waltere Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 7 hours ago, BBTV said: You're saying with a straight face that Tony Romo > Ben Roethlisburger? Not that this is entirely germane to your point, but Tony Romo doesn't have a string of eminently credible sexual assualt allegations against him, so in some senses the answer is automatically yes. 1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said: sorry sweetie, but I don't suck minor-league d CCSLC Post of the day September 3rd 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, waltere said: Not that this is entirely germane to your point, but Tony Romo doesn't have a string of eminently credible sexual assualt allegations against him, so in some senses the answer is automatically yes. I don't think Tony Romo rides a motorcycle like an idiot (Ben's lucky his crashes weren't too bad) or walks out on bar tabs (when he could buy several rounds for the entire establishment without breaking a sweat), either. MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Wait, I thought this was a Top 5 QB comparison in talent not morality or intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinFromBoston Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, BBTV said: Exactly! To win a ring, one has to demonstrate the skills that usually get one placed in those top 5 discussions. That's like saying "the only thing keeping him out of the top 5 was that he was 6. Let's pretend he was 5 instead of 6 and he's top 5 for sure." If he had a ring then we're probably not having this discussion because he probably willed his team to big victories on big stages. I get that having a ring isn't the ultimate measure, but it is important. I don't care how great someone is if they wilt when the cameras are at their brightest. We know who didn't wilt. We don't know if Romo would have wilted or not, but we know that the other guys didn't. That matters. I mean, look at Dan Marino. He never won a ring, yet is still considered one of the top QBs of his era. Give him a ring, is the debate around him really that much different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, AustinFromBoston said: I mean, look at Dan Marino. He never won a ring, yet is still considered one of the top QBs of his era. Give him a ring, is the debate around him really that much different? But romo isn’t one of the best of his era. Atleast Marino made it to a Super Bowl. Atleast Marino set every important QB stat by the time he retired. Romo has nothing that you can point to and say he was one of the best of his era other than having a good QBR, but that then gets neglected because that stat doesn’t consider all of the games he threw away. People say he didn’t have a good defense, but neither did brees and he made romo look like a chump compared to him. For much of his career Manning didn’t have a stellar defense but he still got his teams to AFC Championships. Romo for most of his career led 8-8 teams much of the time due to his own mistakes and when he did make the playoffs his mistakes only amplified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltere Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Comet said: Wait, I thought this was a Top 5 QB comparison in talent not morality or intelligence. When it comes to answering the question of who I want QBing my team, these things do factor in. It's nice not to have the slighty embarrassing feeling of knowing you're rooting/rooted for a garbage human being. 1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said: sorry sweetie, but I don't suck minor-league d CCSLC Post of the day September 3rd 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, GDAWG said: Cowboys fans who have bashed Romo tend to forget how much better he was than the also-rans that started at QB for the Dallas Cowboys from 2000 (following the retirement of Troy Aikman) to mid 2006 (when Romo took over). Quincy Carter, Vinnie Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe! Oh my! I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Don't forget about Chad Hutchinson and Drew Henson... ...Also, still looking for exactly what it was that Tony Romo was supposedly top-5 in... *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Matt Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 On 3/10/2021 at 10:56 AM, tBBP said: Don't forget about Chad Hutchinson and Drew Henson... ...Also, still looking for exactly what it was that Tony Romo was supposedly top-5 in... For starters, among QB's who played from 2006 to 2015 and started at least 100 games, Romo was ranked: 5th in passer rating 3rd in completion % 4th in TD% 2nd in Y/A (yards per attempt) 3rd in AY/A (adjusted yards per attempt) 5th in ANY/A (adjusted net yards per attempt) 3rd in Y/C (yards per completion) tied for 1st in 4th quarter comebacks tied for 2nd in game-winning drives. The only two players that are consistently better than the Romo in most of those stats are Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Literally the two of the three greatest QB's to ever play IMO. He wasn't quite as good as the consensus HoF QB's who played in that era (Rodgers, Brady, Brees and Peyton), but he was better than the others (Rivers, Eli, Roethlisberger and etc.). Far better than people realize. If the Cowboys ever put a top 5 roster around Romo, they would have won at least one Super Bowl and Romo gets in the HoF easily. His defense was never higher than 7th and had only one year were they top 5 in anything (2009, 2nd in PPG). EDIT: And if you're wondering about total stats, he was 7th in yards, 7th in TDs, 13th in INT's, 8th in completions and 10th in attempts. Cowboys - Lakers - LAFC - USMNT - LA Rams - LA Kings - NUFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 As of rumors last night, it is speculated that the Bears are going to make a heavy push for Russell Wilson very soon. Which in reality, it’s just that. Rumors. There’s zero evidence to dictate that the trade is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, DNAsports said: As of rumors last night, it is speculated that the Bears are going to make a heavy push for Russell Wilson very soon. Which in reality, it’s just that. Rumors. There’s zero evidence to dictate that the trade is happening. If the Bears want Wilson that badly, then they better be prepared to part with something very dear to them - Khail Mack. That's right. Wilson for Mack and their first rounder this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 And in a stunning bigbrain move, the Chiefs cut their two best offensive lineman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 That's what happens when you pay a man half a billion dollars... *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, tBBP said: That's what happens when you pay a man half a billion dollars... That's what happens when they're injury prone and you need to make space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Exactly. Cap casualties. It's one of the unfortunate side effects of doing business in the NFL. Of course, having half a billion dollars tied up into one player is sure to squeeze that cap even tighter... ...That said, I sure hope KC has a good succession plan in place, because that Super Bowl showing did not bode well for what could happen if their half a billion dollar man ain't got some good O-line play in front of him... *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, tBBP said: Exactly. Cap casualties. It's one of the unfortunate side effects of doing business in the NFL. Of course, having half a billion dollars tied up into one player is sure to squeeze that cap even tighter... ...That said, I sure hope KC has a good succession plan in place, because that Super Bowl showing did not bode well for what could happen if their half a billion dollar man ain't got some good O-line play in front of him... They're probably one of the teams looking at getting Orlando Brown, who's looking at getting traded from the Ravens. There's also the possibility they re-sign for less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Red Comet said: And in a stunning bigbrain move, the Chiefs cut their two best offensive lineman Schwartz's back injury is so bad a lot of people think he might end up retiring and Fisher blew his achilles, the odds that either would be a factor next year were pretty low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I get why they’re doing, I understand why they’re doing it, I still do not like it, no sir. Brett Veach better have at least two replacements in mind or this is about to get even uglier than SBLV. As for Mahomes’s contract? Yeah, you pay a talent like that half a billion dollars. And that still feels like he’s getting shortchanged. I just hope he’s not just a more robust Russel Wilson. EDIT: And what do you know, they’re restructuring Mahomes’s contract. Looks like they’re preparing to get the best O-Line money can buy. I hope. At least get some depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 So the NFL has said that team executives will conduct the draft from their team facilities again for this year. it means no more Belichick Dog, whatever was going on in the Vrabel Household or Jerry doing the draft from his yacht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinFromBoston Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Good move for The Patriots. Cam's a decent mentor/placeholder QB until they can get someone younger. Probably in the draft. As for The Bucs, Brady legit going to be tearing up the league until he's 50 years old LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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