BrySmalls Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Sport said: Let's talk about this now - why the :censored: do they not reseed after the wildcard game? Why the :censored: are the Dodgers and Giants playing in the NLDS? Under the old 4 team wildcard format those two teams wouldn't have played in the LDS because they were from the same division, which was silly for its own reasons, but this is even dumber. Just use overall records, you knuckleheads! The Giants-Dodgers matchup is the second time that two 100-Win teams faceoff against each other in the LDS since the Wild Card format expanded in 2012. I don’t recall any uproar over the 108-Win Red Sox versus the 100-Win Yankees (WC) in the 2018 ALDS. Maybe because it was Red Sox-Yankees in the playoffs, which is always TV-worthy? For comparison, the other side of the AL bracket had the 103-Win Astros taking on the 91-Win Indians that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, BryanSmalls said: The Giants-Dodgers matchup is the second time that two 100-Win teams faceoff against each other in the LDS since the Wild Card format expanded in 2012. I don’t recall any uproar over the 108-Win Red Sox versus the 100-Win Yankees (WC) in the 2018 ALDS. Maybe because it was Red Sox-Yankees in the playoffs, which is always TV-worthy? For comparison, the other side of the AL bracket had the 103-Win Astros taking on the 91-Win Indians that season. Okay it's been dumb in every instance it's happened. The Red Sox should've played the Indians in the LDS that year. Just reseed after the wildcard game so the team with the best record plays the team with the fourth best record. Not sure why there's pushback on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Yeah...the idea of rewarding division champions kinda goes out the window when the best division champion is more or less being punished due to an overly-generalized assumption that the WC team is the weakest team remaining. I can live with (though disagree with) punishing a wild card team by putting them against the number 1 seed...but not when that forces the number 1 seed to have to play the second-best team. If Atlanta or Milwaukee wants to go to the World Series, they should have to (at least in theory) go through both of those teams. Re-seeding is the best way to handle this. Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 7 hours ago, Digby said: Do the Red Sox haunt you in your sleep or what? They've spent all year being hopelessly inconsistent against decent teams and will be lucky to win two against Tampa Bay. IDK, anything can happen in the postseason though the Rays may very well trounce Boston. trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 White Sox are getting battered. trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Sport said: Okay it's been dumb in every instance it's happened. The Red Sox should've played the Indians in the LDS that year. Just reseed after the wildcard game so the team with the best record plays the team with the fourth best record. Not sure why there's pushback on that. It makes as much sense as a 7-9 WFT hosting a playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, LMU said: It makes as much sense as a 7-9 WFT hosting a playoff game. In fact, all three teams that finished 7-9/7-8-1 have hosted their first playoff game, because the odds of a 7-win team winning one of the wild cards is so low that it can only really happen with a bad division producing it's obligatory champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorWhom Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I know I'm in the minority, but i prefer this format having the 2 best teams (like San Fran & LA) play each other earlier in the playoffs rather than later It makes the playoffs so much more unpredictable & gives lower ranked teams a better chance. With the reseeding crap if we got Brewers - Dodgers & Giants - Braves instead, I'm so much less invested because it feels like I'm just waiting for Giants - Dodger NLCS to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltere Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 hours ago, BryanSmalls said: I don’t recall any uproar over the 108-Win Red Sox versus the 100-Win Yankees (WC) in the 2018 ALDS. Maybe because it was Red Sox-Yankees in the playoffs, which is always TV-worthy? For comparison, the other side of the AL bracket had the 103-Win Astros taking on the 91-Win Indians that season. 1v3 & 2v4, with an eight game gap between 1st and 3rd, is significantly less ludicrous than 1v2 when 2nd is only a single game back of 1st and a whole eleven games better than the third best team. 1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said: sorry sweetie, but I don't suck minor-league d CCSLC Post of the day September 3rd 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Sport said: Okay it's been dumb in every instance it's happened. The Red Sox should've played the Indians in the LDS that year. Just reseed after the wildcard game so the team with the best record plays the team with the fourth best record. Not sure why there's pushback on that. You're onto something about re-seeding the LDS, especially since the whole point of the WC team is to make the playoffs unpredictable. It would be entertaining to see MLB follow the NFL and NHL in this playoff format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Industries Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, DoctorWhom said: It makes the playoffs so much more unpredictable & gives lower ranked teams a better chance. Why is this a good thing? The lower ranked teams are likely lower ranked for a reason. If they're going to make a deep playoff run, make them earn it. What this does is punish the 107-win Giants in the first round compared to the 95-win Brewers and 88-win Braves, which goes against all common sense. Being a #1 seed is supposed to be better than the #2 or #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorWhom Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kramerica Industries said: Why is this a good thing? The lower ranked teams are likely lower ranked for a reason. If they're going to make a deep playoff run, make them earn it. What this does is punish the 107-win Giants in the first round compared to the 95-win Brewers and 88-win Braves, which goes against all common sense. Being a #1 seed is supposed to be better than the #2 or #3. Either way they're still going to have to defeat a team with a better record than them. So they would still be earning it. Being #1 also still gets you home field, not like it gets you nothing. A Giants- Braves & Brewers - Dodgers LDS would be so boring to more because it feels like I'm just waiting for the Giants - Dodgers LCS to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooky01 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, DoctorWhom said: Either way they're still going to have to defeat a team with a better record than them. So they would still be earning it. Being #1 also still gets you home field, not like it gets you nothing. A Giants- Braves & Brewers - Dodgers LDS would be so boring to more because it feels like I'm just waiting for the Giants - Dodgers LCS to start. I agree. Giants vs Braves and Brewers vs Dodgers in the NLDS just sounds like delaying the inenvtible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 13 hours ago, BryanSmalls said: the whole point of the WC team is to make the playoffs unpredictable. The (original) point of the WC team is to 1) make round out the field at 4 teams (it's not coincidence that it wasn't a thing until realignment) and 2) give a team like the Dodgers, who are elite but just had the bad luck of an eliter team in their own division, a chance, and avoid a situation like 1993. Now, especially with the addition of the 5th team, it serves to keep baseball meaningful for more teams later in the season, which boosts revenue, which is the entire reason pro sports exist to begin with. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 The 10-team playoff format would work a lot better with two divisions in each league, which is the one thing the NHL has actually gotten right. I get that Tom Ricketts is a cheap bastard who probably doesn't want to pay for an extra West Coast swing or two every year, but the Texas teams are already doing it fine, and that would mean a team like the Dodgers both avoid the play-in game and avoid the No. 1 seed until the LCS. Would it still be silly for the Braves to have home field over the Dodgers? Sure — but it's also easier to explain away the unbalanced schedules and the concept of being rewarded for being one of the best 7-8 teams, which is a much more robust number than 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 5 hours ago, BBTV said: The (original) point of the WC team is to 1) make round out the field at 4 teams (it's not coincidence that it wasn't a thing until realignment) and 2) give a team like the Dodgers, who are elite but just had the bad luck of an eliter team in their own division, a chance, and avoid a situation like 1993. Now, especially with the addition of the 5th team, it serves to keep baseball meaningful for more teams later in the season, which boosts revenue, which is the entire reason pro sports exist to begin with. Which is a great reason for playoff expansion. That and to stop making baseball look bad with the continued Tampa Bay Rays disaster. 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 8 hours ago, BBTV said: The (original) point of the WC team is to 1) make round out the field at 4 teams (it's not coincidence that it wasn't a thing until realignment) and 2) give a team like the Dodgers, who are elite but just had the bad luck of an eliter team in their own division, a chance, and avoid a situation like 1993. Now, especially with the addition of the 5th team, it serves to keep baseball meaningful for more teams later in the season, which boosts revenue, which is the entire reason pro sports exist to begin with. It is always about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 And we can stick a fork on the White Sox. trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unocal Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, TrueYankee26 said: And we can stick a fork on the White Sox. Let's wait and see what happens on Sunday. Houston even up 2-0 is not a guarantee- Rays 2 years ago or the Red Sox in 2017. Heck, OAK won a game last year down 0-2. Plus, we've seen Dusty Baker teams blow 2 game playoff series leads before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorWhom Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I'd like to see the Red Sox take at least 1 game from the Rays, so there will be a playoff game on Marathon Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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