sky1324 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, the admiral said: "Basketball is truly a global sport! There's never been more talent than there is now!" "Is there enough talent for 32 teams?" "oh jesus christ no are you insane" More talent then ever before and enough talent to support a large league aren't necessarily mutually exclusive things. the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 With the growth of the game and the explosion of talent in the last 25 years, if there aren't three extra teams' worth of players out of all that, something is wrong. It's the same as how drafting 4th overall shouldn't be a death sentence, but it is for some reason. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 "talent pool" != "star pool". "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGlowin Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 An updated supersonics branding could be very interesting. Nothing too crazy just a modern version. Last updated 2/26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigers Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, CaliforniaGlowin said: An updated supersonics branding could be very interesting. Nothing too crazy just a modern version. There are so many options it could be the best. Logano wins BOWL before Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGlowin Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I just looked up their logo history. This one is slick! Last updated 2/26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigers Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/28/2021 at 3:58 PM, CaliforniaGlowin said: I just looked up their logo history. This one is slick! Jetstream J has always annoyed me with that logo and being green like New York Jets just makes it worse. Also why is the wording and the jetstream all the wrong directions to each other? Logano wins BOWL before Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnWis97 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Knowing what the new model for franchise recognition is in the NBA, I do hope it's an expansion team. I don't want to see the long history of the Kings or the sad history of my team (T-Wolves) just stop in favor of defunctness. Assuming the Wolves stay in Minnesota, I'd really love them to go east. I like it so much better when the Wild's division rivals are in their own time zone and the T-Wolves have been plying Milwaukee and Chicago twice per year for too long. And of course, fewer 9:00 PM road games would be nice, too. (Of course I really wish it would have happened a long time ago so a couple of the Kevin Love teams could have snuck into the playoffs). Disclaimer: If this comment is about an NBA uniform from 2017-2018 or later, do not constitute a lack of acknowledgement of the corporate logo to mean anything other than "the corporate logo is terrible and makes the uniform significantly worse." BADGERS TWINS VIKINGS TIMBERWOLVES WILD POTD (Shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I thought the OKC was only going to "gift" the history/records/banners back to Seattle if they got a team within some set number of years from the move, and that's long since passed. Was some other deal cut? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, BBTV said: I thought the OKC was only going to "gift" the history/records/banners back to Seattle if they got a team within some set number of years from the move, and that's long since passed. Was some other deal cut? I'm pretty sure the deal was about payments to the city if they got a team back within 10 years or whatever. The history remains with Seattle no matter the length of time. the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Just now, QCS said: I'm pretty sure the deal was about payments to the city if they got a team back within 10 years or whatever. The history remains with Seattle no matter the length of time. Also, as we learned with the Bobcats/Hornets stuff, histories are tied to name and logo trademarks in the NBA. MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 According to Wikipedia, " According to the conditions of the settlement, the Sonics' name and colors could not be used by the team in Oklahoma City, but could be taken by a future team in Seattle, although no promises for a replacement team were given. The Oklahoma City team would retain the franchise history of the SuperSonics, which could be "shared" with any future NBA team in Seattle." "According to the terms detailed in the settlement agreement, items associated with the SuperSonics' history in Seattle, including trophies, banners, and retired jerseys, stayed in the city and were placed in the Museum of History & Industry (MOHAI)." Shared history? Other than something like a split/de-merger like the North Stars and Sharks (and even then I don't think it's shared) that sounds like a horrible idea. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discogod Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 On 7/1/2021 at 2:22 AM, BBTV said: According to Wikipedia, " According to the conditions of the settlement, the Sonics' name and colors could not be used by the team in Oklahoma City, but could be taken by a future team in Seattle, although no promises for a replacement team were given. The Oklahoma City team would retain the franchise history of the SuperSonics, which could be "shared" with any future NBA team in Seattle." "According to the terms detailed in the settlement agreement, items associated with the SuperSonics' history in Seattle, including trophies, banners, and retired jerseys, stayed in the city and were placed in the Museum of History & Industry (MOHAI)." Shared history? Other than something like a split/de-merger like the North Stars and Sharks (and even then I don't think it's shared) that sounds like a horrible idea. My guess is that the league will treat the new Sonics much the same as they did the Hornets - OKC would be considered an "expansion team" that started in 2008, and the Sonics would officially be "deactivated" from 2008 - whenever they get a new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHawk447 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 At 32 (with Seattle and Las Vegas), the NBA should revert to Atlantic, Central, Midwest, and Pacific, 4x8...and I lean toward the Wolves going to the Central. As far as where they’d actually play...just as Climate Pledge is a major step toward and can accommodate a Sonic return, the T-Mobile does likewise vis-á-vis a Vegas entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHawk447 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 BTW, I’m with Discogod on the likely treatment: Sonics reactivated w/ Thunder as 2008 expansion team. As for a Vegas entry, would they go with a metallic or neon (accent) as far as a color scheme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruhammydude Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Here's my map for 32 teams in the NBA 8 DIVISIONS, 4 TEAMS PER DIVISION: WEST: PHOENIX SUNS PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS SEATTLE SUPER SONICS UTAH JAZZ GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS OR LAS VEGAS VENOM LOS ANGELES LAKERS LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS SACRAMENTO KINGS LOS ANGELES LAKERS DENVER NUGGETS DENVER NUGGETS KANSAS CITY MONARCHS OR KANSAS CITY KINGS (from Sacramento) MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER DALLAS MAVERICKS HOUSTON ROCKETS NEW ORLEANS PELICANS SAN ANTONIO SPURS EAST: CHICAGO BULLS DETROIT PISTONS MILWAUKEE BUCKS MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES CLEVELAND CAVALIERS INDIANA PACERS TORONTO RAPTORS WASHINGTON WIZARDS BOSTON CELTICS BROOKLYN NETS NEW YORK KNICKS PHILADELPHIA 76ERS ATLANTA HAWKS CHARLOTTE HORNETS MIAMI HEAT ORLANDO MAGIC 4 DIVISIONS, 8 TEAMS PER DIVISION: WEST: GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS LOS ANGELES LAKERS PHOENIX SUNS PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS SACRAMENTO KINGS OR LAS VEGAS VENOM SEATTLE SUPER SONICS UTAH JAZZ DALLAS MAVERICKS DENVER NUGGETS HOUSTON ROCKETS KANSAS CITY MONARCHS OR KANSAS CITY KINGS (from Sacramento) MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES NEW ORLEANS PELICANS OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER SAN ANTONIO SPURS EAST: BOSTON CELTICS BROOKLYN NETS CHICAGO BULLS DETROIT PISTONS MILWAUKEE BUCKS MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES NEW YORK KNICKS PHILADELPHIA 76ERS ATLANTA HAWKS CHARLOTTE HORNETS CLEVELAND CAVALIERS INDIANA PACERS MIAMI HEAT ORLANDO MAGIC TORONTO RAPTORS WASHINGTON WIZARDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilSox Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 If this were to happen, I'd hope the NBA would drop the facade with divisions and just go two conferences, single table. There's no way to go to 8 divisions without several of them having a Colts in the AFC South sort of situation where one team has no natural division rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHawk447 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 ATLANTIC = Boston, Brooklyn, Miami, New York, Orlando, Philadelphia, Toronto, Washington. CENTRAL = Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Indiana, Milwaukee, Minnesota. MIDWEST = Dallas, Denver, Houston, Memphis, New Orleans, Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Utah. PACIFIC = Golden State, LAS VEGAS, LA Clippers, LA Lakers, Phoenix, Portland, Sacramento, SEATTLE. (To Bruhammydude) I kind of like the Las Vegas Venom as a team name. [Snake-print side panels? Black, Old Gold, and Cerise colors, maybe?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimball Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 11:45 PM, NicDB said: If this were to happen, I'd hope the NBA would drop the facade with divisions and just go two conferences, single table. There's no way to go to 8 divisions without several of them having a Colts in the AFC South sort of situation where one team has no natural division rivals. Honestly, that's basically what they've done for the past ... what? ... 10 seasons? Division titles don't mean anything anymore. "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." Lily Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilSox Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 8 hours ago, kimball said: Honestly, that's basically what they've done for the past ... what? ... 10 seasons? Division titles don't mean anything anymore. That's precisely my point... why even bother having divisions then? In the NFL and MLB, division rivalries actually mean something and are a factor in determining playoff position. Division titles in the NBA are such a glorified participation trophy that even the NBA website gives you the option to filter them out of the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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