Skycast Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 The only one I really don't care for is the Mad Dogs one...never liked that honestly. The others are all solid and would fit in St. Louis for sure with the Surge being my 3rd pick for the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 For me, it's down to the Knights and Monarchs. The Surge and Mad Dogs names don't really fit the St. Louis area. 1 Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 Hey everyone, Here is the reveal of the St. Louis Knights. Won't say how the Knights come to be, but those following the alt history league can probably see the writing on the wall. For the initial look I altered very little from the source material (not USFL but WLAF). As teams develop over time the designs will become more distinct from their original "real world" inspirations. The other 2 teams which will get new looks in 1992 are the Michigan Panthers and Houston Gamblers. What (if any) changes would you envision for a 1992 version of the Gamblers or Panthers? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 @WideRight I would switch the star on the eye to white and the streak to gold. Also, I would change the numbers on the home jersey to white and see if there can be white stripes on the pants. I don't think the Gamblers should stray too far from their original look, except for maybe putting the logo on the sleeves as cap sleeves become more standard later on. For the Panthers, maybe a more 90's logo while retaining the color scheme. With the Michigan Panthers still around, what could be the nickname for Charlotte's NFL franchise in 1995? Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, neo_prankster said: @WideRight For the Panthers, maybe a more 90's logo while retaining the color scheme. With the Michigan Panthers still around, what could be the nickname for Charlotte's NFL franchise in 1995? That is a good question. Of course the presence of the USFL and relative success of different markets may cause the NFL to expand differently. Maybe it is not Carolina and Jacksonville, maybe it is Baltimore and Memphis or St. Louis and Carolina. More to come on that a little later on. As for the colors on St. Louis, in part I am trying to stick to a 1990's aesthetic, and that is not always what I would prefer. The gold numbers came from the St. Louis Stallions prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 10 hours ago, WideRight said: Hey everyone, Here is the reveal of the St. Louis Knights. Won't say how the Knights come to be, but those following the alt history league can probably see the writing on the wall. For the initial look I altered very little from the source material (not USFL but WLAF). As teams develop over time the designs will become more distinct from their original "real world" inspirations. The other 2 teams which will get new looks in 1992 are the Michigan Panthers and Houston Gamblers. What (if any) changes would you envision for a 1992 version of the Gamblers or Panthers? Good look honestly, this is the best choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qckgnc Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 I'm thinking that the Panthers may update to the logo used by the Carolina Panthers, switch the black for wine and the silver for champagne and you could lift the entire identity as an update for Michigan. The entire branding screams 90s and the uniforms need to be updated IRL. Also pretty sure I know who is about to move to STL. I have no idea on the Gamblers update. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomba Tomba Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 On 6/19/2021 at 2:24 AM, neo_prankster said: With the Michigan Panthers still around, what could be the nickname for Charlotte's NFL franchise in 1995? Racers? 1 Quote If you read on the card you'll be cheating on your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Star Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 On 6/18/2021 at 10:48 AM, WideRight said: Hey everyone, Here is the reveal of the St. Louis Knights. Won't say how the Knights come to be, but those following the alt history league can probably see the writing on the wall. For the initial look I altered very little from the source material (not USFL but WLAF). As teams develop over time the designs will become more distinct from their original "real world" inspirations. The other 2 teams which will get new looks in 1992 are the Michigan Panthers and Houston Gamblers. What (if any) changes would you envision for a 1992 version of the Gamblers or Panthers? Silver and gold together? WOW! Don't know. I would of did gold, violet, but since they are the knights, silver, violet, and red would of worked too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest darkpiranha Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Silver_Star said: Silver and gold together? WOW! Don't know. I would of did gold, violet, but since they are the knights, silver, violet, and red would of worked too. I love this take on the Knights, especially the colors. But I wonder if there's a way to sneak in some kind of subtle Arch in there? Maybe the mane can be mini-arches instead of squares? Instead of a sharp point above the star-eye, maybe that can be an arch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 And here we go with the first of 2 redesigns by Russell Athletic in their last year with the USFL. The league (in the simulation alt history) just signed a leaguewide contract with Nike, so starting with the 1993 season all uniforms will be Nike, and that means some major changes to some teams beginning in 1993. But, for the last year of the Rusell Athletic contract there are two teams getting modest remakes, Houston and Pittsburgh (Michigan deferred until 1993 to get on board with Nike). Today we present the new look for the Houston Gamblers. Nothing radical but a few worthwhile changes. Creation of a secondary logo which can be seen on the chest and as a sticker on the helmet. Removal of grey as a team color, which means no more grey pants. There is now a black and a white set. Placement of the "Gamblers" wordmark on the chest. Options now for an all-white look or an all-black look, though in most weeks it will be black jersey with white pants and vice versa on the road. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I feel like the new Texas logo should more closely reflect the primary. Otherwise they feel mismatched. Sad about losing gray, but time marches on. Has a real Oklahoma Outlaws vibe now! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 OK, last of the 1992 updates, Pittsburgh Maulers. I toyed with switching them to a metal grey helmet, but never got a look I liked. So, the 1992 update is pretty basic. Changes include: 1. Introduction of purple pants. 2. Shift of helmet stripes from orange bracketing white to white bracketing orange. 3. Matched the purple jersey sleeve stripes to the pattern seen on the white jersey, two thicker stripes outlined in a thinner stripe. 4. Placed the main logo in the striping pattern on the jersey stripes. 5. "Maulers" wordmark on front of jersey. 6. Simplified socks to just purple blocks. 1993 brings in the era of Nike as league uniform provider, with Michigan the first of many significant reimaginings. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Have you thought of orange socks for the Maulers' purple pants? Or, you could still have the purple socks with the purple pants, except with stripes. Similar to how the Saints had the black pants and socks in the late 70's. Quote The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I'm guessing from your site that the St. Louis team will be dark purple now instead of navy. Looks good! Will you be posting that update? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 The Knights have been revealed for 1992, so now it is on to the 1993 and 1994 updates by Nike. Looking at these teams, which do you think is most likely to get a "1996 Broncos" style update? Michigan Panthers Tampa Bay Bandits Philadelphia Stars New Jersey Generals One of them will be the first of the "New Nike" look. All will be updated soon, but some will have a more traditional look than others. Still only mid 1990's, so no total craziness, but when we think about how different the 96 Broncos were compared to all other NFL teams, it was a big shift. Which USFL team makes that shift with Nike? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcomet Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 hours ago, WideRight said: The Knights have been revealed for 1992, so now it is on to the 1993 and 1994 updates by Nike. Looking at these teams, which do you think is most likely to get a "1996 Broncos" style update? Michigan Panthers Tampa Bay Bandits Philadelphia Stars New Jersey Generals One of them will be the first of the "New Nike" look. All will be updated soon, but some will have a more traditional look than others. Still only mid 1990's, so no total craziness, but when we think about how different the 96 Broncos were compared to all other NFL teams, it was a big shift. Which USFL team makes that shift with Nike? I feel like either the Panthers or the Bandits would do best with that kind of update myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qckgnc Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I'm going with Tampa because part of the lore behind the Broncos rebrand was that they never won a SB in their better looking orange crush uniforms so a change was needed. That fits Tampa in-universe better than any of the other teams provided (imho). A darker red and silver would make for a nice combo on a modern palette and would make the difference between them and Memphis even more noticeable, keeping black to a minimum on the uniform to keep them and Houston from looking alike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogoFan Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 6/18/2021 at 11:48 AM, WideRight said: Hey everyone, Here is the reveal of the St. Louis Knights. Won't say how the Knights come to be, but those following the alt history league can probably see the writing on the wall. For the initial look I altered very little from the source material (not USFL but WLAF). As teams develop over time the designs will become more distinct from their original "real world" inspirations. The other 2 teams which will get new looks in 1992 are the Michigan Panthers and Houston Gamblers. What (if any) changes would you envision for a 1992 version of the Gamblers or Panthers? I don't like them, I LOVE them. Bravo! What a sharp, distinctive color palette! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogoFan Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 1:42 PM, neo_prankster said: For me, it's down to the Knights and Monarchs. The Surge and Mad Dogs names don't really fit the St. Louis area. I can understand Surge and MadDogs. Surge due to one of the most powerful earthquakes in US history happening in the area (closer to Memphis, but still...) and the Mad Dogs were a slap at the NFL for Memphis not awarding the Hound Dogs to them, but that reference is really dated now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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