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13 minutes ago, DEAD! said:

 

I think the NHL should consider a 3-2-1-0 point system like the IIHF tournaments. I would even go as far as skipping the OT and go straight to the shootout.

Getting rid of overtime hockey would be awful. Hockey is already an exciting game, the three-on-three sudden death is incredible, especially in the playoffs.

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2 hours ago, BBTV said:

 

I actually really like the college OT rule, and think that a tweaked version would work well in the NFL.

 

Imagine taking a date to a movie and not having any idea when it would end.  Movie (let's say Star Wars) starts at 7, and you figure you'll be home banging your date before 10.  Instead, from 9 till 1AM, you're bored to death watching Luke and Darth Vader sitting there having coffee while discussing politics, until all of a sudden the Death Star blows up at 2AM, and you are so tired by that point that you crash your car driving home and kill both of you.  Is that what you want out of sports?  An event that kills its viewers?  That's basically what you're all saying.

 

 

If it’s becoming too long for you than either turn the game off or leave. 
Don’t butcher the sport because some fans are just impatient. 

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4 minutes ago, QCS said:

Getting rid of overtime hockey would be awful. Hockey is already an exciting game, the three-on-three sudden death is incredible, especially in the playoffs.

Just to clarify: Playoffs is 5-on-5 and I'm only talking about regular season.

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So, the Giants blew a 5-0 lead in the 7th and lost on a walkoff bases loaded walk on Opening Day. 

 

There is absolutely zero reason to waste any time watching them this year. I fully expect them to be even worse than the Rockies. 

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Speaking as someone whose former passion for following Major League Baseball was completely extinguished by a previous change (namely, interleague play), I can say that this phantom runner would probably have driven me away, as well.

 

And I hereby deem completely out of order any snide references to supposed "purism". I love the DH, though I do not like its use in the National League, because there is a definite value in having both versions.

 

Having grown up as a Yankee fan, I scoff at the dishonest argument that the DH eliminates strategy. In actual fact, the DH promotes strategy by allowing teams to pinch-hit for other players, as the Yankees used to do regularly for Bucky Dent (a fact which contributes to the context behind  Dent's shocking home run against the Red Sox in the 1978 one-game A.L. East playoff). 

 

The DH also makes it easier for teams to pinch-run, to platoon, and to use defensive replacements, all of which practices were extensively employed by Earl Weaver.

 

So, in the end, the DH introduces more opportunities for strategy than it removes by eliminating the need to decide whether to pinch-hit for the pitcher. 

 

Of course, the DH can make managers lazy, as we saw most dramatically when Yankee manager Bob Lemon, a great pitcher himself, inexplicably chose to pinch-hit for Tommy John in the fourth inning of game 6 of the 1981 World Series, or when Royals manager Jim Frey failed to keep a player on the bench during that same season's All-Star Game, and so had to let a pitcher bat late in the game. More recently, there was the incident a couple of years ago in which Red Sox manager Joey Cora became befuddled by the opponents' act of switching a pitcher to a defensive position (and thereby losing the DH for the rest of the game), even though the rule on this is perfectly clear, and the opposing team, Tampa Bay, had followed that rule.

 

By contrast, a rule change that I abhor is the automatic intentional walk. In the first World Series that I ever saw, in 1972, Rollie Fingers struck out Johnny Bench on a fake intentional walk.  Since then there have been instances during intentional walks in which hitters have swung for base hits, and in which pitchers have thrown wild pitches or have picked runners off. That such events do not happen often is irrelevant; the threat of any one of these things had been present in every intentional walk, creating tension.

 

Also objectionable are any rules which remove a manager's ability to deploy his players as he sees fit. For this reason the rule requiring a relief pitcher to face three hitters is unacceptable, as is the rule in place in AA this season banning the shift. (However, I will note that I like the AAA rule introducing larger bases, and also the A-ball rule requiring a pitcher to disengage from the rubber in order to make a pickoff throw to any base.)

 

The phantom extra-inning runner may be the most absurd change to game play of them all. That a team could score a run merely on two sacrifice flies (or, if the runner is fast enough and the ball is hit deep enough, on one sacrifice fly) should offend every fan. So a pitcher can throw a perfect game, yet still give up a run. Also, a leadoff hitter can line into a double play, and so there could be an inning with only two batters. Anyone who defends this travesty is making a huge mistake; and anyone who denies that it alters the fundamental nature of the game is just not being honest.

 

My unpopular opinion, coming from having watched soccer for the past 15 years, is that I have learnt that a draw is a legitimate result. So I would be in favour of there being no extra innings during the regular season, and having a game that is tied after nine innings go into the books as a draw. Or, as @OnWis97 suggested, maybe have a draw after 12 innings (as I believe is done in Japan).

 

But a hard "no" to the phantom runner.

 

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3 hours ago, BBTV said:

 

I actually really like the college OT rule, and think that a tweaked version would work well in the NFL.

 

Imagine taking a date to a movie and not having any idea when it would end.  Movie (let's say Star Wars) starts at 7, and you figure you'll be home banging your date before 10.  Instead, from 9 till 1AM, you're bored to death watching Luke and Darth Vader sitting there having coffee while discussing politics, until all of a sudden the Death Star blows up at 2AM, and you are so tired by that point that you crash your car driving home and kill both of you.  Is that what you want out of sports?  An event that kills its viewers?  That's basically what you're all saying.

 

 

 

First off, we both know that a sizeable portion of this community would not only love watching Luke and Darth Vader have coffee and talk politics for four hours, the first thing they'd do after watching it would be to head straight to these here boards to talk about it. Which brings me to my second point. Like anyone here is going to be "banging" after taking a date to Star Wars. They'd be lucky to give the date a ride home after that. Assuming, of course, that they somehow managed to get a date in the first place. Finally, an event that kills its viewers just might make soccer interesting enough to watch. But I seriously doubt it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, AustinFromBoston said:

If it’s becoming too long for you than either turn the game off or leave. 
Don’t butcher the sport because some fans are just impatient. 

 

I used to be a young idealist too.  I used to get all up in arms about the DH, hated interleague play, hated the Cleveland NFL deal, etc.

 

Now that I'm older and have more things going on in life, I've come to just realize that sports really aren't that important.  Professional sports is no different than any other play that you go see or TV show that you watch.  It's just a part of life.  A part of an evening.  It's not life, and it shouldn't be the whole evening.

 

The runner on second doesn't deviate from the basic strategy of the game, adds a lot of drama, and means I can go home at a good time.  I love it - and I initially thought I'd hate it.  If you don't - that's fine.  But let's keep it real here - baseball is boring to a lot of people, and needs to change if it wants to keep people engaged.  This seemingly minor change checks lots of boxes for me.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

Speaking as someone whose former passion for following Major League Baseball was completely extinguished by a previous change (namely, interleague play),

 

Interleague play is awesome. I didn't bother reading the rest of your manifesto. Sorry.

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3 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

Finally, an event that kills its viewers just might make soccer interesting enough to watch. But I seriously doubt it.

 

Do soccer balls ever go into the crowd like foul balls do in baseball?  I propose a change to the sport where when the ball goes into the crowd, blades or spikes would come out of it all around so that it becomes almost like a bomb that you have to dodge.  I would laugh so hard if someone ended up with a spiked ball to the head because they were stuffing their face with a hotdog instead of paying attention.  

 

65,000 fans enter... 64,997 leave.  I love it.

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Just now, BBTV said:

 

Do soccer balls ever go into the crowd like foul balls do in baseball?  I propose a change to the sport where when the ball goes into the crowd, blades or spikes would come out of it all around so that it becomes almost like a bomb that you have to dodge.  I would laugh so hard if someone ended up with a spiked ball to the head because they were stuffing their face with a hotdog instead of paying attention.  

 

65,000 fans enter... 64,997 leave.  I love it.

 

I would watch the :censored: out of soccer if it added that.

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Like this.  It's just a normal soccer ball, but when it leaves the field of play, the spikes pop out of it.

 

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1 minute ago, infrared41 said:
31 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

Speaking as someone whose former passion for following Major League Baseball was completely extinguished by a previous change (namely, interleague play),

 

Interleague play is awesome. I didn't bother reading the rest of your manifesto. Sorry.

 

If you consider introducing further scheduling imbalances, distorting the record books, diminishing the value of the World Series, and generally spitting in the eye of history to be awesome, then you are perfectly entitled to enjoy interleague play.

 

For me, that change had the effect of converting me from an ardent follower of everyday results to a purely historical fan; and it is from this historical standpoint that I am interested in considering all subsequent rule changes. (Though of course I do keep up with the uniforms.)

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1 minute ago, BBTV said:

Like this.  It's just a normal soccer ball, but when it leaves the field of play, the spikes pop out of it.

 

black-matted-sphere-thorns-isolated-260n

 

 

 

Perfect. Who do we call to get this done?

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23 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

I would watch the :censored: out of soccer if it added that.

In person?

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33 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

If you consider introducing further scheduling imbalances, distorting the record books, diminishing the value of the World Series, and generally spitting in the eye of history to be awesome, then you are perfectly entitled to enjoy interleague play.

 

For me, that change had the effect of converting me from an ardent follower of everyday results to a purely historical fan; and it is from this historical standpoint that I am interested in considering all subsequent rule changes. (Though of course I do keep up with the uniforms.)

 

"Spitting in the eye of history." Please. We're talking about a history that didn't allow black players until 1947. Hell, the Red Sox didn't sign Pumpsie Green until 1959. How many potential black HOFers never even got a shot at playing Major League Baseball? There were no playoffs before 1969. Before 1972, all pitchers had to bat. The Wildcard was added in 1994. The mound has been lowered, the spitter was banned, the dead ball was changed, relief pitching, free agency, expansion, advanced analytics, I could go on and on. Do you really believe that without interleague play, the game we're watching today is the same game from whatever point in history it is that you're currently stuck in? C'mon. The game has been changing since the Cincinnati Reds first took the field in 18-whatever.

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1 minute ago, OnWis97 said:

In person?

 

Depends on where I'd have to sit.

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1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

By contrast, a rule change that I abhor is the automatic intentional walk. In the first World Series that I ever saw, in 1972, Rollie Fingers struck out Johnny Bench on a fake intentional walk.  Since then there have been instances during intentional walks in which hitters have swung for base hits, and in which pitchers have thrown wild pitches or have picked runners off. That such events do not happen often is irrelevant; the threat of any one of these things had been present in every intentional walk, creating tension.

 

I agree on the automatic intentional walk. No matter how much one loves baseball, 162 games is a lot of games. To me, the intentional walk was always an opportunity for something truly bizarre and memorable to happen. Did it happen a lot? No. In fact, I don't recall seeing it happen. But the possibility lingered. Now, I would totally give that up if the change would provide a meaningful amount of time savings. But given how often intentional walks happen, I tend to doubt the average game is even a minute shorter because of the rule.

 

However, that same reason is part of why I am anti-DH. Bartolo Colon's home run. I still remember like 15 years ago the Twins were playing the Marlins the the cavernous football stadium and Johan Santana hit a triple. It was awesome. I don't even remember who won the game. Sure, the DH may have even hit a homer in his place, but we see that all the time. 

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39 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

Interleague play is awesome. I didn't bother reading the rest of your manifesto. Sorry.

 

I love interleague play and see it as correcting baseball's biggest wrong. Think about the hundreds of baseball greats who played during the exact same era as other baseball greats, but never against each other because they happened to be in opposite leagues. What a dumb system. Were it not for nostalgia and eschewing common sense in the name of tradition nobody would ever defend something so silly.  

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2 hours ago, DEAD! said:

 

I think the NHL should consider a 3-2-1-0 point system like the IIHF tournaments. I would even go as far as skipping the OT and go straight to the shootout. 

 

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Just now, Sport said:

 

I love interleague play and see it as correcting baseball's biggest wrong. Think about the hundreds of baseball greats who played during the exact same era as other baseball greats, but never against each other because they happened to be in opposite leagues. What a dumb system. Were it not for nostalgia and eschewing common sense in the name of tradition nobody would ever defend something so silly.  

 

Exactly. And I'll add this. When I was a kid, hell until the Braves popped up on TBS in the 80's when I was in my early 20's, the NL may as well have been playing on Mars. We got the occasional glimpse of NL players in the ASG or on NBC's Game of the Week, but other than that, players like Hank Aaron, Willie Stargell, Roberto Clemente, Johnny Bench, etc., were just pictures on baseball cards or in SI and Baseball Digest. I'm probably more on the "traditionalist" side with baseball, but no one was more excited about interleague play than I was. You're right, it was finally correcting a "wrong" I'd grown up with.

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