for U.S. pro sports. It makes sense for divisional groups and scheduling. After 32 would be 40, so in that case ... Seattle Vancouver Kansas City Montreal Louisville Las Vegas Pittsburgh Nashville San Diego St. Louis "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." Lily Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 This is starting to look like an ABA 2000 thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Will94 said: So Nashville's out ? It's like Tampa being brought up as an NBA expansion team. They're already in the market for Orlando broadcasts, so it's essentially cannibalism to the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 hours ago, kimball said: 32 teams is the magic number for U.S. pro sports. It makes sense for divisional groups and scheduling. After 32 would be 40, so in that case ... Ok....let not get ahead of ourselves. There has to be a limit, right? At some point you're just oversaturating your product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 In the NFL, players go where the money is, and there's only so much to go around, so every team has a legit chance of signing good players. In the NBA, the rules allow it so the best players have the leverage to pick and choose where they go (or at least where they won't go) so adding teams in places they don't want to be should be a non starter. As for Nashville, I'm not sure most NBA players want to go somewhere where the n-word is part of many people's everyday vocabulary (based on my limited experience of two weeks two years apart.) "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 17 hours ago, NicDB said: In fairness, barely anyone lives in Illinois or Wisconsin outside of their main cities and their suburbs No, this is actually a big difference between the two states; Illinois's population is concentrated on Chicago WAY more than Wisconsin's is on Milwaukee ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 9:03 PM, SFGiants58 said: Norfolk lasted way longer in MLB relocation talks (from about 2003-04) than one would expect. Granted, they were the backup plan should DC not get its act together in building a stadium, but still! Wasn't it northern Virginia in MLB talks? Like suburban D.C.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 59 minutes ago, the admiral said: No, this is actually a big difference between the two states; Illinois's population is concentrated on Chicago WAY more than Wisconsin's is on Milwaukee Absolutely. The City of Chicago's population accounts for more than 20% of the people residing in the State of Illinois. If you take into account the Chicago Metro Area population, that figure rises to 75%. By comparison, the City of Milwaukee's percentage of Wisconsin's population amounts to 10%. Residents of the Milwaukee Metro Area make up just over a quarter of the state's population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said: Wasn't it northern Virginia in MLB talks? Like suburban D.C.? Northern Virginia was an option as well, like with the Astros back in the 90s, but Norfolk was also a (longshot) possibility for the Expos. https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, McCall said: Northern Virginia was an option as well, like with the Astros back in the 90s, but Norfolk was also a (longshot) possibility for the Expos. Isn't Northern Virginia still an option as a possible home for a new stadium for the Washington Football Team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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