TheAnt755 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 POSSIBLE STADIUMS FOR THE USFL TEAMS: Memphis Showboats - Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium Orlando Renegades - Camping World Stadium Jacksonville Bulls - TIAA Bank Field Oakland Invaders - RingCentral Coliseum Arizona Outlaws - Sun Devil Stadium Denver Gold - Folsom Field Los Angeles Express - Dignity Health Sports Park Houston Gamblers - TDECU Stadium New Orleans Breakers - Yulman Stadium Birmingham Stallions - Protective Stadium Tampa Bay Bandits - Raymond James Stadium Michigan Panthers - Ford Field Pittsburgh Maulers - Heinz Field Philadelphia Stars - Lincoln Financial Field New Jersey Generals - Red Bull Arena So yeah that's my options for the USFL teams' stadiums. But I only have 3 things about this league: 1. Some journalist website believes the Stallions will become the "Mobile Stallions", I honestly don't like "Mobile" option, why they can just call them the "Alabama Stallions" if you can't use the "Birmingham" city. 2. I heard the NFL is trying to stop Michigan from using the "Panthers" name, even though Michigan use the "Panthers" name 13 years before Carolina use it. If they can't use the "Panthers" name, called them the "Cougars" or the "Pumas". Plus, I couldn't find OTHER stadiums in Michigan where the Panthers could play, you guys have ideas where the Panthers should play, let me know. 3. The only team that is not on the USFL list is the San Antonio Gunslingers, I guess they couldn't have the rights to the name or unknown reasons? If they still planning to have a team in San Antonio, call them the "Vipers", or the "Stingers", or the "Orcas". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I think Mobile was a backup in case Birmingham didn't happen. It did though, so ... 1 Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 12:58 PM, TheAnt755 said: POSSIBLE STADIUMS FOR THE USFL TEAMS: Memphis Showboats - Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium Orlando Renegades - Camping World Stadium Jacksonville Bulls - TIAA Bank Field Oakland Invaders - RingCentral Coliseum Arizona Outlaws - Sun Devil Stadium Denver Gold - Folsom Field Los Angeles Express - Dignity Health Sports Park Houston Gamblers - TDECU Stadium New Orleans Breakers - Yulman Stadium Birmingham Stallions - Protective Stadium Tampa Bay Bandits - Raymond James Stadium Michigan Panthers - Ford Field Pittsburgh Maulers - Heinz Field Philadelphia Stars - Lincoln Financial Field New Jersey Generals - Red Bull Arena So yeah that's my options for the USFL teams' stadiums. But I only have 3 things about this league: 1. Some journalist website believes the Stallions will become the "Mobile Stallions", I honestly don't like "Mobile" option, why they can just call them the "Alabama Stallions" if you can't use the "Birmingham" city. 2. I heard the NFL is trying to stop Michigan from using the "Panthers" name, even though Michigan use the "Panthers" name 13 years before Carolina use it. If they can't use the "Panthers" name, called them the "Cougars" or the "Pumas". Plus, I couldn't find OTHER stadiums in Michigan where the Panthers could play, you guys have ideas where the Panthers should play, let me know. 3. The only team that is not on the USFL list is the San Antonio Gunslingers, I guess they couldn't have the rights to the name or unknown reasons? If they still planning to have a team in San Antonio, call them the "Vipers", or the "Stingers", or the "Orcas". Ring Central Stadium isn't happening. Have to find somewhere else in the Bay Area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 6:57 PM, Geoff said: I think Mobile was a backup in case Birmingham didn't happen. It did though, so ... Aren't they still considering having all of the teams play in the same area, ala the Spring League? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 5 hours ago, MJWalker45 said: Aren't they still considering having all of the teams play in the same area, ala the Spring League? Apparently for the first year, they are having all teams play in Birmingham. Then in 2023, four teams will play there and finally in 2024, all teams will play in their own cities. This is of course assuming that this even gets through the first season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 That's such a terrible idea. I watched TSL but I didn't care about any team in particular. The location based teams makes it easier for fans to latch on to a team and care about that team. The only way where teams without a location have been successful in American sports is the PLL and that works earlier because it's pretty much the top of the lacrosse world. People have their favorite players and it's more of a player based fandom. No one is a hardcore fan of a D2 wide receiver trying to catch on in the NFL. 1 Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Maybe it’s a bad idea for fan interest but it’s a great idea if you want to keep costs down. IIRC, TSL has been the only alt-league to profit. I think they’re trying to get sponsorships going first before they try to invest. As for my opinion on this particular strategy? Spoiler And I only mean it semi-ironically. They should get credit for going a different route. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnt755 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Welp, a NAL San Antonio expansion team is using the "Gunslingers" name, so looks like they'll have to find a different name for San Antonio (if the USFL can last longer to have an expansion). PROOF: https://xflnewsroom.com/news/nal-announces-san-antonio-gunslingers-as-expansion-franchise/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 10:05 PM, TheAnt755 said: Welp, a NAL San Antonio expansion team is using the "Gunslingers" name, so looks like they'll have to find a different name for San Antonio (if the USFL can last longer to have an expansion). PROOF: https://xflnewsroom.com/news/nal-announces-san-antonio-gunslingers-as-expansion-franchise/ That team played at a horse arena last year so I wonder if they'll be able to get better digs in the NAL. I'd think the NAL would require that. I've played on better turf in pickup indoor soccer leagues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjWYA7o66UM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 7:51 PM, Geoff said: That's such a terrible idea. I watched TSL but I didn't care about any team in particular. The location based teams makes it easier for fans to latch on to a team and care about that team. The only way where teams without a location have been successful in American sports is the PLL and that works earlier because it's pretty much the top of the lacrosse world. People have their favorite players and it's more of a player based fandom. No one is a hardcore fan of a D2 wide receiver trying to catch on in the NFL. I'm not so sure these new USFL team's won't be aligned with other cities, though. Several of the stories out of Birmingham make the point to say that one of the eight teams will be the revival of the Birmingham Stallions. And while it's not clear about the other brands, the USFL's own website is already selling merch for the Pittsburgh Maulers, New Orleans Breakers and Philadelphia Stars. Of course, they own the IP to those brands, so they could just be selling stuff out of nostalgic appeal. But it seems like the whole reason for launching a new league under the USFL brand was to capitalize on the nostalgia that still exists for that league and its teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 10:05 PM, TheAnt755 said: Welp, a NAL San Antonio expansion team is using the "Gunslingers" name, so looks like they'll have to find a different name for San Antonio (if the USFL can last longer to have an expansion). PROOF: https://xflnewsroom.com/news/nal-announces-san-antonio-gunslingers-as-expansion-franchise/ There's also a decent chance they don't make it to kickoff and if they do, they only last a few games. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi74 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 20 hours ago, gosioux76 said: I'm not so sure these new USFL team's won't be aligned with other cities, though. Several of the stories out of Birmingham make the point to say that one of the eight teams will be the revival of the Birmingham Stallions. And while it's not clear about the other brands, the USFL's own website is already selling merch for the Pittsburgh Maulers, New Orleans Breakers and Philadelphia Stars. Of course, they own the IP to those brands, so they could just be selling stuff out of nostalgic appeal. But it seems like the whole reason for launching a new league under the USFL brand was to capitalize on the nostalgia that still exists for that league and its teams. Unless they're going to play at Highmark Stadium, I doubt they'll be a Pittsburgh Maulers. Even though the region is football crazy there's no way minor league football will draw more than a few thousand people to games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Luigi74 said: Unless they're going to play at Highmark Stadium, I doubt they'll be a Pittsburgh Maulers. Even though the region is football crazy there's no way minor league football will draw more than a few thousand people to games. I agree. It makes sense, to a degree, for the USFL to start out this way. It allows them to start the league without having to secure stadium leases in cities across the country and eliminates some huge startup costs. But I also don't know how that works when one of your value propositions involves rekindling brands that are historically tied to specific cities. The stories on this league so far don't really get into how they'll brand these teams or whether they'd be tied to other locales. It would be super weird, though, to launch with a team called the Maulers and then have them end up in, say, St. Louis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Fox Sports just announced some details about the league. LINK. Here's some of the more relevant info: Quote How many teams will be in the league? How will the league be formatted? There will be eight teams in the new USFL, split into two divisions –– North and South. Each team will play a 10-game schedule, with teams in the same division playing each other twice and teams in the other division once. The top two teams in each division will play against each other in the semifinals followed a week later by the championship game. Where will games be played? In the inaugural season of the USFL, all eight teams will play in one location, which will be announced soon. In the future, the USFL expects teams to play in their own markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi74 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, gosioux76 said: I agree. It makes sense, to a degree, for the USFL to start out this way. It allows them to start the league without having to secure stadium leases in cities across the country and eliminates some huge startup costs. But I also don't know how that works when one of your value propositions involves rekindling brands that are historically tied to specific cities. The stories on this league so far don't really get into how they'll brand these teams or whether they'd be tied to other locales. It would be super weird, though, to launch with a team called the Maulers and then have them end up in, say, St. Louis. Outside of the first home game no one went to Maulers games so there's no real history besides the cool painters hats they used to sell. Plus everyone who went to that first game was there to throw snowballs at Cliff Stoudt, not cheer on the Maulers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluggerplugger1 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 The USFL unveiled their initial eight teams this morning, all legacy brands. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Interesting that they don't have any teams west of the Rockies. Makes sense if they are lowering costs to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tBBP Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 18 hours ago, GDAWG said: Interesting that they don't have any teams west of the Rockies. Makes sense if they are lowering costs to start. Not only that, but if you look at the geography, all of those northern teams are within 300 miles of each other (with Philly and NJ obviously being a lot closer), and Tampa and Birmingham being the farthest apart (if you were to connect the dots in line) at about 550 miles, the 350 miles between Bham and NO, and about 300 miles from NO to Houston. All of those are plenty reasonable travel distances via bus, and just about all except Birmingham offer point-to-point flights to one another (I don't know if BHM has any direct flights to EWR or not). But then, they're looking at starting this thing off in Birmingham (Birmingham Bubble?) for the first season, so there you go... 1 Quote *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostOfNormMacdonald Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I'm surprised the Generals are back, given the brands connection to a certain former social media influencer that caused the league to go under the first time 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, GhostOfNormMacdonald said: I'm surprised the Generals are back, given the brands connection to a certain former social media influencer that caused the league to go under the first time The Gunslingers would’ve been the better choice to return. At least their comedy of errors was just football stuff! Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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