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NFL Offseason 2021: Ride the QB Carousel of Horror


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I guess even comparing the situation to Seattle made Russell Wilson decide against going to Graveyard of Quarterbacks.
 

Is there anyone in Chicago who would be willing to buy the team assuming Virginia’s death leads to her kids selling shares of the team? Lord knows those people deserve a franchise that isn’t run by the degenerated scions of a great king.

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26 minutes ago, Red Comet said:

I guess even comparing the situation to Seattle made Russell Wilson decide against going to Graveyard of Quarterbacks.
 

Is there anyone in Chicago who would be willing to buy the team assuming Virginia’s death leads to her kids selling shares of the team? Lord knows those people deserve a franchise that isn’t run by the degenerated scions of a great king.

No they don't 🙂

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36 minutes ago, Red Comet said:

Lord knows those people deserve a franchise that isn’t run by the degenerated scions of a great king.


Well, what kind of degeneration are we talking about? Inbreeding, syphilis, PTSD from all the BS in royal life (the Tudors), or some other degeneration illness?

 

If it’s inbreeding, we have aways to go before the Habsburg level.

 

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11 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:


Well, what kind of degeneration are we talking about? Inbreeding, syphilis, PTSD from all the BS in royal life (the Tudors), or some other degeneration illness?

 

If it’s inbreeding, we have aways to go before the Habsburg level.

 

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It's more that even if the McClaskey's injected steroids between their toes like some end-stage junkie, they still wouldn't be able to come close to filling George Halas's shoes. So, they don't even bother trying. 

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2 hours ago, Sec19Row53 said:

Remember who won the free agents championship last year?

 

Me neither, but I think it was the Jets. This may help, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Historically, it hasn't.

Probably the Bucs tbh, worked well for them

 

Obviously an outlier - getting the GOAT QB, the GOAT TE, and a handful of other high level players for non-crippling price-tags aren't exactly annual occurrences.  The Fins seem to win the offseason every couple years and look how that has worked for them.

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10 minutes ago, Lana_del_Bae said:

Probably the Bucs tbh, worked well for them

 

Obviously an outlier - getting the GOAT QB, the GOAT TE, and a handful of other high level players for non-crippling price-tags aren't exactly annual occurrences.  The Fins seem to win the offseason every couple years and look how that has worked for them.

 

Whoa, whoa, whoa--hold the phone there, hoss.

 

Tom Brady I'll give you. But Gronkowski? Dude was very good, great at times even, but not close to GOAT status. Let's not kid ourselves. 

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Seriously, if Tony Gonzalez didn’t play for two of the most cursed franchises when it comes to playoff success (pre-2018 anyway), there would be no question who the best TE of all time would be.

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2 minutes ago, Red Comet said:

Seriously, if Tony Gonzalez didn’t play for two of the most cursed franchises when it comes to playoff success (pre-2018 anyway), there would be no question who the best TE of all time would be.

 

I think the fact that he shined as bright as he did while playing for two of the most cursed franchises (well one of them isn't anymore) only serves to bolster Tony Gonzalez's case. For a long time it was a toss-up between him and Antonio Gates as to who was the league's best TE.

 

(Just don't tell that to Uncle Shay-Shay... 😄)

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I'd still take Gronk any day of the week. Though obviously I'm biased

Apparently Buffalo tried to make a run a Gronk (since it's his hometown) but he chose to stay with Brady. 

 

 

Speaking of Buffalo

Sanders & Diggs is a scary combo. Now imagine if Gronk did choose to sign with them. That's a Super Bowl team. 

 

 

As far as "winning" the offseason, it just kind of proves why you not only need a competent GM, but a coach as well. You can get all the best players on the market, but you'll fail if you can't utilize them properly. That's why teams like The Patriots, Steelers, Bucs & have been sucessful, while Bears, Washington, Bengals, Jets Chargers always fail. The Bills seemed to have finally learned that lesson. 

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2 hours ago, AustinFromBoston said:

I'd still take Gronk any day of the week. Though obviously I'm biased

Apparently Buffalo tried to make a run a Gronk (since it's his hometown) but he chose to stay with Brady. 

 

 

Speaking of Buffalo

Sanders & Diggs is a scary combo. Now imagine if Gronk did choose to sign with them. That's a Super Bowl team. 

 

 

As far as "winning" the offseason, it just kind of proves why you not only need a competent GM, but a coach as well. You can get all the best players on the market, but you'll fail if you can't utilize them properly. That's why teams like The Patriots, Steelers, Bucs & have been sucessful, while Bears, Washington, Bengals, Jets Chargers always fail. The Bills seemed to have finally learned that lesson. 

The bucs haven’t been successful in free agency, they just finally got a quarterback who didn’t throw as many picks as touchdowns, and had him recruit all of his friends to come with him.

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8 minutes ago, dont care said:

It’s not like Andy dalton couldn’t just be a serviceable backup, or even cut if they would rather have foles than him.

Yeah, but the point is they went from believing they could get Wilson, to settling for Andy Dalton. 

That's like believing you could get a new PS5, only to ended with a used N64. 

 

Just now, dont care said:

The bucs haven’t been successful in free agency, they just finally got a quarterback who didn’t throw as many picks as touchdowns, and had him recruit all of his friends to come with him.

Brady didn't get them Lavonte David, Vita Vea, Shaquile Barrett, Chris Godwin, JPP, Ndamukong Suh, or Mike Evens. 

They drafted or made deals to get them. But they also realized they needed a player like Brady & a coach like Arians who could properly utilize those pieces. 

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43 minutes ago, AustinFromBoston said:

Brady didn't get them Lavonte David, Vita Vea, Shaquile Barrett, Chris Godwin, JPP, Ndamukong Suh, or Mike Evens. 

They drafted or made deals to get them. But they also realized they needed a player like Brady & a coach like Arians who could properly utilize those pieces. 

 

It's funny because everybody wanted Licht run out of town before Brady. They didn't even announce his contract extension -- which was part of the deal of getting Arians since they're friends -- because they knew people would be pissed. 

 

Sucks for him for Brady to get all of the credit when I think if they brought in any QB that just didn't turn the ball over like Jameis, they would've been a contender. 

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11 hours ago, the admiral said:

 

For my "Bears are the Bengals" case, here's Exhibit B, B as in "bad"

 

Andy Dalton is the Bearsiest quarterback possible. It's worse than it appears when you think about it a little more. 

 

 

Andy Dalton is no longer an effective quarterback, he has serious limitations, and he needs a really good team around him to succeed, but he's already better than Foles and Trubisky and has more career wins than Jay Cutler. When he throws a pass for the Bears you could make a compelling argument that he's the best Bears quarterback ever. The Bears are the NFC Bengals. 

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