Carolingian Steamroller Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 35 minutes ago, Digby said: All of them, really? Every New Era hat I've bought off eBay has been no different than one I've bought off Fanatics or purchased in a team store. Except for New Era's own sizing inconsistencies, of course. You would be shocked. Always check the seller origin. If it's not US-based with a legit brick and mortar store front, consider it highly suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolingian Steamroller Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 57 minutes ago, GoGreenGoWhite said: Are MLB hats more common to be counterfeited? Because I've bought tons of discounted sports merchandise off ebay and it's all been legit. It's shocking how common it is. You have be really careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGreenGoWhite Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Maybe hats are harder to tell because it's pretty easy to spot fake jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Just now, GoGreenGoWhite said: Maybe hats are harder to tell because it's pretty easy to spot fake jerseys. If the price was too good, it was counterfeit. 2 It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGreenGoWhite Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 45 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said: If the price was too good, it was counterfeit. I'm not buying brand new $20 jerseys and thinking they're real. There are sellers on ebay who get merchandise that's outdated I guess and that's where great deals can be had. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffinM6 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, GoGreenGoWhite said: I'm not buying brand new $20 jerseys and thinking they're real. There are sellers on ebay who get merchandise that's outdated I guess and that's where great deals can be had. Exactly. Retro2Heritage is my go-to seller for those kind of things. They have official merchandise that's usually a year-or-two past date and they sell it for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Sec19Row53 said: If the price was too good, it was counterfeit. What do you think of this listing? https://www.ebay.com/itm/374184697265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: What do you think of this listing? https://www.ebay.com/itm/374184697265 Looks like a poly jersey with the heathered effect - did that even exist back in the day, and if so, did he wear one? 1 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolingian Steamroller Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: What do you think of this listing? https://www.ebay.com/itm/374184697265 Most likely a knock off. The number fabric looks off and its definitely a poly fabric with heathered effected as commented above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 14 hours ago, GoGreenGoWhite said: I'm not buying brand new $20 jerseys and thinking they're real. There are sellers on ebay who get merchandise that's outdated I guess and that's where great deals can be had. Right, the usual mix of deadstock plus regretted purchases and unwanted gifts from civilians... I've never found it difficult to find genuine product on eBay or Poshmark. Also easy to find the knockoffs, sure. Fan Style ShirtsShowcasing fan-made sports apparel by artists and designers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousAtticus Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 15 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: What do you think of this listing? https://www.ebay.com/itm/374184697265 I would do your research on that Mays jersey. That same seller has a Babe Ruth home Yankees jersey with the "Baseball Centennial" patch. That patch was on uniforms in 1939 to commemorate 100 years of the game. Ruth's last season with the Yanks was 1934. Plus the number font and front logo don't align with each other and were never a uniform option during his playing days in the Bronx. So, I would def be cautious and do your research on any jersey that person is selling. Some details can be overlooked and some are glaring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, FamousAtticus said: 15 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: What do you think of this listing? https://www.ebay.com/itm/374184697265 I would do your research on that Mays jersey. That same seller has a Babe Ruth home Yankees jersey with the "Baseball Centennial" patch. That patch was on uniforms in 1939 to commemorate 100 years of the game. Ruth's last season with the Yanks was 1934. Plus the number font and front logo don't align with each other and were never a uniform option during his playing days in the Bronx. So, I would def be cautious and do your research on any jersey that person is selling. Some details can be overlooked and some are glaring. That is a very good observation. That seller also has a Willie Mays Met jersey, a Thurman Munson Yankee jersey, and a Lou Brock Cardinal jersey with the wrong number fonts. The number font on the Ruth Yankee jersey looks off, as well (too thick); and the sleeve patch does indeed, as you note, depict a season after Ruth's playing career was over. But the Mays Giant jersey doesn't seem to suffer from these problems. The number font is right, and the patch is from 1951, Mays's rookie season. The main problem that I see with it is that the words in "New York" are too close together. The jersey on e-bay gets the number font right, which is not true of a presumably authentically-styled jersey for sale at Custom Throwback Jerseys. Compare both to the number font on what purports to be an actual 1951 Mays jersey on auction at Heritage Auctions. (The listing says "attributed to Willie Mays", which, in auction-speak, means that the item is believed to be authentic, but that no guarantee is being made. However, the lack of the distinctive 1951 sleeve patch is curious.) 15 hours ago, BBTV said: Looks like a poly jersey with the heathered effect - did that even exist back in the day, and if so, did he wear one? 14 hours ago, Carolingian Steamroller said: Most likely a knock off. The number fabric looks off and its definitely a poly fabric with heathered effected as commented above. Honestly, the fabric issue doesn't really bother me. If a modern fabric can be made to look like the actual flannel (as has been done here), then that's alright with me. I care about the design elements. Ultimately, it's the placement of the words "New" and "York" that puts me off this jersey. If that were done better, then I might go for the jersey at the price of $45. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGreenGoWhite Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 17 hours ago, GriffinM6 said: Exactly. Retro2Heritage is my go-to seller for those kind of things. They have official merchandise that's usually a year-or-two past date and they sell it for cheap. Thanks for this, that store has a huge collection. I know of FullMoonJerseys as well, similar stock, but much more obscure players than the seller you mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBagwell16 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Anyone know where I can find the White Sox city connect number font? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnPheitseog Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: That is a very good observation. That seller also has a Willie Mays Met jersey, a Thurman Munson Yankee jersey, and a Lou Brock Cardinal jersey with the wrong number fonts. The number font on the Ruth Yankee jersey looks off, as well (too thick); and the sleeve patch does indeed, as you note, depict a season after Ruth's playing career was over. But the Mays Giant jersey doesn't seem to suffer from these problems. The number font is right, and the patch is from 1951, Mays's rookie season. The main problem that I see with it is that the words in "New York" are too close together. The jersey on e-bay gets the number font right, which is not true of a presumably authentically-styled jersey for sale at Custom Throwback Jerseys. Compare both to the number font on what purports to be an actual 1951 Mays jersey on auction at Heritage Auctions. (The listing says "attributed to Willie Mays", which, in auction-speak, means that the item is believed to be authentic, but that no guarantee is being made. However, the lack of the distinctive 1951 sleeve patch is curious.) Honestly, the fabric issue doesn't really bother me. If a modern fabric can be made to look like the actual flannel (as has been done here), then that's alright with me. I care about the design elements. Ultimately, it's the placement of the words "New" and "York" that puts me off this jersey. If that were done better, then I might go for the jersey at the price of $45. Custom Throwback Jerseys is no good. They make fakes and mix them in with legit jerseys and the owner is a jerk and especially a jerk when called out. Though, I cannot understate the wonders and detailed research of Bill Henderson and his game worn guides. Just the level of detail and research makes it a wonderful resource. https://gamewornguides.com/ 1 Formerly known as DiePerske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, AnPheitseog said: Custom Throwback Jerseys is no good. They make fakes and mix them in with legit jerseys and the owner is a jerk and especially a jerk when called out. Though, I cannot understate the wonders and detailed research of Bill Henderson and his game worn guides. Just the level of detail and research makes it a wonderful resource. https://gamewornguides.com/ Thanks for the warning about Custom Throwback Jerseys. And you are right about the unparalleled utility of Bill Henderson's information. Though the language nerd in me compels me mention that you mean to say "I cannot overstate the wonders", meaning: no matter what superlatives you use, you will not be overstating the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 On 8/9/2022 at 9:56 AM, Carolingian Steamroller said: Looks like bad news for the...Cincinnati Feds family! ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/10/2022 at 3:18 PM, Ferdinand Cesarano said: What do you think of this listing? https://www.ebay.com/itm/374184697265 Fake as all :censored:. You can tell by the sheen on the jersey (the fake throwbacks almost always have that weird shine to them) and the bubbled stitching on the letters. The bubble effect on the stitching is from trying to use a heavy x stitch with thread that’s a heavier weight than the material it’s stitching. The effect always leaves the edges looking too rounded and not clean. Telltale sign in those. On 8/10/2022 at 1:47 PM, GoGreenGoWhite said: Maybe hats are harder to tell because it's pretty easy to spot fake jerseys. Ehh, not really. The actual fakes are pretty easy to spot. What’s more difficult is trying to spot the imposter hats New Era themselves put out and passed them off as US made on field authentics. Basically the last decade of their domestic production was them counterfeiting themselves, in a sense. 2 On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I see Oakland is wearing the Kelly green alts on the road in Houston tonight. Have they worn those on the road before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hormone Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, TBGKon said: I see Oakland is wearing the Kelly green alts on the road in Houston tonight. Have they worn those on the road before? Not sure about this year, but they have in the past. I’m pretty sure the dark green jersey suffered the same fate as the yellow one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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